Granddad vs Grandad

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:24 pm

I'm sorry, I know Spades won't be happy, but I'm 38 and grew up spelling it Grandad. Christmas cards, birthday cards, thank you letters for the presents he and my Grandma sent me... it was always Grandad.

Granddad looks ridiculous.

And I've only noticed people spelling it Granddad recently. I'm sure a few years ago, it was always Grandad.

As I love things like this, I decided to do some digging (not literally).. it appears Granddad is American.. Grandad is British english. We copied Halloween from America. We copied the Prom, from America.

Do we have to copy Granddad?

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:27 pm

No.....

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:28 pm

tim_noone wrote:No.....

Good! It looks crap.

Fretters · Post by **Fretters** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:28 pm

Granddad does make sense. If it's grand ma, it must be grand dad.

I did always use Grandad though

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:29 pm

Fretters.. you're not helping.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:35 pm

Grandad it is. Why ? Cos it just is.

mill hill claret · Post by **mill hill claret** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:42 pm

My grandparents were called pearl and Dean
But we preferred to call them grandma and grand pa pa pa pa pa

spadesclaret · Post by **spadesclaret** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:43 pm

What about grand daughter?

Grandaughter?

Granddaughter?

Obviously the latter.

I rest my case

I'd be happy with gran'dad.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:46 pm

Which is the correct spelling: “Granddad” or “Grand-dad” or “Grandad”?

According to Google NGram, in British English the spelling "grandad" is more popular than "granddad", however American English, the spelling "granddad" is more popular than "grandad".

Volvoclaret · Post by **Volvoclaret** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:50 pm

Surely it's Grandmater and Grandpater?

BooRadley · Post by **BooRadley** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:50 pm

Why FactualFrank do you care, you aren’t one of either

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:54 pm

It's Grandad and Grandaughter.

Well for me it is

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:56 pm

BooRadley wrote:Why FactualFrank do you care, you aren’t one of either

I wasn't alive from 1939 to 1945 either, but I still like to read about the second world war.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:03 pm

Definitely grandad but I understand the logic of granddad even though it’s clearly wrong!!

BooRadley · Post by **BooRadley** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:07 pm

Don’t take it too serious. I just thought at 38 you would probably not be a Grandad yet and maybe not for a while so it seemed a little of lighthearted banter.

GordonvaleClaret · Post by **GordonvaleClaret** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:09 pm

This bloke talks proper English

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KJGJRd8pGE

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:17 pm

BooRadley wrote:Don’t take it too serious. I just thought at 38 you would probably not be a Grandad yet and maybe not for a while so it seemed a little of lighthearted banter.

I never took it personal, it's fine.

Had I lived in Liverpool, I'm sure I'd be a Great Grandad!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:20 pm

Always been granddad for me and not grandad

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:22 pm

FactualFrank wrote:I never took it personal, it's fine.

Had I lived in Liverpool, I'm sure I'd be a Great Grandad!

At 38 you’d have been an old grandad

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Always been granddad for me and not grandad

Now that’s strange for me, I understand the logic but I’ve never seen it as granddad. Even predictive text puts it as grandad.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:27 pm

I would hazard a guess that a very high percentage of Grandads spell it as Grandad

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:33 pm

Interesting.

Looking at the trend, granddad has shot up in popularity since the mid to late 90s. With grandad remaining the same.
However, grandad is still quite clearly the most often used spelling in the UK. But granddad is catching up.

I suspect it's because we're basically trying to be American. We're doing what they do. Like I mentioned... halloween - they celebrated it long before us, so we decided to join in. Going to the Prom... they did it, so we now do it.

The Internet kicked off big time in the late 90s - Google started in 1998, just as the trend pointed upwards. Then we had social media with people 'learning' how to spell from mainly the Americans.

It's little surprise why it's surging up in the way we spell words.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:36 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:Now that’s strange for me, I understand the logic but I’ve never seen it as granddad. Even predictive text puts it as grandad.

