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Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:46 pm

Thursdays Selections

CHELMSFORD

17.55

KYLLUKEY ... Trading at 7.8 on Betfair .. Stable had a 40/1 winner yesterday and this horse has won off 71 before ( runs of 57 here ). Hasn't won for awhile but this applies to a lot in this field and has some decent 2nds to his name this season in better races than this.Only ran here once before

ROYS LEGACY .. Trading at 4.8 on betfair ... In form and knows how to win, promising claimer on board .. closely matched with Firesnake on previous course form over 6f .. probably better at this trip .


18.30

FREEBIE ROCKS .. Trading at 2.72 on Betfair.. beat The Night King just over three lengths at Lingfield and is now 7lb worse off and both have won since.

OLIVE MABEL .. Trading at 12.0 on Betfair .. behind The Night King last time but had a wide passage in race and is better off at weights now


19.00

VERY HONEST .. Trading at 3.35 on Betfair ..Closely matched with Pulsating but might just have the edge .

MYTHICAL SPIRIT .. Trading at 9.00 on Betfair .. Lightky raced and gets weight from the two principals at the head of the betting


20.00

NONIOS .. Trading at 5.4 on Betfair .. previous Course winner who had Shamrokh behind him,and ran well again last time out

MAESTRO MAC.. Trading at 5.0 on Betfair ..Comfortable winner last time out and won on only start here . Small stables last two runners both won

20.30

SURREY BLAZE ... Trading at 3.25 on Betfair ...Easy Winner at odds on here last time after having previously won at Wolverhampton.. Upped 13 lb since that first win but could still be improving .


21.00

PALAWAN ... Trading at 5.2 on Betfair .. ran best race for along time last time out and on old form would be a well handicapped horse

WIN LOSE DRAW ... Trading at 8.4 on Betfair .. Carries penalty for last time out win here, offset by useful apprentice booked .. all wins at shorter trips but has place firm over further. Can be slowly away

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by cutsy123 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:08 pm

Mythical.spirit lands at 8s
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:14 pm

Gotta eat first! Missed that.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:37 pm

Get in Surrey ....!

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:09 pm

Thursdays Selections / Results

CHELMSFORD

17.55
KYLLUKEY .......................... UNPLACED
ROYS LEGACY .................... UNPLACED

18.30
FREEBIE ROCKS ................. 2nd
OLIVE MABEL ..................... 4th

19.00

VERY HONEST ................... UNPLACED

MYTHICAL SPIRIT ............ WON 8/1

20.00
NONIOS .......................... 4th
MAESTRO MAC................ UNPLACED

20.30
SURREY BLAZE ................. WON 2/1

21.00
PALAWAN ........................... UNPLACED
WIN LOSE DRAW ................ 2nd


Level stakes profit/loss of + 1 Pts on the day

Running cumulative total + 11 Pts level stakes profit / loss

To carry over

HAPPYCLARET17............. 0 Pts level stakes profit/ loss

FLYINGBOLTCLARET....... + 11 Pts level stakes profit/loss

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:35 pm

It puzzles me why you keep putting happy in here, are you obsessed? He obviously isn’t interested in your posts so why do you continue?

Genuine question.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:53 pm

Two nice winners tonight... FB.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by conyoviejo » Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:59 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:It puzzles me why you keep putting happy in here, are you obsessed? He obviously isn’t interested in your posts so why do you continue?

Genuine question.
Does it matter? ,Does it bother you? Just asking.
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:02 pm

it started out as a P/L post to de bunk some of the myths regarding the profitability of backing horses ... and to help others make up there minds as to whether any of the posting on the racing thread were worth following . And to give factual information

Why it caused so much grief I will never know ... Happy was one of the main posters the racing thread .. on this board and in the other one .. He doesn't post at the moment .

