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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:44 pm

We are standing still?

How the **** are us being seventh in the league and in no danger of relegation is us standing still?
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:44 pm

No way am I saying the winless run is down to Jeff Hendick.
What I am saying is his performances have been below par.
He is the link between midfield and attack, yet has contributed to very little in the final 3rd.

Goals change and win matches, our inability to do that regularly of late is putting us under pressure and has started to effect us picking up wins. So the roles of the players tasked with doing this need questioning.

If we were losing 5-4 every week, then the defence would be subject to questioning regarding improvement.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:53 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:We are standing still?

How the **** are us being seventh in the league and in no danger of relegation is us standing still?
I wasn't saying we as a club are standing still, it was an expression used to explain why fans always look for better options.

But winless in 7 and struggling to create chances for a while could be classed as standing still if you desired.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:59 pm

Yeah, but not if you look at our progression over a period of months, rather than in a tough period of games.

Can Jeff play better? Sure he can

But it does seem to be that he's being blamed for a team that was doing fantastically not doing as well, whilst missing Brady, Ward, Wood and Arfield.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:05 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:Yeah, but not if you look at our progression over a period of months, rather than in a tough period of games.

Can Jeff play better? Sure he can

But it does seem to be that he's being blamed for a team that was doing fantastically not doing as well, whilst missing Brady, Ward, Wood and Arfield.
Look at his season ratings on here. Take away Spices 9s for Hendrick every week and he would be under 6 at the bottom of the list. A consistent source of info over a long period. Not just a few bad games.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:12 pm

I don't think Spice gives "9" every week for anyone, let alone Jeff. What he does is constantly point out to people what jeff does well for us while acknowledging what he's struggling with.

He offers is a third CM when we haven't got the ball, and that is his main role. If we get a No 10 who doesn't offer as much defensively as Jeff, then we might well score more goals, but we also might concede more as well.

As our entire team is set up not to concede, the choice there is between Jeff and Arfield, whose not fit at the moment, and is needed on the wing.

Next game, Arfield might be fit, and GK might be more familiar with the wide role, or he might try Barnes. But he'll probably stick with Jeff, because the team has massively overperformed this year, with Jeff being an integral point of that.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by claretspice » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:17 pm

MACCA wrote: He is the link between midfield and attack, yet has contributed to very little in the final 3rd.

Goals change and win matches, our inability to do that regularly of late is putting us under pressure and has started to effect us picking up wins. So the roles of the players tasked with doing this need questioning.
But again, I'm not sure Dyche would agree with you. I'm not sure Hendrick is "the" link between attack and midfield and in many respects our full backs have a greater role in creating chances than Hendrick does. He's certainly charged with being closest to the striker when we're on the back foot, and so he's probably the man in support on the counter attack. But when we build attacks through the units Hendrick's role increasingly tends to be to back the play up behind at least one of Cork and Defour and he's rarely more advanced than the wide players.

That is by design. We attack as a unit and defend as a unit. If we had a "number 10" who wasnt contributing defensively and we were conceding lots of goals, I'm confident Dyche would be as concerned about rectifying that issue at number 10 as with looking at his back 4 or 5.

There's an interesting side issue developing on our "progression". The idea that after a blip of 7 games anyone could suggest that without immediate recruitment we'd be going backwards or standing still is frankly baffling, and the desire for quick fixes is part of the problem we now face. We are where we are partly because so many of our players have improved. Hendrick is one of those and I think hes been doing fine (that's about a 7 out of 10 by the way - some proper petulance in suggesting I'm giving him 9 every week!) - but he can improve and we should be looking to get more from him. There's no need to replace him until we're convinced we cant improve him and we are a million miles from there yet. We're also still transitioning as a team to a new system - the arrival of Nkoudou and the pursuit in two windows of Lennon shows we want more pace out wide and that will undoubtedly help us become a more fluid unit andthat in turn will help Hendrick spend more time on the ball with Claret shirts ahead of him which will in turn help us get more from him.

Patience is rare in football, But it don't half help.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by superdimitri » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:24 pm

So that explains why we are more defensively robust when we play 442. I think its simple, he is a passenger and has been for some time. He needs replacing fast and since we need more squad depth there anyway, I don't see any harm signing a more creative outlet.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:25 pm

Spot on Spice.

