If Burnley was a two club town, would there be trouble ?

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:10 pm

Looking at how Manchester is, Bristol, Sheffield etc are ( OK they are bigger ) but how Liverpool and Everton get on; what would happen if the east of Burnley, Nelson etc followed Burnley United, and us more civilised lot in the West of the town, Padiham, Hapton etc supported Burnley.
I think there would be a little bit of trouble as per the old days when Duke bar and Accy Rd had regular fisticuffs but I dont think it would be as bad as Sheffield for example.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:14 pm

You're already stoking up trouble by claiming to be more civilised than us Nelsoners. I'll kick your ******* head in you ****.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:15 pm

I'm not supporting any club with United in its name.

We'd have Colne on our side, so there would be tons of aggro.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:17 pm

OK then Burnley Academics........oh bugger another Brexit excuse, Burnley Weavers then.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:21 pm

Of course there would. Burnley isn't exactly a town known for it's intelligent population.And Stupid people tend to like hitting things, including other people.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:21 pm

Burnley & Nelson & Colne Albion

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:21 pm

Accy road and stoops turn up and it’s all over...

There absolutely definately WOULD be bother. No question. We’re a one club town and STILL we smash the place when things don’t go our way. We’re burnley. We’d start a fight in an empty house!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:25 pm

bobinho wrote: We’d start a fight in an empty house!

Only because there were no beer or drugs left.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:33 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Of course there would. Burnley isn't exactly a town known for it's intelligent population.And Stupid people tend to like hitting things, including other people.

Once I've looked up what some of the longer words in that statement means Ill be round with my baseball bat to either play baseball with a great guy or hand it to you to hit somebody.

bartons baggage · Post by **bartons baggage** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:43 pm

Are there any towns in England that have two professional football teams?
I'd hate the thought of another pro team in Burnley, there can be only one.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:48 pm

bartons baggage wrote:Are there any towns in England that have two professional football teams?
I'd hate the thought of another pro team in Burnley, there can be only one.

Lets not get to deep its hypothetical

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:49 pm

It would probably get quite 'tasty' at times if Padiham were a successful club.

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bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:53 pm

Dazzler wrote:It would probably get quite 'tasty' at times if Padiham were a successful club.

The successful club in Padiham is Molly Rigby's. I don't think the suicide squad would ever live it down if the Mollys did them.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:54 pm

bartons baggage wrote:Are there any towns in England that have two professional football teams?
I'd hate the thought of another pro team in Burnley, there can be only one.

The 12 miles that cover Burnley, Accy and Blackburn could be a record for the closest area for three league clubs.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:03 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:The 12 miles that cover Burnley, Accy and Blackburn could be a record for the closest area for three league clubs.

Bolton, Bury and Rochdale must be similar. Although Bolton moving to Horwich has moved them a bit further away.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:04 pm

Fulham,QPR and Chelsea grounds are within 5 miles of one another.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:04 pm

Once you weren't allowed two clubs from the same town in the league hence the demise of Blackburn Olympic - despite winning The FA cup before Rovers their inability to join The Football League because of the one team per town rule led to them folding.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:06 pm

bfcjg wrote:how Liverpool and Everton get on.

It is a myth mainly expounded in the media that Liverpool and Everton is the friendly derby. They fight in lumps in Stanley park, a lot of them really hate the other clubs fans. Don't believe the hype.

As for the Burnley part of the question.... I have been on more than one ground where there has been serious danger on Clarets turning on other Clarets before, during and after games - and on one occasion all three together; in the days when at least half our following were just there for a battle.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:11 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Once you weren't allowed two clubs from the same town in the league hence the demise of Blackburn Olympic - despite winning The FA cup before Rovers their inability to join The Football League because of the one team per town rule led to them folding.

We are moving away from the trouble bit. If I am browsing continental cheeses in the chiller counter of Aldi resplendent in my Burnley top of Claret and blue would an oik from the East side of Burnley resplendent in his top of Blue and claret threaten and abuse me and mock my choice of Brie because I am outward looking as opposed to his choice of Burnley weavers FC (or whatever) and a Lancashire crumbly ?

