James McLean

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:20 pm

If SD wants him fair enough. If he fits the team fair enough. If he gives everything to the cause fair enough.

I will keep most of my ‘other’ thoughts to myself. He wouldnt like them. And after reading a few comments above, quite a few of you won’t either.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:24 pm

bobinho wrote:If SD wants him fair enough. If he fits the team fair enough. If he gives everything to the cause fair enough.

I will keep most of my ‘other’ thoughts to myself. He wouldnt like them. And after reading a few comments above, quite a few of you won’t either.

Fair enough...

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:25 pm

I’ve heard the Pardew hates him for not wearing a Poppy and wants shut.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:25 pm

When I’ve seen him play looks like an angry man running round , never a decent player, more yellow cards than tackles.

Wexford_Claret · Post by **Wexford_Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:26 pm

Pearcey wrote:I’ve heard the Pardew hates him for not wearing a Poppy and wants shut.

If that’s true Pardew’s an even crapper manager than I thought.

Lord Rothbury · Post by **Lord Rothbury** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:30 pm

Not good enough and appears to be a rather unpleasant young man .

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:31 pm

He clearly has s conscience as he makes a lot of charitable donations. Probably fits our type of character profile.

Wexford_Claret · Post by **Wexford_Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:37 pm

Lord Rothbury wrote:Not good enough and appears to be a rather unpleasant young man

How? As Blackrod states, he donates a lot to charity, especially in his home town of Derry.

The only evidence I can see for him being an unpleasant man is his agression on the football pitch, and God help us if that’s become a reason not to sign a player.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:38 pm

SANDAL WEARING LIBERALS

THE POPPY IS A SIGNAL OF OUR BRAVERY AROUND THE GLOBE! IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST WE WILL NOT SIGN THIS MAN!

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:40 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:SANDAL WEARING LIBERALS

THE POPPY IS A SIGNAL OF OUR BRAVERY AROUND THE GLOBE! IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST WE WILL NOT SIGN THIS MAN!

Not a bad attempt C&J

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:42 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:SANDAL WEARING LIBERALS

THE POPPY IS A SIGNAL OF OUR BRAVERY AROUND THE GLOBE! IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST WE WILL NOT SIGN THIS MAN!

Bo!!ox.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:43 pm

For me the only recruitment criteria is whether someone wears a poppy and has a “Help for Heroes” car sticker on their back windscreen.

Everything else pales into insignificance.

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:44 pm

agreenwood wrote:For me the only recruitment criteria is whether someone wears a poppy and has a “Help for Heroes” car sticker on their back windscreen.

Everything else pales into insignificance.

I have a "Help for Herpes" sticker in the back of my car.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:44 pm

tim_noone wrote:Bo!!ox.

Gone over your head that one tim.

EarbyClaret · Post by **EarbyClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:47 pm

This would make perfect sense if true. We looked exceptional up until Brady's injury at Leicester and it's been a bit of a struggle since. A natural wide-left player for the rest of the season who will link-up well with Ward (when fit) will hopefully get us back to the level of performance we saw in October and November.

As for any non-footballing issues no-one is more thorough than Dyche when assessing a player's character so there will be no doubt he's done is homework if we are serious about signing him.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:54 pm

Lord Rothbury wrote:Not good enough and appears to be a rather unpleasant young man .

Why is he unpleasant?

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:59 pm

Surprised how important his feelings on poppys are on here.
I always admire anyone who is honest and open.
Surely Joey Barton had much bigger issues than this guy???

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:59 pm

Sorry lads not ITK just fishing people needed cheering up hope that did it for you? Thoughts?

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:04 pm

CFS wrote:Signed 3.5 yr deal get in!! Sort of signing we need to kick on. We'll done bfc.

Well know transfer troller.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:08 pm

KRBFC wrote:I can confirm that the OP and his pals are fishing again

And how can you confirm this ?

Isn't gospel but heard it from someone very close to someone at the club earlier that he is our target.

Lord Rothbury · Post by **Lord Rothbury** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:12 pm

Wexford_Claret wrote:How? As Blackrod states, he donates a lot to charity, especially in his home town of Derry.

The only evidence I can see for him being an unpleasant man is his agression on the football pitch, and God help us if that’s become a reason not to sign a player.

Is that Londonderry we are talking about .

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:15 pm

jdrobbo wrote:Always liked him. Controversial or not, he is a human being and he has a choice. I love his style of play and I honestly can't think of a better fit for a Dyche player at our sort of price level right now. Would be a terrific signing and Burnley fans would love him.

