Help required from pub dwellers of Burnley

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:24 pm

So a colleague has this adorning his wall which details the pubs of Bolton in a faux version of the London Underground.

Pub Stops.png

I'd like a similar copy for my office which has details of the Burnley pubs leading to the town centre but it has not been created by the website in question.

So, if you want a job doing and all that, I'm going to do it myself however I will need some help as I confess I have not appropriated all the pubs of the district of Burnley Just yet. I'm now asking the oracle that is UTC to contribute the pubs in your area so I can pin them to my map of Burnley and then draw up the 'map' afterwards.

At this point, I'm not sure whether I'm going to include working men's clubs as yet as there are so many in the town but if you can offer them up it would be appreciated.

This won't be for profit and once created, I'll happily share this with all who want a copy (alternatively maybe CT could organise those who would like a copy to make a small donation to the UTCYF?)

So if you could give me the details of your pub(s) in the following format it would be a great help:

e.g.
Area of Burnley - Padiham
Pub & Road
Hare & Hounds, Whalley Road.
Bridge Inn, Burnley Road.
etc.

This doesnt need to be a pub that you'd frequent but if I can get most of the locations then we have a chance of a reasonable looking 'map'.

I appreciate the help from everyone!

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:31 pm

There are lots of sites on the Web that show maps of Burnley's pubs.
Google is your friend.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:33 pm

Google maps is proving to be useless for one but if you can point me in the direction I'd appreciate it.

Just to add, CAMRA's site misses obvious ones like the Boot and White lion in the town centre to name two! Not sure I can trust that.

IAmAClaret · Post by **IAmAClaret** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:40 pm

Google maps is probably the best. You may find some 'lesser-known' pubs on sites such as:

https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/areas/burn ... ancashire/

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:44 pm

IAmAClaret wrote:Google maps is probably the best. You may find some 'lesser-known' pubs on sites such as:

https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/areas/burn ... ancashire/

Thanks for that suggestion! Not sure it covers all the ones from places out of town like Fence, clowbridge, etc but a great start!

Unfortunately Googlemaps is garbage for finding them, hence requesting 'local' knowledge.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:55 pm

I think we’ve move on from CMYF now.

Big task but not as big as it once was. You’ve mentioned the Bridge on Burnley Road. Is that the one in Clowbridge? If so it’s long gone, been a Chinese restaurant for some years now.

You mentioned Fence. I think the Bay Horse is gone now but if you go further down Wheatley Lane there’s the White Swan (Mucky Duck) and then the Sparrow Hawk.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:58 pm

Two pubs at Haggate are The Hare and Hounds and The Sun Inn .Then you have the Roggerham Gate Inn on Todmorden Road Roggerham.
In Harle Syke there is The Commercial and The Craven Heifer both on Briercliffe Road.
Further down Briercliffe Road there is The Baltic Fleet.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:01 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think we’ve move on from CMYF now.

I confess I'm not up on it Tony

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:02 pm

Darthlaw wrote:I confess I'm not up on it Tony

Just replace CM with UTC

IAmAClaret · Post by **IAmAClaret** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:10 pm

Darthlaw wrote:Thanks for that suggestion! Not sure it covers all the ones from places out of town like Fence, clowbridge, etc but a great start!

Unfortunately Googlemaps is garbage for finding them, hence requesting 'local' knowledge.

It does actually cover all 'districts' if you go to a different url:

https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/towns/burnley/lancashire/

It lists 93 pubs in the following format:

[Name] (Number And Street)
[District]

EG:
General Williams Inn, The (311 Manchester Road)
Coverage: Towneley

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:12 pm

IAmAClaret wrote:It does actually cover all 'districts' if you go to a different url:

https://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/towns/burnley/lancashire/

Belting! Thanks IAAC!

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:32 pm

Well I am a claret that has put paid to my evenings entertainment lol.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:55 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:There are lots of sites on the Web that show maps of Burnley's pubs.
Google is your friend.

Aye just type "pubs" in on Google maps and zoom in

longside72 · Post by **longside72** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 4:57 pm

If you want to include bacup ;
The Waterloo
Union st
Bacup

Its run by clarets now , im sure the'll donate for adding them on.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:13 pm

I looked up pubs in Nelson.

There are two left !

Sausage · Post by **Sausage** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:You mentioned Fence. I think the Bay Horse is gone now but if you go further down Wheatley Lane there’s the White Swan (Mucky Duck) and then the Sparrow Hawk.

Bay Horse has long gone. Is the landlord of the White Swan in Wheatley Lane still the utter knobcheese who ran it in the 1990s and would refuse people entry before they'd even got through the door? I've never met such a massive bellend before or since.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:56 pm

Sausage wrote:Bay Horse has long gone. Is the landlord of the White Swan in Wheatley Lane still the utter knobcheese who ran it in the 1990s and would refuse people entry before they'd even got through the door? I've never met such a massive bellend before or since.