We're not really doing anything different. As SD says, it's fine margins and we've been the wrong side of them in the last few games, but in the first 17 or so we were usually on the right side. It was never likely to continue all season.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by claretspice » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:27 pm

superdimitri wrote:So that explains why we are more defensively robust when we play 442. I think its simple, he is a passenger and has been for some time. He needs replacing fast and since we need more squad depth there anyway, I don't see any harm signing a more creative outlet.
More defensively robust when we play 442? Have you checked our defensive record this season?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:37 pm

99% of the arguments on here fall apart when anyone says

"you know that thing you are claiming, here are some facts to prove you are talking utter shite"

Course, this doesn't stop them going on about it, but it does mean that no one takes them seriously.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Papabendi » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:42 pm

Hendrick was bloody awful today.
And for a withdrawn ten, although not an absolute must, there are not enough goals there to justify the role.
Could do with a break.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:45 pm

Papabendi wrote:Hendrick was bloody awful today.
And for a withdrawn ten, although not an absolute must, there are not enough goals there to justify the role.
Could do with a break.
I don't think anyone would disagree with that suggestion. That was his worst game for us. He gets bad press when he plays well but today he was as bad as anyone on the pitch although I don't think he got much help from some of those around him.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by superdimitri » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:06 am

claretspice wrote:More defensively robust when we play 442? Have you checked our defensive record this season?
Have you watched us play 442 this season? Or even seen how better we play in defence when we play 442? We even change too 442 to close off games.

If you are going to make an argument, at least make some sense.

Its just nonsense, no one hates Jeff, no one is criticising him as a player, he is just playing a role which makes him ineffective.

The teams crying out for a linchpin between attack and defence and hes just not that. If he was good at doing what you say he does, he wouldn't be getting repeatably bad player ratings.

As someone said, there is nothing he offers right now and you can shape and bend it however you want, watch him play, watch how bad he performs and then see how much better we play without him and then draw conclusions.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:13 am

So you think we are better defensively 4-4-2 than 4-5-1?

I'm not sure that stacks up on any level to be fair.

We go 4-4-2 to try to win games, or to try to get back into games. One thing that doesn't do is make us defensively stronger.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by BFC88 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:53 am

claretspice wrote:Again, he had plenty of confidence last week, so I'd be astounded if its all drained away in a week. Can we not keep the analysis simple and say he struggled today in what sounds to have been a really poor team performance in the first hour from back to front?
Hendricks been a passenger for a while now. Does not suit his position at all. Either swap him with Defour or bench him.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by CombatClaret » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:09 am

The fact Dyche hasn't dropped Hendrick seems to indicate Dyche is at least content with what Hendrick is doing within his system. One that has lead us so far to our highest position.
It's very frustrating to see a player go missing however I don't think we set up with the No10 role looking to emulate an Eden Hazard or even Pascal Gross type player.

It's a shame as we seem to have options up front and it would be lovely to see a Vokes/Ings type relationship up front. I think with Brady & Wood out plus a disrupted back 4 who's consistency has been a real strength we are just treading water helped by the favorable league position we find ourselves in.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by superdimitri » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:29 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:So you think we are better defensively 4-4-2 than 4-5-1?

I'm not sure that stacks up on any level to be fair.

We go 4-4-2 to try to win games, or to try to get back into games. One thing that doesn't do is make us defensively stronger.
4-4-2 was the formation that kept us in this division last year and the one we still use when we play more defensively.

Yes, it also happens to be a flexible formation that we can use to attack too, but we change to 4-4-2 to close games also, we are simply more sound defensively with 4-4-2.

If we protect a lead better with 4-5-1 why doesn't Dyche sub Westwood on?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:41 am

ClaretTony wrote:I don't think anyone would disagree with that suggestion. That was his worst game for us. He gets bad press when he plays well but today he was as bad as anyone on the pitch although I don't think he got much help from some of those around him.
"I don't think he got much help from some of those around him." That's the telling line and I think today a lot of that was to do with playing Sam as the lone striker, he can't do that job at this level I'm afraid. Barnes buys us yardage with his gaining of free kicks, it's something Sam simply doesn't do (to be fair there aren't many better in the PL better at doing that than Barnes). Having said that, at this moment in time Hendrick doesn't really have competition for his place so regardless of how he performs he will seemingly always start and that for me is a problem (nothing against Jeff). He started the season well but his drop in form recently has been alarming, I would also say over the last few games that Cork hasn't been of his usual standard but I put that down to us flogging him over the christmas period (it's why he shouldn't have played at Man City)