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:15 pm

There would definitely be trouble if there were two teams as it'd just make it more convenient for the empty heads to kick off. I also second what Elwa says about the Merseyside derby, I've got a couple of Evertonian mates and there's real hatred for Liverpool. I'm not sure if it's slightly one way though as I always feel Everton have got a monkey on their back given they've been in Liverpool's shadow for so long.

LoveCurryPies · Post by **LoveCurryPies** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:17 pm

There are 2 great teams in Burnley...

Burnley first team and Burnley Under 23’s.

Dyched · Post by **Dyched** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:18 pm

Hating a rival is completely different to the utter **** that fight.

I dont like Blackburn but would happily have a friendly pint with their fans if we were playing them. It's the same for city, united, liverpool etc.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:38 pm

bfcjg wrote:We are moving away from the trouble bit. If I am browsing continental cheeses in the chiller counter of Aldi resplendent in my Burnley top of Claret and blue would an oik from the East side of Burnley resplendent in his top of Blue and claret threaten and abuse me and mock my choice of Brie because I am outward looking as opposed to his choice of Burnley weavers FC (or whatever) and a Lancashire crumbly ?

******* hell, you're claiming to like more sophisticated cheeses now are you? If I saw you in an Aldi, I'd slap you with my Kraft cheese slice.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:42 pm

Theres trouble every weekend in pubs around Burnley. If we had two teams it would only be worse.

There were battles every week in the sunday league ffs!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:45 pm

Our hooligan firm would be called the Euthanasia Squad.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:06 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Our hooligan firm would be called the Euthanasia Squad.

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Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:14 pm

It doesn't have the same menacing ring to it but our calling cards would simply just have... 'You've just been assisted by the Burnley & Nelson & Colne Albion EU Squad' on them.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:26 pm

Ours would read " has you recycling been missed this fortnight ? let us know on westBurnley.com and we will drop our latte and e-mail the council for you. GRRRRRR

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:33 pm

Dazzler wrote:Fulham,QPR and Chelsea grounds are within 5 miles of one another.

My goodness your geography and football ground knowledge is unequivocal.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:41 pm

Dazzler wrote:
Fulham,QPR and Chelsea grounds are within 5 miles of one another.
Maybe, but their owners originated thousands of miles from the ground. back to the Op would there be trouble in Burnley on Derby day ?

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:58 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:******* hell, you're claiming to like more sophisticated cheeses now are you? If I saw you in an Aldi, I'd slap you with my Kraft cheese slice.

And as a fellow Nelsoner, I’d be right behind you with my foil wrapped cheese triangle (after I’d seen what offers were on in the middle aisle)

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:17 am

bfcjg wrote:Dazzler wrote:
Fulham,QPR and Chelsea grounds are within 5 miles of one another.
Maybe, but their owners originated thousands of miles from the ground. back to the Op would there be trouble in Burnley on Derby day ?

Has brentford been re located?

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:32 am

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Our hooligan firm would be called the Euthanasia Squad.

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Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:01 am

tim_noone wrote:Has brentford been re located?

No

I was just naming 3 grounds off top of my head that I knew were within 5 miles of one another.I was thinking Brentford is not too far from each of those 3.
If you include Brentford that goes up to about 6 or 7 miles.

Happy now Tim ?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:16 am

Naming three off top of my head Chelsea qpr and brentford 5 miles. If you include Fulham 6ish I'm happy.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:30 am

tim_noone wrote:Naming three off top of my head Chelsea qpr and brentford 5 miles. If you include Fulham 6ish I'm happy.

Walking distances

Chelsea - QPR 3.1miles
Chelsea - Fulham 1.6 miles
Fulham -QPR 1.5 miles

Brentford - Chelsea 5.6 miles
Brentford - Fulham 4.7 miles
Brentford - QPR 4.2 miles

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:40 am

Dazzler wrote:Walking distances

Chelsea - QPR 3.1miles
Chelsea - Fulham 1.6 miles
Fulham -QPR 1.5 miles

Brentford - Chelsea 5.6 miles
Brentford - Fulham 4.7 miles
Brentford - QPR 4.2 miles

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:48 am

tim_noone wrote:

Oh good,,Now you're happy

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:50 am

Dazzler wrote:Oh good,,Now you're happy

I am thank you very much.