There was no predictive texting when I first started writing granddad

Just logical to me grand-ma grand-dad

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:40 pm

I'm another who (as a child) was a stickler for 'correct' spelling but I always wrote grandad.

thatdberight · Post by **thatdberight** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:52 pm

Granda for me which sidesteps this issue as 'Grandda' is so obviously wrong.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:12 pm

Bo!!ocks or Bo!!ox?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:17 pm

Given the choice, anything that involves double D's is always going to get my attention.

I know, I know, that's straight out of Carry On Up The Clarets!

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:17 pm

I'm "Granddad Paul" to my granddaughter.

Yes, yes, I know it's not the conventional "English English" spelling - but it follows the same form as "granddaughter" and the same form as "grandmother." Why do we make it so difficult for kids to learn to read (and spell) with confusing/contradictory word forms?

Besides, when she's older and asks why it is "spelt wrong" I can explain that my spelling is special and chosen just for her.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:38 pm

Paul Waine wrote:I'm "Granddad Paul" to my granddaughter.

Yes, yes, I know it's not the conventional "English English" spelling - but it follows the same form as "granddaughter" and the same form as "grandmother." Why do we make it so difficult for kids to learn to read (and spell) with confusing/contradictory word forms?

Besides, when she's older and asks why it is "spelt wrong" I can explain that my spelling is special and chosen just for her.

Never met you Paul. But, from your posts on here, your granddaughter has got a very likeable Granddad. Best wishes to her. When my grand children come along ( fingers crossed!) they're going to get spoilt rotten.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:43 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:When my grand children come along, they're going to get spoilt rotten.

I should think so. He lives in Florida.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:50 pm

It is definitely Grandad in the UK.....but to my two I am Grandpa.

ps...if it looks to be spelt wrong then it usually is.

pps....this guy should know.
https://youtu.be/QlDNPX3pTs0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:36 am

Fretters wrote:Granddad does make sense. If it's grand ma, it must be grand dad.

I did always use Grandad though

How do you know its not gran dad and gran dma...

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:37 am

The Enclosure wrote:It is definitely Grandad in the UK.....but to my two I am Grandpa.

ps...if it looks to be spelt wrong then it usually is.

pps....this guy should know.
https://youtu.be/QlDNPX3pTs0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anyone who spells it granddad is mental. And oar a very pour speller!

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:48 am

For those of us where a dd is pronounced like the "th" in the word "the" then granddad would be granthad so I prefer Grandad although it's "Taid" here anyway even when speaking English.

Caernarfon_Claret · Post by **Caernarfon_Claret** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:27 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Anyone who spells it granddad is mental. And oar a very pour speller!

A pour speller = a failed magician?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:07 pm

Caernarfon_Claret wrote:A pour speller = a failed magician?

BarstewardsEnquiry · Post by **BarstewardsEnquiry** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:13 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Interesting.

Looking at the trend, granddad has shot up in popularity since the mid to late 90s. With grandad remaining the same.
However, grandad is still quite clearly the most often used spelling in the UK. But granddad is catching up.

I suspect it's because we're basically trying to be American. We're doing what they do. Like I mentioned... halloween - they celebrated it long before us, so we decided to join in. Going to the Prom... they did it, so we now do it.

The Internet kicked off big time in the late 90s - Google started in 1998, just as the trend pointed upwards. Then we had social media with people 'learning' how to spell from mainly the Americans.

It's little surprise why it's surging up in the way we spell words.

Just for clarity, Halloween is not American. It was celebrated in Britain over 2000 years ago long before the US had been invented.

THEWELLERNUT70 · Post by **THEWELLERNUT70** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:22 pm

Grandad imo

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:40 pm

We need spades.

For what it's worth Grandad all day long for me.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:42 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:How do you know its not gran dad and gran dma...

Aren't those the two small islands to the south of Tenerife?

tybfc · Post by **tybfc** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:43 pm

Sorry spades - missed your earlier post. I normally have an alarm goes off in my house when you type something so I must check it.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:51 pm

Mine calls me gangan but when I do cards etc I sign grandad. As opposed to when they come on holiday as it just costs me a grand.