ARTICLE: Tarkowski charged by FA

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:13 pm

Looks like a potential three match ban on the way

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Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:15 pm

Might as well appeal it.
Won’t do any good though. Stupid.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:16 pm

No surprise. You cannot elbow someone like that. Would have been a red if the ref had seen it. Silly mistake

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:17 pm

Stupid, he’s let the team down there.

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:20 pm

Think it will be upheld so who's going to play centre half ?

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:20 pm

Stupid thing to do, can't argue with it in the slightest. More interesting to see if teams aim to get at him a little bit mentally like Murray evidently did going forward. Time for Long to step up again.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:20 pm

Let's hope Mee is ok to come in.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:21 pm

Inchy wrote:No surprise. You cannot elbow someone like that. Would have been a red if the ref had seen it. Silly mistake

I don't think it would have been red and there was one similar against Brighton recently where the FA took no action. But it was a daft thing to do and I don't expect him to get away with it now.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:23 pm

I think he should pay three months wages to Glenn Murray too.

It is 2017 after all, and digging someone in the ribs is a very, very serious, possibly career-threatening offence. I think it's time we awarded penalties too for the best dives anywhere on the pitch.

Thank goodness Dele Alli and Ashley Young will be able to ply their beautiful trade against us without the interference of someone objecting to their cheating. And if Ben Mee were to tackle them too hard I think we should ban him for a year.

Wan*ers

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:25 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Think it will be upheld so who's going to play centre half ?

Kevin Long of course.

Pimlico_Claret · Post by **Pimlico_Claret** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:26 pm

Do the FA spend all day Monday watching every single challenge in every single game. If so, there would very quickly be no games to watch as most players would be suspended. One good thing though, a lot of people on here will be pleased given some of the posts.

Carport · Post by **Carport** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:38 pm

Let’s not vilify and lambast Tarka too much here going on so out how he’s let the team down. He will know only too well himself how foolish he was and must be feeling gutted inside. Stupid error yes but balance that with the many many games this season when he has done the polar opposite to letting the side down.

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:38 pm

Let's hope we have the same panel that let Lukaku off that double kick at a Brighton defender

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:43 pm

Pimlico_Claret wrote:Do the FA spend all day Monday watching every single challenge in every single game. If so, there would very quickly be no games to watch as most players would be suspended. One good thing though, a lot of people on here will be pleased given some of the posts.

Hardly a surprise considering most highlight shows reviewed it in detail. Bizarre to suggest anyone would be pleased with a decision to ban Tarkowski though - unsurprised perhaps but that’s far from anyone suggesting that they “will be pleased”.

It was stupid of Tarkowski but the most frustrating thing is that had it been spotted, it would likely have been a yellow and therefore no ban.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:43 pm

Kane n Alli should be banned next then, 2 awful challenges @ man city..

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I don't think it would have been red and there was one similar against Brighton recently where the FA took no action. But it was a daft thing to do and I don't expect him to get away with it now.

If the ref wouldn't have sent him off then the ref would be wrong because it was clearly a red card offence

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:45 pm

Both seen though, so the silly rules prevent further action because that would look like the FA were saying a referee made a mistake and that can’t be possible!!

NickBFC · Post by **NickBFC** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:45 pm

Regardless of who else should be banned, Tarkowski has deserved that. Ridiculous decision despite the obvious frustration of his cheating opponent. Definitely a red card incident so he's lucky it didn't immediately cost the team. Needs to learn from it.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:45 pm

'...I don't think it would have been red...'

it would have been red if seen...elbowing in the chest is as serious as striking an opponent!

sadly a deserved ban - and I hope he isn't missed against Spurs, Huddersfield + Liverpool!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:46 pm

Good job we replaced Michael Keane in the summer, we could have ended up short otherwise.

Pimlico_Claret · Post by **Pimlico_Claret** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:47 pm

DCWat wrote:Hardly a surprise considering most highlight shows reviewed it in detail. Bizarre to suggest anyone would be pleased with a decision to ban Tarkowski though - unsurprised perhaps but that’s far from anyone suggesting that they “will be pleased”.

