£75 million for Van Dijk

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:06 pm

Good grief..

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:07 pm

If that happens should do wonders for Tarks value - provided we extend his contract

MyRightFoot · Post by **MyRightFoot** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:08 pm

Just looking at that myself.. makes me wonder how much realistically we could get for Tarky or mee if god forbid someone comes in for them! 50 mill??

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:10 pm

So what value for a manager who can do it without paying ridiculous transfers.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:10 pm

That’s just massively inflated the market again.

Wokingclaret · Post by **Wokingclaret** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:11 pm

Matter not, they still need a keeper!

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:13 pm

He was the best central defender in the league last year, was incredible against us on the Turf.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:13 pm

Debut at Turf Moor on New Years Day?

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:14 pm

Good business for Southampton since he never appeared to be giving his all since the deal fell through last summer.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:14 pm

KRBFC wrote:He was the best central defender in the league last year, was incredible against us on the Turf.

Agreed, I hadn't seen much of him prior to that but he was unbelievable that day. Won every header and looked like Southampton's best attacker.

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:14 pm

Having watched him live several times I think he is good.

But that’s a massive increase in the market, Tarks has just gone to 50 million.

You think it’s going to bust year after year but no it keeps going up and surprising us.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:14 pm

He was outstanding last year, but he hasn't been ripping up flags since he came back in this season.
Nothing against him so I hope he can live up to it.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:14 pm

Wonder if he will suffer the same condition as previous defenders?

Turn rubbish overnight now he's signed for them?

ten bellies · Post by **ten bellies** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:17 pm

It's one thing signing the player, another trying to best utilise him in a team that struggles to defend. Ask Michael Keane.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:17 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Wonder if he will suffer the same condition as previous defenders?

Turn rubbish overnight now he's signed for them?

Probably, although it's not a surprise with Jordan Henderson in front of the back four and Mignolet behind.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:17 pm

Celtic have done well out of him.Signed for £2.5m...they've had £13m from Soton incl. add ons so far, with now another £7.5m to come. Something like £18m profit...vast in Scottish football.

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:24 pm

Liverpool building a team to challenge next year?
That's salah,Keita from RB Leipzig and now van dijk. What a team.

Iloveyoubrady · Post by **Iloveyoubrady** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:24 pm

He is a very valuable cb because he is good with his feet - fashionable. Like Tarks and Keane are. Mee is never going to worth as much because he is more of an old fashioned defender.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:46 pm

Tarks around the £30million mark according to this article

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/footb ... nited-news

Claret&Green · Post by **Claret&Green** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:48 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Debut at Turf Moor on New Years Day?

According to BBC he won't be eligible as registration can't go through until 2/1/18 coz of bank holiday.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:01 pm

Claret&Green wrote:According to BBC he won't be eligible as registration can't go through until 2/1/18 coz of bank holiday.

I'm sure they'll find a way round it. No one likes us.....we don't care.

MrTopTier · Post by **MrTopTier** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:30 pm

Celtic have done well out of him.Signed for £2.5m...they've had £13m from Soton incl. add ons so far, with now another £7.5m to come. Something like £18m profit...vast in Scottish football.

Never mind Celtic doing well out of it, Southampton turned down £60m for him in the Summer, half a distinctively average season later, they get £75 million for him.

Since 2014 Liverpool have paid over £168.5 Million in transfer fees to Southampton.

Shore claret · Post by **Shore claret** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:31 pm

Good deal for Southampton, wonder where they plan to spend the money.
Personally think it's ludicrous Liverpool will be half the team when coutinho goes .

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:39 pm

KRBFC wrote:He was the best central defender in the league last year, was incredible against us on the Turf.

And they lost...

Edit
And he gained a rating of 7 from Sky Sports against Man of the Match Ben Mee who rated an 8.

As the saying goes 'He's good, but he ain't that good'

LordBob · Post by **LordBob** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 8:51 pm

Is this the most expensive Van Dyke ever sold and where does it rank amongst other Dutch masters?