Pretty accurate summary.

I don't like his stance regarding poppies. He has his opinons, which being from a culturally different world to me, I cannot agree with. They're his and he's entitled to them. Everywhere he goes in the UK those issues will follow him.

Aside from that, he's a cracking player who gives everything. Exactly what we are all about.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:17 pm

Blackrod wrote:Does he stand still for the minutes silence on Rememberance Day ?

No. He does the riverdance for the full 60 seconds.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:18 pm

Don't know why but he always remind me of Paul Smith for those that remember him.

I think his little poppy protest shows a lack of understanding and knowledge of history, but knowing Derry's history it is not a protest that surprises me. He considerrs it political.... I personnally don't. The IRA supported Hitler, Hitler was using the troubles for no other reason than to destabalise Britain (same as he did with India/Pakistan) promised them independence to garner support.... people still believe it was their best bet, ignoring the dominatiion they imposed even on their allies. Its a view I wholeheartedly disagree with but I'd still welcome him in a Claret and Blue shirt

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:25 pm

The troubles and Hitler were not linked in any way. The troubles started in 1968/9

superdimitri · Post by **superdimitri** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:29 pm

Main worry is his attitude but if Dyche doesn't find a problem with it then so be it.

Just a bit strange that he's so active in his political beliefs when it comes to football. It's a bit much flashing his tattoo of free Derry corner isn't it? Very bizarre.

Pulis gave him a new contract in September until 2019 with an option of another year. I hope we don't overspend.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:38 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:SANDAL WEARING LIBERALS

THE POPPY IS A SIGNAL OF OUR BRAVERY AROUND THE GLOBE! IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST WE WILL NOT SIGN THIS MAN!

you gave yourself away by using caps lock, might as well have used a load of gurning emojis.

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:40 pm

elwaclaret wrote:Don't know why but he always remind me of Paul Smith for those that remember him.

I think his little poppy protest shows a lack of understanding and knowledge of history, but knowing Derry's history it is not a protest that surprises me. He considerrs it political.... I personnally don't. The IRA supported Hitler, Hitler was using the troubles for no other reason than to destabalise Britain (same as he did with India/Pakistan) promised them independence to garner support.... people still believe it was their best bet, ignoring the dominatiion they imposed even on their allies. Its a view I wholeheartedly disagree with but I'd still welcome him in a Claret and Blue shirt

Erm, his knowledge of what happened to the unarmed civilians shot by British soldiers is quite possibly better than most on here.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:43 pm

Blackrod wrote:Does he stand still for the minutes silence on Rememberance Day ?

No, haven't you seen him singing "Diddly, diddly dee" and Riverdancing?

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:51 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:The troubles and Hitler were not linked in any way. The troubles started in 1968/9

Would be like saying the troubles in Middle East started in 1967.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:56 pm

His stats are really poor but Dyche usually improves players. I'd rather we sign someone less hot headed though if I'm being honest, always has a reckless challenge in him.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:58 pm

Not at all. I am well aware of the history of problems in Ireland ." The troubles " is an expression used to describe a very particular period.

LongsideFacingUp · Post by **LongsideFacingUp** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 4:58 pm

ClaretTony wrote:And there was me thinking people fought to give us the freedom to be able to make our own decisions, one of which is to choose whether or not to wear a poppy. I find it sad that anyone still won't approve of a player who exercises his right to make such a decision.

Bizarre. Having the right to disrespect the people who fought and died for freedom does not mean that it is inherently good to do so.

Muddled thinking. I find it sad that so many people liked this.

otto1959 · Post by **otto1959** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:00 pm

Blackrod wrote:He clearly has s conscience as he makes a lot of charitable donations. Probably fits our type of character profile.

Where do his donations go to. It's a huge no from me.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:01 pm

elwaclaret wrote:....Hitler was using the troubles for no other reason than to destabalise Britain....

Hitler must have had a time machine hidden in his bunker then since the 'troubles' didn't start until the late sixties.

Wexford_Claret · Post by **Wexford_Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:04 pm

Lord Rothbury wrote:Is that Londonderry we are talking about .

No.

Wexford_Claret · Post by **Wexford_Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:05 pm

elwaclaret wrote:Don't know why but he always remind me of Paul Smith for those that remember him.