The template I set up for the P/L included him .. It's unfortunate that he has chosen not to post .. but I'm sure he will return .. The P/L template contains facts nothing else and can't be anything other then a good thing .. the more information you have the more informed decisions you can make

I can't see why it bother you or others .. I just post my views .. I don't back horses, make outrageous claims of profits .
I don't spend the amount of time Happy does on races .. and fully expect to show a big level stakes loss with my posts .. It would have been an interesting exercise to see how others included Happy performed over say 6 months / year

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Barrowfordclaret » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:08 pm

Can you please include me in the Running cumulative totals? My tip for tomorrow is Billy Dutton 14:00 Exeter because I own a Burnley shirt like the jockey is going to wear

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:12 pm

Fully agreed bit of harmless fun punting and selecting over Six months or so. I draw the line at being vetted by someone I don't know so as to receive "tips"in secret. Not for me I'm afraid. And the abuse and name calling said it all for me end of.and so it continues :roll:
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:20 pm

Barrowfordclaret wrote:Can you please include me in the Running cumulative totals? My tip for tomorrow is Billy Dutton 14:00 Exeter because I own a Burnley shirt like the jockey is going to wear

I'm guessing that's the kit from the seventies worn by the likes of Peter Noble and Brian Flynn ?

P.s I'm assuming the owners are West Ham fans . Hence the name Upton racing .. and the other horse they own being called Redbridge Miller ..

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Thu Feb 22, 2018 11:00 pm

conyoviejo wrote:Does it matter? ,Does it bother you? Just asking.

Think it matters a great deal to certain individuals .. oh well !!

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:42 am

conyoviejo wrote:Does it matter? ,Does it bother you? Just asking.
It doesn’t matter at all, I never said that it does, I just find it a bit weirdly obsessive, that’s all.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by MACCA » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:26 am

I find it weirdly obsessive, that you find it weirdly obsessive, that someone you don't know is writing something factual about someone else you don't know, yet you continue to get your knickers in a twist about it.
I think this is what another poster meant by, other people getting upset or offended on other peoples behalves.

HAPPYCLARET17............. 0 Pts level stakes profit/ loss

FLYINGBOLTCLARET....... + 11 Pts level stakes profit/loss

Nothing there that slanders, degrades or offends anyone.
When FB goes into minus figures, I'm sure it will be the exact same layout.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:46 am

MACCA wrote:I find it weirdly obsessive, that you find it weirdly obsessive, that someone you don't know is writing something factual about someone else you don't know, yet you continue to get your knickers in a twist about it.
I think this is what another poster meant by, other people getting upset or offended on other peoples behalves.

HAPPYCLARET17............. 0 Pts level stakes profit/ loss

FLYINGBOLTCLARET....... + 11 Pts level stakes profit/loss

Nothing there that slanders, degrades or offends anyone.
When FB goes into minus figures, I'm sure it will be the exact same layout.
All a bit like playground bullying. If you read most of the posts.very sad.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:15 am

MACCA wrote:I find it weirdly obsessive, that you find it weirdly obsessive, that someone you don't know is writing something factual about someone else you don't know
I do know happy.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:30 am

tim_noone wrote:Fully agreed bit of harmless fun punting and selecting over Six months or so. I draw the line at being vetted by someone I don't know so as to receive "tips"in secret. Not for me I'm afraid. And the abuse and name calling said it all for me end of.and so it continues :roll:
What name calling was that?
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Carnsmerry12 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:54 am

I don't post very often and when I do its mainly regarding football, films ,books or horse racing. I love a day out at the races and my next trip is on Good Friday at Lingfield. I like to follow a number of horses and always enjoy competing with others when Tybc does his nap leagues etc. Clearly both HC and FBC know what they are talking about but FBCs template appears to suggest there is a competitive element involved. Simply editing the template should suffice.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:54 am

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:I do know happy.
Gerraway with you.and?