Don’t think it’s the same landlord. Believe it’s more of a restaurant these days.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:12 pm

Sausage wrote:Bay Horse has long gone. Is the landlord of the White Swan in Wheatley Lane still the utter knobcheese who ran it in the 1990s and would refuse people entry before they'd even got through the door? I've never met such a massive bellend before or since.

I went in the white swan only the once "free house" could I have a pint of tetleys please I asked him..sir! We have a number of quality beers in this establishment I suggest if you want a pint of tetleys go and drink in a tetleys pub!! I thought tetleys was a good yorkshire ale. Does this man sound like the landlord?

Elder statesman · Post by **Elder statesman** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:21 pm

Nonayforever wrote:I looked up pubs in Nelson.

There are two left !

There are 4 pubs in Nelson:
Shooters, Station, Lord Nelson and Thatch and Thistle.

Elder statesman · Post by **Elder statesman** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:23 pm

tim_noone wrote: I went in the white swan only the once "free house" could I have a pint of tetleys please I asked him..sir! We have a number of quality beers in this establishment I suggest if you want a pint of tetleys go and drink in a tetleys pub!! I thought tetleys was a good yorkshire ale. Does this man sound like the landlord?

No, Tim. That was Gerry. He's long gone. He was a character.

Sausage · Post by **Sausage** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:35 pm

tim_noone wrote: I went in the white swan only the once "free house" could I have a pint of tetleys please I asked him..sir! We have a number of quality beers in this establishment I suggest if you want a pint of tetleys go and drink in a tetleys pub!! I thought tetleys was a good yorkshire ale. Does this man sound like the landlord?

Sounds very like him. I went in there twice. Well, attempted to get in twice. First time I was with two other lads and we must've been 18 or 19. Managed to get a round in, then sat down in the corner having a quiet chat. Nothing too rowdy, just three lads talking. After about five minutes, the landlord appeared at the table and announced: "You won't be getting any more beers, lads. Drink up and move on." He refused to give us an explanation, so we surmised that he was just a pillock.

I tried getting in again a year later with a girlfriend, thinking he couldn't possibly have a reason to turn us away. I'd barely wiped my feet on the doormat before I heard him shout: "Not tonight, sunshine."

I imagine he's dead now. At least I hope so.

Elder statesman · Post by **Elder statesman** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:18 pm

He was a former jockey. We used to go in on Friday night. He had a good selection of ales and took pride in them. My mate used to wind him up by asking for a pint of bitter. Gerry used to say "which bitter? There are 8" Then my mate would start at the left hand side of the bar and work his way along, trying all the beers. Gerry would stop him when he realised what he was doing.
One of the lads got barred. He just said "any chance of a bit of supper please landlord"
Certainly a one off but you couldn't fault the beer.

Bfc · Post by **Bfc** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:33 pm

The much improved Bay Horse, also the Crooked Billet in Worsthorne, both selling cracking beers. The Kettledrum( named after a Derby winner) The Ram Inn Burnley Rd Cliviger.

Tales (and I know plenty) of the White Swan in Fence is in regard to Arthur Dcd, the landlord, who could have had a book written about him, re his like or dislike of his customers. I was always made welcome by him and his wife Barbara, although it was not a pub I frequented often. He had 13 beers on tap and I would just start at one end and carried tasting pints of each one until I'd enough, but not quite finishing all of them. When people asked him if they could have a drink his favourite beer, he said they're all my favourite. Or someone putting a log on his fire had their beer taken from them and their money returned, then barred. As he said I wouldn't walk into your house and stoke up the fire. There's many many more instances that I know of. But he was a connasuier of keeping a lot of good beer. The racing silks adorning his walls, were what he wore as an amatuer jockey

TractorFace · Post by **TractorFace** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:50 pm

Me and my missus once went in (White Swan in Fence) and got barred before we'd barely set foot in the place. Our crime? Being bikers, apparently. The guy was a bellend.

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:03 pm

I have a printed list of Burnley pubs & ale houses with addresses & named landlords from 1888 if that's any help.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:41 am

Pub stops.png

First draft is done, thanks for all who helped / suggested websites!

If anyone wants a copy, let me know.

Burnley_Mark · Post by **Burnley_Mark** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:14 am

Looks great, very good work

Just interested, why no miners or 110 club?

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:21 am

Burnley_Mark wrote:Looks great, very good work
Just interested, why no miners or 110 club?

I’ve tried to keep strictly to pubs and bars but as it’s a first draft I might add working men’s clubs too. Trouble is there so many and (to my knowledge) no resource to find them.