I think his little poppy protest shows a lack of understanding and knowledge of history, but knowing Derry's history it is not a protest that surprises me. He considerrs it political.... I personnally don't. The IRA supported Hitler, Hitler was using the troubles for no other reason than to destabalise Britain (same as he did with India/Pakistan) promised them independence to garner support.... people still believe it was their best bet, ignoring the dominatiion they imposed even on their allies. Its a view I wholeheartedly disagree with but I'd still welcome him in a Claret and Blue shirt

If anyone’s showing political ignorance it’s you.

1. The IRA of the 1930’s and 1940’s were split down the middle over their opinion on Hitler. Some thought they should side with him as he posed a threat to Britain. Some IRA Volunteers were disgusted by his policy and fought him in Europe- some even joined the British Army to fight the Nazis.
2. The Troubles are generally considered to have started after the Battle of the Bogside in 1968- twenty three years after Hitler’s death. It started because of Unionist attacks at Nationalist civil rights marches. The Provisional IRA (the most active republican organisation during the Troubles) wasn’t formed until 1969. It was quite different to the IRA of the 1940’s.

You are confusing different organisations, eras and historical events.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:08 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:The troubles and Hitler were not linked in any way. The troubles started in 1968/9

You might want to consider 1916 ? The treatment of the Irish people prior to this was not good.

turbo5 · Post by **turbo5** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:10 pm

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but there is a time and a place to express it. Not by refusing to wear a poppy in a country which is very proud of our armed services past and present.
We have a lot of ex forces and military background families in Burnley and I personally think this would be a very bad move for a club like Burnley. I predict some would be returning their season tickets or not renewing them if we signed him.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:12 pm

LongsideFacingUp wrote:Bizarre. Having the right to disrespect the people who fought and died for freedom does not mean that it is inherently good to do so.

Muddled thinking. I find it sad that so many people liked this.

He's not disrespecting anyone - he's making his own choice. If you can't respect that, it says more about you.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:14 pm

I respect him for remaining strong and not giving in under pressure despite what others think he should do with his life. Good on the lad

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:16 pm

turbo5 wrote:Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but there is a time and a place to express it. Not by refusing to wear a poppy in a country which is very proud of our armed services past and present.
We have a lot of ex forces and military background families in Burnley and I personally think this would be a very bad move for a club like Burnley. I predict some would be returning their season tickets or not renewing them if we signed him.

I think this might be the what is known as a "snowflake". Can someone please confirm?

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:17 pm

turbo5 wrote:Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but there is a time and a place to express it. Not by refusing to wear a poppy in a country which is very proud of our armed services past and present.
We have a lot of ex forces and military background families in Burnley and I personally think this would be a very bad move for a club like Burnley. I predict some would be returning their season tickets or not renewing them if we signed him.

Oh do grow up. A poppy forced on someone is a meaningless one

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:19 pm

people arguing about poppies instead of if he's actually good enough

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:21 pm

Not the type of player we should be looking at. We have a squad full of "workers" we should be looking to add a bit of technical ability and someone that will give us a platform to attack from.

LongsideFacingUp · Post by **LongsideFacingUp** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:29 pm

ClaretTony wrote:He's not disrespecting anyone - he's making his own choice. If you can't respect that, it says more about you.

Turning his back during the playing of our national anthem might be considered slightly disrespectful.

He's entitled to do what he wants by the way.

The irony is that you have no problems with McClean exercising his right to disrespect the fallen, yet you're offended by those who exercise their right to criticise him for it.

Again, muddled thinking.

turbo5 · Post by **turbo5** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:30 pm

ZizkovClaret wrote:Oh do grow up. A poppy forced on someone is a meaningless one

I express an opinion and you tell me to grow up because you disagree !! who needs to grow up ?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:36 pm

A bit of hypocrisy from those who have an issue with him not wearing a poppy.

I suspect you were all quite happy that we previously signed someone who had gone to prison for stubbing a cigar in someones eye!

What's worse?

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:36 pm

turbo5 wrote:I express an opinion and you tell me to grow up because you disagree !! who needs to grow up ?

I was showing your opinion the same respect you seem to show to people who disagree with you

ŽižkovClaret · Post by **ŽižkovClaret** » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:37 pm

Spijed wrote:A bit of hypocrisy from those who have an issue with him not wearing a poppy.

I suspect you were all quite happy that we previously signed someone who had gone to prison for stubbing a cigar in someones eye!

What's worse?

I mean, im pretty sure it was the kicking outside a McDonalds he actually got sent down for, but yeah, fair point