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:55 am

Carnsmerry12 wrote:I don't post very often and when I do its mainly regarding football, films ,books or horse racing. I love a day out at the races and my next trip is on Good Friday at Lingfield. I like to follow a number of horses and always enjoy competing with others when Tybc does his nap leagues etc. Clearly both HC and FBC know what they are talking about but FBCs template appears to suggest there is a competitive element involved. Simply editing the template should suffice.
A very fair and valid point.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:17 am

Welshclaret wrote:So Tim, sorry Flying, if you remove Happy's name off your thread then I think it'll show everyone you're finally rid of your obsession with Happy.
It would be great if Happy could post his selections for Cheltengam on here without "interference" but I doubt that'll happen either.
The obsession is yours.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:08 am

tim_noone wrote:Gerraway with you.and?
Macca suggested that I didn’t.
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by MACCA » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:10 pm

All seems a little cloak and dagger for what essentially is a bit of fun, surely?

How come, or possibly more why, can't 2 sepereate tipsters have a thread each or even tip on the same 1? You never know them may even tip the same horses the odd time.

Surely the aim of the game is for fun, and then where possible take a bit back from the bookies?

If Happy is getting great results potentially into the thousands, surely it's better the more people know the better?

Can someone not put on Happy's tips on his behalf so there's no need for tit for tat arguments.

Tim, what do you mean vetted before you could receive Happy's tips?
Is there a charge or something?

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:19 pm

Not sure on cloak and dagger but people replying to themselves using different usernames is plainly weird.
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:22 pm

If you want to be in his gang of brethren. He requests your email so you can receive tips in secret ...but has some vetting system as to your user name.the thing I think a bit strange the secret brethren having got their information for tips then hijack another thread. You only have to read the racing threds to see the mob mentality. Nothing constructive.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:50 pm

MACCA wrote:All seems a little cloak and dagger for what essentially is a bit of fun, surely?

How come, or possibly more why, can't 2 sepereate tipsters have a thread each or even tip on the same 1? You never know them may even tip the same horses the odd time.

Surely the aim of the game is for fun, and then where possible take a bit back from the bookies?

If Happy is getting great results potentially into the thousands, surely it's better the more people know the better?

Can someone not put on Happy's tips on his behalf so there's no need for tit for tat arguments.

Tim, what do you mean vetted before you could receive Happy's tips?
Is there a charge or something?
The whole idea of posting the respective P/l was to enable posters to judge the respective merits of the information .. just factual information to help those who read the racing posts .. nothing else

The abuse I have received from Happy and others for simply posting my views has been ridiculous.

There is indeed a vetting process to receive information from Happy .. your have to give your username when you email him , then your posts are checked .. if successful you will give your phone number and become part of a whatsapp group

Several of the reply emails state ... " we must get rid of Flyingbolt .. and advise you to contact the mods .oreviously he had openly posted advise to others to block me and others who wanted to post on "his thread"

Happy ceased posting on the racing thread as soon as the P/L thread started and then posting his own betfair profits ( big wins big losses classic trait of a gambler and not sustainable )

That in itselfs says a lot .. if you check his recent selections before he ceased posting they were producing a level stakes loss and a lot of his historical posts were similar.. e.g. Cheltenham .. two actual winners from over 30 selections etc

Yet only last week one of his minions was saying he'd made 240 points profit in less than a week .. credible or not .. I'll leave that to others to decide

I note that my recent threads have been abuse free ( maybe posters prevented from posting? ) but the Friday thread started by another poster has attracted the usual abuse from the same posters .. including one from the returning Happy !!


As you said if Happy really wanted his advice to be freely available to all he would continue to post on here .. nothing or no one is preventing him from doing it

And if he had any decency he would tell his " members to desist from the constant abuse and back biting

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Carnsmerry12 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:06 pm

If the whole idea of posting the respective P/L was to enable punters to judge the respective merits of the information..........nothing else,
then as you are the only one posting selections then there can surely be no need in posting HCs P/L?