If we can get suggestions on here again then I’ll add them.

Mala591 · Post by **Mala591** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:05 am

I like the phrase 'pub dweller'

homo sapiens > homo pub dweller > homo ?

What will the next stage of human evolution be ?

homo virtual reality dweller ?

Falcon · Post by **Falcon** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:16 pm

Missing Coal Clough?

Edit: Found it, was expecting it to be before Angel Inn on the pink line from Ministry of Ale

chipbutty · Post by **chipbutty** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think we’ve move on from CMYF now.

Big task but not as big as it once was. You’ve mentioned the Bridge on Burnley Road. Is that the one in Clowbridge? If so it’s long gone, been a Chinese restaurant for some years now.

You mentioned Fence. I think the Bay Horse is gone now but if you go further down Wheatley Lane there’s the White Swan (Mucky Duck) and then the Sparrow Hawk.

Tony, I presume he means The Bridge in on Burnley Road in Padiham as the other 2 pubs he mentions are from there.

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:57 pm

Love it. Keep us posted on the progress of the final copy. Would love a copy.

Elder statesman · Post by **Elder statesman** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:06 pm

Yes please. I'd like a copy too. Thanks

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:31 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Pub stops.png
First draft is done, thanks for all who helped / suggested websites!

If anyone wants a copy, let me know.

Can I just suggest putting a date on it for when people look back at it in a few years.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:34 pm

Padiham Order of March is:

Hare and Hounds
The Free Gardeners Arms
Katie Kelly's is now the Kings Arms
Starkie Arms
Hand and Shuttle
Flying Dutchman
Bridge Inn
Shakespeare

I don't use them but hope this helps

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:47 pm

JohnMac wrote:Padiham Order of March is:

Hare and Hounds
The Free Gardeners Arms
Katie Kelly's is now the Kings Arms
Starkie Arms
Hand and Shuttle
Flying Dutchman
Bridge Inn
Shakespeare

I don't use them but hope this helps

The Starkes is re-opening as a Sports bar after a 6 week refurb. Might be a name change?

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:20 pm

PubStops.png

Next version. If anybody wants an A3 size pdf, please drop your e-mail on here and I'll send it across.

Elder statesman · Post by **Elder statesman** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:40 pm

The Inn on the Wharf is closed.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:49 pm

Elder statesman wrote:The Inn on the Wharf is closed.

Look closer.

The Park View has the same symbol.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:05 pm

Darthlaw wrote:Look closer.

The Park View has the same symbol.

I was going to say the same thing - but there’s no key to what the symbol means

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:08 pm

In the smoke it means 'Services or access to these stations is subject to variation'.

It was just a cheeky easter egg for those observant enough.

Elder statesman · Post by **Elder statesman** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:46 pm

Cheers Darth. My eyes aren't that good. Thought you were just doing the ones that were open. There are loads of closed down pubs. There was a list in the Ministry and one of the regulars used to update it.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:18 pm

Just a thought if you’ve gone as far as and included white swan & sparrow hawk should the Forest be included?

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:52 pm

Aye I’ll put the forest on there later on.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:43 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
PubStops.png
Next version. If anybody wants an A3 size pdf, please drop your e-mail on here and I'll send it across.

That is ace Darthlaw!

Seen this in the lakes and thought they looked good.

I’m going to find somewhere for one of these and then get in touch with you.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:26 pm

Loyalclaret wrote:That is ace Darthlaw!

Seen this in the lakes and thought they looked good.

I’m going to find somewhere for one of these and then get in touch with you.

Cheers Loyal!

Pub.png

Latest (and probably last) version.

-Added The Forest at Fence.
-Extended the Over t'Ground line to connect Hapton, Padiham and Four Alls at Higham,
-Put some closed pubs on there with the Symbol (Old Red Lion, Crossed Keys) as it looked a bit sparse in the centre.
-And finally, how you all missed that I had put the Bay Horse on the wrong side of the River Brun... SHAME ON YOU!

Again, anyone who wants the PDF post your e-mail and I'll send it across. It's A3 sized so decent for an office wall.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:39 pm

I must say that's brilliant.

Could you post the PDF as an attachment so we can download it rather than you having to e-mail it out to us?

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:39 pm

missed the 110 club.

Darthlaw · Post by **Darthlaw** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:42 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:I must say that's brilliant.

Could you post the PDF as an attachment so we can download it rather than you having to e-mail it out to us?

Tried that. Won't accept PDF's.

I'll see if I can put a dropbox link or something.

ClaretAL - 110 Club is exactly that - a working men's club.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:51 pm

Darthlaw wrote:Tried that. Won't accept PDF's.

I'll see if I can put a dropbox link or something.

ClaretAL - 110 Club is exactly that - a working men's club.

BB11 in town centre.