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:11 am

In the last month, Hendrick has been seen as hugely disappointing by many on here but seems to have a strong base of vocal supporters (nothing wrong with that). I`M interested to know why after this latest abject performance, where many are giving him 3s and 4s on the ratings thread, his supporters/beraters of those who have dared to criticise his performances, are comparably quiet in his defence. This `he does so much good work off the ball` nonsense is beginning to grind.

p.s. a tad `harsh` on reflection but the point that he needs to be dropped has to be sinking in with Dyche. If not, that concerns me. Arfield, who has limitations at this level, I believe would be far better in the `Hendrick` role as he never loses his physicality and can `see a pass` even with limited options ahead of him.

IN `defence` of Hendrick, many in the team look tired so he isn`t being `helped`. Cork,who has been magnificent, has been a shadow of his former self in the last 3 or 4 games.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Blackrod » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:39 am

If he keeps being picked whilst turning in such abject performances I can see him becoming the next boo boy. The groans have already started and it's not going to help him, his game or us as a team.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Papabendi » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:30 am

I think he is missing his mate Brady big time. They linked well.

Irritation yesterday was his willingness to give up on balls he could have retrieved and getting knocked off the ball too easily. If you’re not playing well than the very least is 100% effort,

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:18 pm

Papabendi wrote:I think he is missing his mate Brady big time. They linked well.

Irritation yesterday was his willingness to give up on balls he could have retrieved and getting knocked off the ball too easily. If you’re not playing well than the very least is 100% effort,
Wasn't there yesterday, but interestingly Whoscored.com has him being dispossessed once in 90 minutes yesterday, which compares with Barnes (4) and Vokes (3) amongst those tasked with holding off opponents the most. It also suggests he was gulty of miscontrolling and having the ball taken off him 3 times, which compares with 4 apiece for Barnes and Gudmundsson (both of whom admittedly played all or nearly 90 minutes).

Those stats aren't much in themselves but they do seem at odds with perceptions. For what its worth, Hendrick had 27 touches in his 62 minutes, which translates to roughly 41 or 42 over 90 minutes, which compares with JBG (48 in total), 50 for Barnes and 34 for Vokes. So perhaps Hendrick was slightly less involved whilst on the pitch, but only slightly and during a period of the game where perhaps we didn't play well enough to get any attacking player in the game, and perhaps he held onto the ball slightly less well than Gudmundsson and Vokes, but actually rather better than Barnes.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:22 pm

Papabendi wrote:I think he is missing his mate Brady big time. They linked well.

Irritation yesterday was his willingness to give up on balls he could have retrieved and getting knocked off the ball too easily. If you’re not playing well than the very least is 100% effort,
Bang on. He came out on the wrong side of a number of 70/30’s yesterday. A talented footballer but seemingly no competitive edge whatsoever. Not what you expect to see from a Burnley player.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:25 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Bang on. He came out on the wrong side of a number of 70/30’s yesterday. A talented footballer but seemingly no competitive edge whatsoever. Not what you expect to see from a Burnley player.
And not something I would have thought any of us could imagine Dyche standing for. Which suggests, once more, that Dyche has a very different perspective on Hendrick's competitiveness and desire to chase things down.

One think I have noticed about Hendrick is that he gives very few free kicks away, largely because he rarely commits himself in a way that could give a foul away. I rather suspect that is something that Dyche likes, and which comes from Dyche's instructions (cheap free kicks at the back are a great way to allow the opponent to get possession on their terms), but it does make him look a bit tentative on occasions.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Reecey1987 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:26 pm

And how many times does jeff caught offside ?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:31 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:And how many times does jeff caught offside ?
Once yesterday. Less than Vokes (2). Usually - one or twice a game, which is more than I'd like, but significantly less frequently for Barnes, who managed in one game earlier in the season to be offside on two occaions which caused us to have 2 goals ruled out.

But that's a different point to the one raised on this thread. Final stat I'll point out from yesterday is that Hendrick's passing accuracy yesterday is apparently 86%, the best of any Burnley player (ahead of Defour, 84%)

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by watsonsclarets » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:32 pm

The issue with the player is he not a number 10 and we don't have one. Spice you say he had a good game against City?. Look at the video again look at his runs look who he blocked off 3 times on break-aways then come back and tell me he had a good game.

And as for his pass completion that stat never tells the full story. Have a look at the stats for number 10 in the premier league look at the direction of passes you will notice a marked difference between his and other players in and around.