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:07 am

Considering the percentage of canal swimming violent backwards against normal people. I'd strongly agree. That said only as much trouble as if the next town of cotton millers had two clubs.

A high percentage of the local population has come from a working class background for centuries . When working class meant barely surviving, uneducated and sending the kids to work at 4 .

cold claret · Post by **cold claret** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:47 am

bfcjg wrote:Looking at how Manchester is, Bristol, Sheffield etc are ( OK they are bigger ) but how Liverpool and Everton get on; what would happen if the east of Burnley, Nelson etc followed Burnley United, and us more civilised lot in the West of the town, Padiham, Hapton etc supported Burnley.
I think there would be a little bit of trouble as per the old days when Duke bar and Accy Rd had regular fisticuffs but I dont think it would be as bad as Sheffield for example.

Duke Bar would have taken on anybody in the old days,Especially if we met down the Circ

.When the Duke Bar riots were on we got help from the rest of Burnley.

Remeber when we used to go to the old Burnley Boys club on Colne rd in the in the late 70s as teenagers.Duke Bar lads teamed up with Stoneyholme lads to take on the Trafalgar Flats mob a right set to.I00s of wild teenagers on the rampage.Jack Bottomley was the boss at boys club then he banned loads of us fer a few months.Mad days back then

.Not sure about Liverpool and Everton being such pals as Everton lost the Chance to play in Europe after English teams got banned after what happend at the Hysel Stadium.They then stopped being friends

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:41 am

cold claret wrote:Duke Bar would have taken on anybody in the old days,Especially if we met down the Circ .When the Duke Bar riots were on we got help from the rest of Burnley.

Remeber when we used to go to the old Burnley Boys club on Colne rd in the in the late 70s as teenagers.Duke Bar lads teamed up with Stoneyholme lads to take on the Trafalgar Flats mob a right set to.I00s of wild teenagers on the rampage.Jack Bottomley was the boss at boys club then he banned loads of us fer a few months.Mad days back then
.Not sure about Liverpool and Everton being such pals as Everton lost the Chance to play in Europe after English teams got banned after what happend at the Hysel Stadium.They then stopped being friends

Everton did qualify for Europe and couldn't enter cos of Liverpool. Everton were flying at the time.Jack Bottomley great guy!

cold claret · Post by **cold claret** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:05 am

tim_noone wrote:Everton did qualify for Europe and couldn't enter cos of Liverpool. Everton were flying at the time.Jack Bottomley great guy!

Jack was a sound bloke.He helped a lot of the kids.The Burnley Boys Club was a special place back then.

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:14 am

[quote="cold claret"]Duke Bar would have taken on anybody in the old days,Especially if we met down the Circ

.When the Duke Bar riots were on we got help from the rest of Burn leh [/quote

I see you haven't broken the mould. Tell me how is the canal water these days up Duke Bar?

BarstewardsEnquiry · Post by **BarstewardsEnquiry** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:18 am

Would the fans from East Burnley (Nelson, Brierfield) side be classed as clampets and dingles?

cold claret · Post by **cold claret** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:23 am

We used to swim in the cut years ago it was filthy but did us no harm.What you mean broken the mould`?

Bfcboyo · Post by **Bfcboyo** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:25 am

cold claret wrote:We used to swim in the cut years ago it was filthy but did us no harm.What you mean broken the mould`?

Good one!

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:32 am

Dazzler wrote:Fulham,QPR and Chelsea grounds are within 5 miles of one another.

Yes but they are city clubs like Liverpool / Everton etc.
Wasn't the question being raised whether there were 3 town teams so close as Burnley, Accy and Blackburn?
I would think that Bury, Rochdale and Oldham stadiums might be closer, (with Ewood being almost at Darwen, and Boundary Park being at the Bury / Rochdale extremity of Oldham.)

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:41 am

nil_desperandum wrote:Wasn't the question being raised whether there were 3 town teams so close as Burnley, Accy and Blackburn?

No

The 12 miles that cover Burnley, Accy and Blackburn could be a record for the closest area for three league clubs.