SORRY but female match commentators

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:12 pm

Is it because I/we are so used to the male take on a game and their delivery that I find each and every woman`s voice on commentary SO grating????? It`s awful!!!!! To be honest most male commentators get on my wick but Jackie Oakley (who I enjoy on podcasts) and the Wigan vs West Ham female commentator just make it so difficult to watch/listen to the game. No doubting their knowledge is up there with the chaps but nails on blackboards...horrible to hear.

cutsy123 · Post by **cutsy123** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:15 pm

Them on sky sports news watchin the gamed for the studio are terrible. Not sexist but its a mans graft

BarstewardsEnquiry · Post by **BarstewardsEnquiry** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:17 pm

No need to apologise

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:19 pm

sorry but Alex Scott is stunning. could watch and listen to her all day

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:19 pm

Bianca Westwood is probably the best cockney reporter of either gender.

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:22 pm

Bianca Westwood, Michelle Owen are as good as the male reporters on Soccer Saturday

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:23 pm

It is annoying, but you will be called a bigot for admitting it

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:23 pm

Michelle Owen not bad - usually seems to be covering Norwich games.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:25 pm

Need to do something to earn a crust now they are banned from darts .

Exeterclaret · Post by **Exeterclaret** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:26 pm

cutsy123 wrote:Them on sky sports news watchin the gamed for the studio are terrible. Not sexist but its a mans graft

Might be easier if you have a copy and paste template next time. Here you go:

Not sexist but <insert sexist statement>

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:27 pm

I think if they try to be as strident as most male commentators are it doesn't work as it sounds too forced. Just need to find a style that works - more Barry Davies than John Motson.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:33 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Is it because I/we are so used to the male take on a game and their delivery that I find each and every woman`s voice on commentary SO grating????? It`s awful!!!!! To be honest most male commentators get on my wick but Jackie Oakley (who I enjoy on podcasts) and the Wigan vs West Ham female commentator just make it so difficult to watch/listen to the game. No doubting their knowledge is up there with the chaps but nails on blackboards...horrible to hear.

I would rather spend an evening with ablueclaret than listen to Jackie Oakley commentating on a game.

Well maybe not but you get my drift

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:36 pm

Exeterclaret wrote:Might be easier if you have a copy and paste template next time. Here you go:

Not sexist but <insert sexist statement>

Not sexist but < they should stick to working in the kitchen >

Is this on the lines of what you mean Exeter ?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:36 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Michelle Owen not bad - usually seems to be covering Norwich games.

He's shocking, should stick to his horses business...

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:41 pm

I think the art of commentary is not just what to say but more when to say it. It seems anyone involved in it currently receives renumeration by the word. Adam Gilchrist is a typical exponent of this but by no means is he on his own.

Burnleybabe · Post by **Burnleybabe** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:13 pm

Sorry to disappoint you all, but Women do watch Football.
They also know a lot about the Game.
So why not Women commentators, cant be any worse than the men we have that do the job.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:20 pm

Some folks on here really, really hate change don’t they?

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:23 pm

It's Lawrenson who grates on me. He's on now as co-commentator and I feel like turning the sound off.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:25 pm

Burnleybabe wrote:Sorry to disappoint you all, but Women do watch Football.
They also know a lot about the Game.
So why not Women commentators, cant be any worse than the men we have that do the job.

Sport can't resist. Did you play football?

happyclaret17 · Post by **happyclaret17** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:25 pm

no need to apologise at all.....its very very difficult to listen to.....its just wrong on so many levels....bring back motty or even jimmy hill....and he is dead.

clive40golf · Post by **clive40golf** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:36 pm

Whilst I think female interviewers can be top notch and bring a lot to football, as do female match officials. When they commentate they don’t seem to bring the atmosphere/excitement in their voice. And I have enough of wife droning on at home without having to listen to one on the television talking Sh!te

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:44 pm

some of their high pitch voices are like nails scraping on a blackboard.

gsyclaret · Post by **gsyclaret** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:50 pm

Bianca is our saturday sqeeze down the golf club.