End of the day he fits the framework or we simply do not have better.

Klopp has a good thought on stats he ignores some and the pass completion is no sure-fire way of judging if he had a good game.

I would rather have a player with 70 percent pass completion trying forward balls than playing safe balls in his position.

Look at his runs look at his forward passes. Look for his creativity.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:35 pm

claretspice wrote:And not something I would have thought any of us could imagine Dyche standing for. Which suggests, once more, that Dyche has a very different perspective on Hendrick's competitiveness and desire to chase things down.

One think I have noticed about Hendrick is that he gives very few free kicks away, largely because he rarely commits himself in a way that could give a foul away. I rather suspect that is something that Dyche likes, and which comes from Dyche's instructions (cheap free kicks at the back are a great way to allow the opponent to get possession on their terms), but it does make him look a bit tentative on occasions.
Most of the side are good at not giving cheap free kicks away and I agree that Hendrick is instructed to not challenge for balls that he isn’t going to win. He often doesn’t challenge a header and waits for the second ball which is understandable. But yesterday, and not for the first time, he gave up when in possession as soon as he was challenged. One of those occasions was on the Palace byline so giving away a cheap free kick would in fact have been advantageous to us. It must be a breeze to play against him.

Edit - and I think the fact that Dyche persists with Hendrick in that position is because he thinks that Hendrick is the best we’ve got in that position. He may very well be but that shouldn’t stop us from looking to improve what seems to be a glaring weakness in the side. He does seem to be subbed off regularly which would suggest that Dyche isn’t overly enamoured by his performances. I’d be surprised if he starts on Saturday.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by watsonsclarets » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:37 pm

His movement for me is his biggest weakness but for me he a better running forward than receiving and passing forward and that position is much deeper than he is playing now.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:47 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:His movement for me is his biggest weakness but for me he a better running forward than receiving and passing forward and that position is much deeper than he is playing now.
I tend to agree with that. Re City - I think he did pretty well, certainly, and again the stats bear this out. I don't know what the runs blocked off you're referring to are and you may well have picked up on something I've missed there (we're all fans rather than experts - how many of us identified, as MOTD did, that Defour was at least as culpable as Bardsley for the goal yesterday?).

Regarding passing forwards and position - I've just put a long post on the thread about our weakness in midfield about this. In summary, I think he's appearing to be playing further forwards than Dyche wants him to, because we're not controlling games as Dyche wants us to. I think formations are over emphasised, but roughly Dyche wants us to be 4-4-1-1 when we're on the back foot in games, but more like 4-3-3 when we're on the front foot, and the latter suits Hendrick better than the former. All of this is chicken and egg (Hendrick has a role in getting us on the front foot to get us into a 4-3-3 shape) but if we can control games better we'll be 4-3-3 more and that will help Hendrick. More pace out wide will help us get into 4-3-3 more because we'll be better in transition and give the striker and Hendrick more options to pass forwards. At the minute, our relative lack of pace means that when we rarely turn a clearance into a counter-attack, because if Hendrick and the striker win possession, the wide players just don't have the pace for us to turn a defence.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:49 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Most of the side are good at not giving cheap free kicks away and I agree that Hendrick is instructed to not challenge for balls that he isn’t going to win. He often doesn’t challenge a header and waits for the second ball which is understandable. But yesterday, and not for the first time, he gave up when in possession as soon as he was challenged. One of those occasions was on the Palace byline so giving away a cheap free kick would in fact have been advantageous to us. It must be a breeze to play against him.

Edit - and I think the fact that Dyche persists with Hendrick in that position is because he thinks that Hendrick is the best we’ve got in that position. He may very well be but that shouldn’t stop us from looking to improve what seems to be a glaring weakness in the side. He does seem to be subbed off regularly which would suggest that Dyche isn’t overly enamoured by his performances. I’d be surprised if he starts on Saturday.
He's probably our most subbed off player, but I'd guess Defour features pretty high in that list (Hendrick has on a number of occasions replaced him in the centre of midfield) so I don't know how good a measure that is. As you say, it will be interesting to see whether he starts on Saturday, but we've had this conversation after a lot of games recently and Hendrick's always been in the team the next week. If Dyche agreed with sentiment on this messageboard that he's under-performing, then rather than start him and hook him after an hour, he'd have moved onto dropping him well before now.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:53 pm