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by quoonbeatz » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:36 pm

Flyingboltclaret wrote:The abuse I have received from Happy and others for simply posting my views has been ridiculous.
lets have this right, you weren't 'simply posting your views', you were commenting on happy's and usually disagreeing with his methods.

isn't this exactly what happened last time you appeared on here? in fact, you only seem to reappear when happy starts posting regularly.

i guarantee that if you'd just posted selections without commenting on anyone else's, no one would have been arsed and there wouldn't have been all this petty squabbling. continually posting these p/l figures when happy isn't posting is just plain weird.

i don't think anyone is interested in the bitching; most people were happy just to have someone with a bit of knowledge posting selections. these threads have just got silly now with all the backbiting and multiple account tw@ttery but you alone were the cause of it all.
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:45 pm

Why is it ok to comment or disagree on almost any other thread or topic but not on a racing thread or more to the point to disagree with Happy and his views ?

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Walton » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:47 pm

How do I get on Happy's mailing list?

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:50 pm

Walton wrote:How do I get on Happy's mailing list?

Think you need to post on the Cheltenham thread or daily profits thread and say "email me happy".. then await the vetting procedure and possible admittance to the whatsapp group

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by quoonbeatz » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:58 pm

Flyingboltclaret wrote:Why is it ok to comment or disagree on almost any other thread or topic but not on a racing thread or more to the point to disagree with Happy and his views ?
its fine to comment on racing threads and its fine to disagree with happy, nobody is saying it isn't.

but there was a regular pattern emerging:

happy posts about the day's racing
you pop up saying sire stats are ******** or similar and then post a load of selections for the same races

i could be wrong but i don;'t think happy ever pulled you up on your selections and thats the difference. again, thats why all this started, you being a bit of an arse.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:59 pm

Welshclaret wrote:So Tim, sorry Flying, if you remove Happy's name off your thread then I think it'll show everyone you're finally rid of your obsession with Happy.
It would be great if Happy could post his selections for Cheltengam on here without "interference" but I doubt that'll happen either.
Nothing to stop him posting his Cheltenham views on here . Last years made fascinating reading ( 30 odd losing bets too ) .. But he has tried to prevent others posting .. you find that acceptable ?

You appear to be one of many who constantly refer to Happy in replying to posts .. and use similar words

Would be nice if others could post without "interference too .. nearly all your posts have been on the racing threads .. but no views or selections on any of the racing .. Now that is odd !!

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:37 pm

Like a playground this forum.

All I will say is the only tipster I have made profit from following from this forum is FBC. Havent engaged in the posts or threads to date as cant be arsed with the bickering and petulance and clicky nature.

(Ps this is Tims third username, allegedly :lol: )

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by cutsy123 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:48 pm

I miss happys tips

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:49 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Like a playground this forum.

All I will say is the only tipster I have made profit from following from this forum is FBC. Havent engaged in the posts or threads to date as cant be arsed with the bickering and petulance and clicky nature.

(Ps this is Tims third username, allegedly :lol: )
I only have the one username .. think certain posters with an agenda are being mischievous ( me being polite )

I just post my views and record the profit/ loss, and that of others can't see a problem with that, as it gives everyone a full factual picture of which selections to follow etc . I always try to respond to posts politely, tho I probably shouldn't bother at all replying

But there is an agenda from certain posters on the racing thread who want it all to themselves .. or want it shut down

Yes all very childish
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:42 pm

cutsy123 wrote:I miss happys tips
Soft arse!

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by MDWat » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:55 pm

tim_noone and flyingboltclaret aren't the same poster.

These threads are getting ridiculous. Both Friday ones pulled due to sheer bellendary and we'll just delete them all if it carries on. They're ******* ridiculous.
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by MRG » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:14 pm

Why pull them? Just delete the offending post and stop them posting for an hour

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:24 pm

MDWat wrote:tim_noone and flyingboltclaret aren't the same poster.