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:51 pm

Burnleybabe wrote:Sorry to disappoint you all, but Women do watch Football.
They also know a lot about the Game.
So why not Women commentators, cant be any worse than the men we have that do the job.

Have you finished the ironing already?

DAVETHEVICAR · Post by **DAVETHEVICAR** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:55 pm

We have a lot of sexist posters on here unfortunately

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:58 pm

Some are ok and some aren't so no different to the guys.
The most annoying is hearing ''I'm sammi jolo' or whatever she's called at the end of travel news. Her voice is one that means I dont hear what she said before like it's all joined up and inconsequential and then you get that grate line at the end.

CardyTheClaret · Post by **CardyTheClaret** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:01 pm

Had a good stream of the Chelsea game earlier. It had no commentary at all, that’s how I’d like it.

bob-the-scutter · Post by **bob-the-scutter** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:02 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Is it because I/we are so used to the male take on a game and their delivery that I find each and every woman`s voice on commentary SO grating????? It`s awful!!!!! To be honest most male commentators get on my wick but Jackie Oakley (who I enjoy on podcasts) and the Wigan vs West Ham female commentator just make it so difficult to watch/listen to the game. No doubting their knowledge is up there with the chaps but nails on blackboards...horrible to hear.

Two words........Jonathon Pearce .

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:03 pm

Two more.....Michael Owen.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:10 pm

Bianca Westwood is great and Kelly Cates is a good anchor, they're much better than plenty of blokes.

But male weather presenters. that's just plain wrong.

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:14 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:We have a lot of sexist posters on here unfortunately

I can’t stand Clive Tyldsley commentaries and I also think Alison Mitchel’s On the Cricket are god awful. Because I think Alison Mitchell is a crap commentator does that make me sexist Or am I still allowed to have an opinion.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:16 pm

You're a sexist

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:17 pm

Agree about Alison on BT ashes cricket. She was awful, but the BT men weren't that good either.

Goody1975 · Post by **Goody1975** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:22 pm

It's the tone and pitch of the voice that are the issue not the sex of the commentator, i agree entirely that a couple of the commentators (not BBC/Soccer Saturday staff) that happen to be women have voices that just don't suit the job they are employed to do, the lady who did the Wigan vs West Ham game yesterday has a voice that starts very high and at moments where there is a near miss or goal it leaves human hearing capabilities and can only be heard by dogs.

Jonathan Pearce and Alistair Mann are male culprits but the worst of the lot is the guy who did the club video for the Play Off Final in 1994, his voice was that bad i watched the video once and never got it out again, completely ruined.

The version of the goals on youtube with the Radio Lancashire commentary is 1000% better.

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colne-claret · Post by **colne-claret** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:35 pm

I don’t like female commentators at all. My fiancé who is female actually agrees with me on this, she can’t stand listening to them. However, I do really like female news anchors/hosts. I think Kelly Cates is fantastic on sky sports and speaks a lot of sense and is very knowledgeable.

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:37 pm

Vino blanco wrote:Agree about Alison on BT ashes cricket. She was awful, but the BT men weren't that good either.

Have to agree with this the BT cricket commentary has been appalling, male or female.

Burnleybabe · Post by **Burnleybabe** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:29 pm

Bertiebeehead wrote:Have you finished the ironing already?

Never do ironing MY MALE partner does it while I watch the Football.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:47 pm

Goody1975 wrote:It's the tone and pitch of the voice that are the issue not the sex of the commentator, i agree entirely that a couple of the commentators (not BBC/Soccer Saturday staff) that happen to be women have voices that just don't suit the job they are employed to do, the lady who did the Wigan vs West Ham game yesterday has a voice that starts very high and at moments where there is a near miss or goal it leaves human hearing capabilities and can only be heard by dogs.

Jonathan Pearce and Alistair Mann are male culprits but the worst of the lot is the guy who did the club video for the Play Off Final in 1994, his voice was that bad i watched the video once and never got it out again, completely ruined.

The version of the goals on youtube with the Radio Lancashire commentary is 1000% better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40TM1y33fN8&t=22s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I will mention it next time i see him

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:47 pm

Burnleybabe wrote:Never do ironing MY MALE partner does it while I watch the Football.