It was stupid of Tarkowski but the most frustrating thing is that had it been spotted, it would likely have been a yellow and therefore no ban.

You know what I am saying. Hopefully if anything good comes out of this, it should mean we will never have to watch Andy "elbow first" Carroll playing ever again,given his modus operandi.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:47 pm

Appeal it, even though we know it will fail. The reason being it makes sure Mee has enough time to come back 100%, if he isn't so now. It also gets us nearer to the transfer window, were we need a new CB anyway - a good time for a new recruit to play while Tarks is out.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:48 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Let's hope Mee is ok to come in.

He's already in... he played on Saturday.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:51 pm

Can't believe people are suggesting that it wasn't a red card offence.

20 years ago... maybe not.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:51 pm

It is more frustrating when the weekends yellows that should have been red are not reviewable.
An incorrect decision is an incorrect decision and should be corrected.
We should have been playing a Spurs team minus Kane and Alli.
Nevertheless Clarets power will see us win.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:53 pm

With Chris Hughton drawing attention to the incident in his post match press conference and every pundit commenting on it inevitable really.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:59 pm

Our poor approach to recruiting centre backs this summer could now have a significant impact. With Tarks and Ward likely to be out for a while, we could have just ONE defender on the bench over the hectic holiday period, assuming no other problems. It's even worse for wingers as we have none for the bench. Very odd for a 100m plus revenue budget.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:04 pm

fidelcastro wrote:He's already in... he played on Saturday.

I must stop believing someone then and any rumours. I was told he had another knock during the game and would be out. If that's not the case, then great.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:05 pm

summitclaret wrote:Our poor approach to recruiting centre backs this summer could now have a significant impact. With Tarks and Ward likely to be out for a while, we could have just ONE defender on the bench over the hectic holiday period, assuming no other problems. It's even worse for wingers as we have none for the bench. Very odd for a 100m plus revenue budget.

Lowton can play Centre Half, but yes, I agree it's far from ideal.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:06 pm

summitclaret wrote:Our poor approach to recruiting centre backs this summer could now have a significant impact. With Tarks and Ward likely to be out for a while, we could have just ONE defender on the bench over the hectic holiday period, assuming no other problems. It's even worse for wingers as we have none for the bench. Very odd for a 100m plus revenue budget.

We don't have many central defenders in the development squad either, which is a bit strange.
i don't know how it works, but could we draft an under 23 year old player in to the squad immediately (if we had one good enough)?

claret59 · Post by **claret59** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:06 pm

There are bad fouls in just about every game but it can still be an awful foul minus the intent for it to be so and this is usually the case. In this case the intent was obvious and could even be described as cowardly. Tarkowski took a calculated gamble that he would get away with it and it partly paid off because the referee is supposedly saying he did not witness it, but of course the camera showed it up all too clearly.

Ilkley claret · Post by **Ilkley claret** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:06 pm

Murray has played him like a piano. Hopefully this will turn out as a positive learning experience for Tarks.
I would expect Murray to be targeted in the home fixture and we get him sent off.
I admire Dyche for taking the moral high ground on such matters but we are paying the price and will continue to do so.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:09 pm

The question needs to be asked as to why Murray isn't being charged with deceiving the referee too dont you think? after all, he kicks Tarks in the first challenge...

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If Murray hadn't so blatantly cheated I dont believe that Tarks would've been so wound up by it. That along with the injustice of the Ramsey dive against Arsenal its no surprise that Tarks had a dig, for which he was wrong to do so, but still. All this retrospective action is all well and good as long as it applies to every team and every player, which it clearly does not.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:19 pm

Tarky looks about 7ft 3 in that still.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:20 pm

Can't see Dyche being too happy about it, will tickets be available to watch him swimming in the very cold river Calder?

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:21 pm

cockneyclaret wrote:Let's hope we have the same panel that let Lukaku off that double kick at a Brighton defender

Going off that tarks would never be banned. How lukaku got away with that is beyond me. Not to worry top 6 clubs get away with this kinda stuff lucky for us.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:24 pm

cockneyclaret wrote:Let's hope we have the same panel that let Lukaku off that double kick at a Brighton defender

Lukaku wasn't charged was he?