claretspice wrote:He's probably our most subbed off player, but I'd guess Defour features pretty high in that list (Hendrick has on a number of occasions replaced him in the centre of midfield) so I don't know how good a measure that is. As you say, it will be interesting to see whether he starts on Saturday, but we've had this conversation after a lot of games recently and Hendrick's always been in the team the next week. If Dyche agreed with sentiment on this messageboard that he's under-performing, then rather than start him and hook him after an hour, he'd have moved onto dropping him well before now.
I think if Hendrick underperforms and we get a result then he is likely to keep the shirt. He rarely changes a winning, or even drawing side. If Hendrick underperforms, and yesterday there’s absolutely no question whether he did, and we lose then I expect to see a change.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by watsonsclarets » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:37 pm

claretspice wrote:I tend to agree with that. Re City - I think he did pretty well, certainly, and again the stats bear this out. I don't know what the runs blocked off you're referring to are and you may well have picked up on something I've missed there (we're all fans rather than experts - how many of us identified, as MOTD did, that Defour was at least as culpable as Bardsley for the goal yesterday?).

Regarding passing forwards and position - I've just put a long post on the thread about our weakness in midfield about this. In summary, I think he's appearing to be playing further forwards than Dyche wants him to, because we're not controlling games as Dyche wants us to. I think formations are over emphasised, but roughly Dyche wants us to be 4-4-1-1 when we're on the back foot in games, but more like 4-3-3 when we're on the front foot, and the latter suits Hendrick better than the former. All of this is chicken and egg (Hendrick has a role in getting us on the front foot to get us into a 4-3-3 shape) but if we can control games better we'll be 4-3-3 more and that will help Hendrick. More pace out wide will help us get into 4-3-3 more because we'll be better in transition and give the striker and Hendrick more options to pass forwards. At the minute, our relative lack of pace means that when we rarely turn a clearance into a counter-attack, because if Hendrick and the striker win possession, the wide players just don't have the pace for us to turn a defence.
I think your interpretation of the transition is correct ideally Hendricks would be the 2 or 3rd part of this but with our lack of pace and deeper nature of our wide players, i tend to agree with your issue about forward passes. I think another thread on her highlights our issue for me with the sitting Defender which makes the forward-thinking wide players an issue with positioning.

Transitions are our issue massively at the minute

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Braindead » Sun Jan 14, 2018 6:50 pm

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:55 pm

Just seen this on facebook and laughed my head off. A bit overy the top but very funny.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:34 pm

Abysmal again

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by watsonsclarets » Sat Jan 20, 2018 4:36 pm

So what has the fans favourite done of note in this game as well??

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:00 pm

watsonsclarets wrote:So what has the fans favourite done of note in this game as well??
I thought Ben Mee played well?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by watsonsclarets » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:11 pm

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touch tight he dived in with two players close..

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then Tarks followed the ball but Bardsley get the blame for it look at the central area in out defence.

Yes united movement is great but massive hole

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:14 pm

Not as bad as last week. A 4 this week, which if we continue with that progress should see him doing ok come February..

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:19 pm

I honestly don`t see what he brings to the team at the moment. People will say he carries the ball and has physicality but geez, that is the bare minimum you would expect from any player in his position. Dyche is loyal though so he will continue to play. I`d much prefer to see Arfield in his position and Lennon to play on the wing (why sign him otherwise???)

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:20 pm

He doesnt carry the ball at all.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by MACCA » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:22 pm

If he'd have been subbed at HT today, I don't think anyone would have been surprised.
I think I counted 3 consecutive times he either give the ball away or chose the wrong option.
His passing was poor
His tackling powder puff
His shooting and crossing even worse

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Iloveyoubrady » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:24 pm

Jesus. Why is he still in the team. We need some more creativity, especially as we spend so little time attacking.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:25 pm

I hate to slag off Burnley players but he is starting to really frustrate me. Offered nothing for quite some time now.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:25 pm

Played a lot better today. Pressed well and played some clever passes
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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by claretrobo1 » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:27 pm

Am I the only person who thought he did okay? Tidy play but made a bad mistake in the second half. Seems like he is being blamed for everything at the minute. He hasn’t been great and could’ve easily been dropped before today but I thought he did well

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:30 pm

I thought he was better today BUT I think he looks tired - could do with some competition for his place imho

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Re: Jeff Hendrick

Post by taio » Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:34 pm

Had several good moments and played better despite a couple of poor mistakes.

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