These threads are getting ridiculous. Both Friday ones pulled due to sheer bellendary and we'll just delete them all if it carries on. They're ******* ridiculous.
Thanks for clarifying that.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by MDWat » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:26 pm

tim_noone wrote:Thanks for clarifying that.
Hopefully helps the bickering. Bit loathe to check as there are no rules against doing it (I think it's a bit weird, mind) and I don't need to know.

You have no other usernames posting off your IP. Flyingboltclaret has one other username posting off his IP (only 2 posts, so don't really know what that means! :))
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Goobs » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:44 pm

MDWat wrote:Hopefully helps the bickering. Bit loathe to check as there are no rules against doing it (I think it's a bit weird, mind) and I don't need to know.

You have no other usernames posting off your IP. Flyingboltclaret has one other username posting off his IP (only 2 posts, so don't really know what that means! :))
I'm not a technical person so I am probably wrong here but if I had 2 phones and was using one on my WIFI and one on data would they not show as different IP's? Therefore if I used a separate username on each phone I could show as two separate individuals even if it was all me?

Not suggesting this is what is happening here just a general wonderment about how you can confirm something like that unless you know both posters. Genuine question btw.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:50 pm

Goobs wrote:I'm not a technical person so I am probably wrong here but if I had 2 phones and was using one on my WIFI and one on data would they not show as different IP's? Therefore if I used a separate username on each phone I could show as two separate individuals even if it was all me?

Not suggesting this is what is happening here just a general wonderment about how you can confirm something like that unless you know both posters. Genuine question btw.

I don't use another username . So can we stop all these conspicuous theories .. and just post about racing

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by MDWat » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:51 pm

Goobs wrote:I'm not a technical person so I am probably wrong here but if I had 2 phones and was using one on my WIFI and one on data would they not show as different IP's? Therefore if I used a separate username on each phone I could show as two separate individuals even if it was all me?

Not suggesting this is what is happening here just a general wonderment about how you can confirm something like that unless you know both posters. Genuine question btw.
No idea, but you'd surely have to have a brilliant memory and have never posted off the same username on either device. Good point, but can't say I'm bothered enough to find out! :D
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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by tim_noone » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:53 pm

Goobs wrote:I'm not a technical person so I am probably wrong here but if I had 2 phones and was using one on my WIFI and one on data would they not show as different IP's? Therefore if I used a separate username on each phone I could show as two separate individuals even if it was all me?

Not suggesting this is what is happening here just a general wonderment about how you can confirm something like that unless you know both posters. Genuine question btw.
Just accept the facts. And let your "wonderment" drift away.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Goobs » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:57 pm

Flyingboltclaret wrote:I don't use another username . So can we stop all these conspicuous theories .. and just post about racing
Oh pipe down for God sake and stop getting you're panties in a twist for no reason. I even said in my last post it was just a general question and that I wasn't implying anything about anyone as I just wondered about the logistics of such a situation.

I couldn't care less how many usernames you have and MDWAT has already confirmed you have two so saying you only have one is clearly untrue.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Flyingboltclaret » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:59 pm

I don't have two usernames . He stated two posts in another username was made off my IP address .. so please don't make untrue statements

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by Goobs » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:59 pm

MDWat wrote:No idea, but you'd surely have to have a brilliant memory and have never posted off the same username on either device. Good point, but can't say I'm bothered enough to find out! :D
Thanks for the response. I don't blame you as I wouldn't have the inclination to research it any further either :lol: just wondered (passing thought) if that was possible.

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Re: Thursday's Racing

Post by MDWat » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:59 pm

Goobs wrote:Oh pipe down for God sake and stop getting you're panties in a twist for no reason. I even said in my last post it was just a general question and that I wasn't implying anything about anyone as I just wondered about the logistics of such a situation.

I couldn't care less how many usernames you have and MDWAT has already confirmed you have two so saying you only have one is clearly untrue.
Two have posted off that IP (and the other one only twice out of 23 posts). He could house share and someone use the same PC, so it isn't foolproof. I just checked tim_noone and flyingboltclaret.

If the threads continue as they are, though, they'll all get pulled.
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