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:02 pm

Hertz Van Hire is a steal at a fraction of that for a season long loan

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:04 pm

JohnMac wrote:And they lost...

Edit
And he gained a rating of 7 from Sky Sports against Man of the Match Ben Mee who rated an 8.

As the saying goes 'He's good, but he ain't that good'

Must be pants then if he only got a 7 in one game

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:05 pm

£250M for our pair?

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:10 pm

KRBFC wrote:Must be pants then if he only got a 7 in one game

Only jesting with you old bean but £75m for a petulant child who throws his toys out of the pram is fantastic business for Southampton.

I doubt their Manager will see much of it though as I have a feeling he isvon borrowed time already.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:46 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Debut at Turf Moor on New Years Day?

It won't - players can't sign until 1st Jan and they can't play for 24 hours after signing. They would be able to play him, I think, if they signed him on loan, but not permanently.

A lot of money for a centre half, but he's an outstanding defender.

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:06 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Debut at Turf Moor on New Years Day?

Though he will join the club on 1 January, Van Dijk will not be able to register as a player until 2 January so will not be available for Liverpool's trip to Burnley on Monday.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:10 pm

Stupid money but alas it's the going rate. I rate him highly.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:29 pm

He's good, but he ain't Ben Mee.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:44 pm

Van Dijk is a complete footballer. Mee isn't.
Yet.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:11 pm

There's everybody's excuse for not signing anyone then, ridiculous amount of money

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:18 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:Matter not, they still need a keeper!

We have a spare one they can have for £50m+

COBBLE · Post by **COBBLE** » Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:21 pm

[quote="evensteadiereddie"]Van Dijk is a complete footballer. Mee isn't.

Mee is the best at what Mee does. I don't know anyone else who could do what he does for our team so I'd say he's priceless.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:17 am

"Mee is never going to worth as much because he is more of an old fashioned defender."

In that case, he's welcome to play the rest of his career with us as far as I'm concerned.

City fan · Post by **City fan** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:43 am

On paper Liverpool are building a great side although I wonder of Coutinho will now be sold? Even if they do, they are building a good side

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:01 am

Think he’s a great player personally.

Ben Mee is a great defender but very limited football wise.

Sheedyclaret · Post by **Sheedyclaret** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 9:20 am

He’s a great defender but this signing probably signals the end of one of there best attackers don’t think they would of spent 75m if they were not expecting a influx of cash from the Coutinho sale..

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 11:29 am

It's a bloody goalkeeper they need as both of their keepers are crap..

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:09 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:Think he’s a great player personally.

Ben Mee is a great defender but very limited football wise.

What does that actually mean? Surely defending is a massive part of the game.

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:22 pm

Defending is of course a huge part of the game but the defenders that are stars and play internationally and for the bigger clubs are generally very good with the ball at their feet. This is where Mee is limited as to be be quite frank he isn’t that good with the ball.

Ben Mee outstanding, brave defender but his distribution is bang average at best.

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:30 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:Defending is of course a huge part of the game but the defenders that are stars and play internationally and for the bigger clubs are generally very good with the ball at their feet. This is where Mee is limited as to be be quite frank he isn’t that good with the ball.

Ben Mee outstanding, brave defender but his distribution is bang average at best.

Ben Mee’s pass completion is 76.1% this season which is probable better than average.

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:35 pm

That’s as maybe but the most of those passes will be 5-10 yards to either side of him.

The likes of Van Dijk, Keane and Tarkowski are more dynamic than that. They are very comfortable with the ball.

BFCmaj · Post by **BFCmaj** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:37 pm

According to the stats here https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/184/Sho ... nd-Burnley" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There’s only Defour, Cork and Hendrick with a better pass success this season.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:42 pm

He comes from good stock. His Grandad Dick was a great sweeper.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:46 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:Matter not, they still need a keeper!

Maybe we could lend them Tom when fit to get some match practice

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 12:47 pm

Statistics don’t always show the true picture.