Good old turtle!!

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:54 pm

That Vicky Sparks who did the wigan game yesterday is bloody awful with that high pitched voice.. volume off when she is on again..

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:55 pm

Female commentators talk a whole lot of rubbish. Which means they fit in very well with the male commentators. Once of a day, Sky Sports had two sound channels, one with commentary and one with just the crowd noise - you could choose which to listen to. That facility was quickly removed, presumably because too many people were using it.

If they want TV commentary to be anything other than a detraction, they need firstly to remove the commentator's friend, because having two of them means they just want to have a chat; and secondly, educate the commentator that he doesn't need to keep talking. The picture is there - the commentator only needs to add to it, he doesn't need to describe what you can plainly see. If the two blokes behind you in the stand at the game were talking like that, you'd tell them to shut up for certain.

My mother is deaf and watches everything with subtitles, except football because the subtitles cover the action. She tells me to tell her if the commentators say anything interesting. I can literally go the whole 45 minutes without telling her anything.

UpTheClaretsFCBK · Post by **UpTheClaretsFCBK** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:05 pm

I don’t mind the Soccer Saturday ones. I think there’s a women on there that’s actually quite good. Usually doing lower league games with a video link.

I’m not a fan of female full match commentary at all. It just doesn’t sound right.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:16 pm

I quite like Gabby Yorath presenting and especially like her interviewing and match punditry is fine like Alex Scott pitch side but yes the high pitch female commentator that suddenley bursts out of your screen in the middle of the championship program is as said higher up grating.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:19 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:Bianca Westwood is probably the best cockney reporter of either gender.

She looks and sounds like Tony Cottee. Unless it is him and he has had an op.

houseboy · Post by **houseboy** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:01 am

Okay:
Football is a man's game. I don't want female commentators, I don't want female officials and I don't like women's football. Some things are just not meant to be 'mixed'. Women have their things in all walks of life and that's good and men have theirs. This is really just pampering to the same people who use the phrase 'not acceptable' a lot. There is nothing wrong in keeping women (or men) out of certain aspects of life. Men don't force themselves on predominantly female sports and pastimes, why should they do it, or is it just because they can.

There you go, it's been said, I don't care what the response is or if people start to point the finger of accusation at me, let's face it, it's just what so many people think but are afraid to say.

Guich · Post by **Guich** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:16 am

I must admit I've never wanted to play netball. Does that mean I'm a sexist now?

RocketLawnChair · Post by **RocketLawnChair** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:20 am

It's a strange one. Commentators comment on stuff so for example my wife comments on a hell of a lot more stuff than me so surely that makes her by default a better commentator.

We work together and apply our strengths like yesterday for example I cleared the gutters and took a skim off the sticking hallway door and my wife made a fantastic family meal. If them roles were reversed the gutters and door would still need finishing along with the now added repair work to the Mrs hair and fingernails and tea would have been shite.

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:47 pm

houseboy wrote:Okay:
Football is a man's game. I don't want female commentators, I don't want female officials and I don't like women's football. Some things are just not meant to be 'mixed'. Women have their things in all walks of life and that's good and men have theirs. This is really just pampering to the same people who use the phrase 'not acceptable' a lot. There is nothing wrong in keeping women (or men) out of certain aspects of life. Men don't force themselves on predominantly female sports and pastimes, why should they do it, or is it just because they can.

There you go, it's been said, I don't care what the response is or if people start to point the finger of accusation at me, let's face it, it's just what so many people think but are afraid to say.

You're fine to have an opinion.

But so am I, and I think you're a knob. Football might have been 'started' by blokes but who are you to say that ladies can't have any part in it.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:12 pm

Rachel Brown is well fit. Can't decide whether Eiidh Barber is straight or not but very attractive anyway. They both have good knowledge so I can put up with it but there are too many others popping-up.

timshorts · Post by **timshorts** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:23 pm

Guich wrote:I must admit I've never wanted to play netball. Does that mean I'm a sexist now?

I'd rather play netball than basketball. There seems to be more skill in it.