Once the FA makes the charge a ban is inevitable.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:28 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Lukaku wasn't charged was he?

Once the FA makes the charge a ban is inevitable.

hence my reference to double standards Tall Paul - Ramsey should have been charged; and debatable for Silva for exaggerating the dive with Pope.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:31 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:hence my reference to double standards Tall Paul - Ramsey should have been charged; and debatable for Silva for exaggerating the dive with Pope.

Agreed.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:31 pm

claretdj wrote:Kane n Alli should be banned next then, 2 awful challenges @ man city..

They can't be because they have already been booked. Ridiculous rule.

Let's not forget our disciplinary record has been very good last few seasons - especially given how much defending we have to do and the amount of cheating going on.

Can't be too harsh on Tarks but he has made a mistake and it was pretty human / normal of him to be very wound up by that cheating 2 hat Murray.

It will have a serious impact on our chance of getting results in next few games given who we are playing but it could be a hell of a lot worse if we were a couple of points from relegation zone.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:33 pm

We'll be fine, Long will slot in as he did when Mee was injured.

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:36 pm

Fair do’s I think. He deliberately elbowed him so it’s a fair cop. He will be gutted I’m sure as he will probably have to wait a while to get his place back due to Kevin long slotting in effortlessly.

It’s not just Murray that needs to be investigated. The “cheating” committee need to look at the other lad of theirs who tried to con a penalty.

I’m becoming increasingly disillusioned with football. It’s almost become non contact, and cheating is rife. There aren’t very many role models in the game - at least the sort of person I would consider to be a role model. It’s full of Nancy boy prima donnas. Trouble is, these sort of players have learned this from the previous generation. You only have to listen to ex players (pundits) explaining how ............ was “entitled” to go down because there was contact. We are lucky as our players, under instruction from our manager I would imagine, have a little more self respect, respect for the game and decent levels of integrity to allow themselves to blatantly cheat in the name of “professionalism”.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:52 pm

No doubts he was wound up but if and when banned I expect him to work just as hard as the rest over Christmas - no time off for bad behaviour. Silly boy, but Murray dodgy as heck.

Heaton's Gloves · Post by **Heaton's Gloves** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:06 pm

Yeah well deserved. Murray was SEVERELY hurt in That VICIOUS challenge! You could tell by the way he fell down clutching his obviously BROKEN ribs! Come on! Really".......I may need to start following rugby instead. Effing cheating SNOWFLAKE. Rant over.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:08 pm

After being mugged for a penalty in both the Arsenal and then this. You can understand his frustration. No excusing at lashing out, its his mistake, but he'll learn from it. Sean Dyche will make sure of that.

northeastclaret · Post by **northeastclaret** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:14 pm

If we get short of centre halves over Xmas I wouldn't be surprised to see Jack Cork or Bardsley in that role , with Lowton full back, Cork started as a centre half didn't he?.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:14 pm

**** happens. I feel sorry for Tarks and it's a big lesson for him.
The only reason Murray isn't being charged is the FA are a bunch of spineless tossers. It was a blatant a dive as Lanzinis and the other muppet from Brighton. The consistency stinks.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:16 pm

Nice chilled xmas for tarky

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:21 pm

Agree with all of that Bobinho.
The game has lost its ways and the rules and application of those rules is so inconsistent it's ridiculous.

Every pundit without exception thought Kane and Alli should have got red cards - and many referred to the potential serious damage that could have happened.

Yet f-uck all happens to either because the ref already gave them a yellow card - even though he got both very wrong.

At the same time the Tarks incident actually got little coverage and nobody would say the challenges were anywhere near as bad as Kane and Alli's.

Doesn't make Tarks challenge ok but the rules are definitely wrong at the moment. If they were changed Tarks would still be banned I think as it is too much of a grey area to judge how hard someone elbowed someone / how hurt they were etc. But at least the ones deserving bans would also get them

wickdkewlclaret · Post by **wickdkewlclaret** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:37 pm

This is pretty gutting. Kane & Ali 2-0 anyone?