Financial implications of getting 7th spot ( europe )

[Quickenthetempo]

It's certainly a very interesting debate and one most of us ever thought we'd be having. If you look at the financial rewards attached to the Europa league on the UEFA website they really aren't great. IF you actually win it you get (I think) about 15 million for your overall participation which definitely isn't to be sniffed at. Neither is the accompanying entry to next year's CL which is worth zillions. However you'd need to deduct significant travel costs, costs of increasing the squad size, the possibility of more injuries and the possible knock on effects on league form following long trips to Wherethehellisstan for Thursday night games. Unless you do win the competition it appears it COULD probably cover the costs involved as long as you make some reasonable progress, but it might even be a financial burden. The increased publicity and accompanying kudos is difficult to quantify and if you end up playing one of Europe's top teams home and away it could be a fantastic experience. (And financially lucrative!)
I remember both Bolton and Stoke having forays into it in recent years and tbh it didn't seem to do them a lot of good.
Anyway, if BK is smiling at the prospect then I'm happy too as Barry knows his onions when it comes to the finances of BFC.

It was Mike Garlick sat with the fans.

Liverpool made 50m from being runners up tother year. I presume they could demand more T.V money than us though.

[Dark Cloud]

It was Mike Garlick sat with the fans.

Liverpool made 50m from being runners up tother year. I presume they could demand more T.V money than us though.

Apologies, it's normally BK I (literally) bump into in random places like the London Underground or when I inadvertently knocked him over outside Euston and my mate had to send me back to say sorry!
TBH it was hard to fathom it all and TV money which apparently varied from country to country and also from club to club depending on how "popular" you were did have a big bearing on things I think. Hence Liverpool doing more than ok.

[ClaretTony]

I was stood next to the Chairman and his son yesterday in the away end and he was beaming with pride as the 'Were all going on a European tour' rung out from the away end.

He certainly didn't look like a guy that was worried about losing money if we qualified, thank God he's not as weary as someone of the wet wipes on here about the Europa league.

Was Garlick in the away end? I wasn't suggesting there would be any worry, just that it is not a competition that is a good one financially.

[Quickenthetempo]

Was Garlick in the away end? I wasn't suggesting there would be any worry, just that it is not a competition that is a good one financially.

Yeah, with his son I presume who certainly enjoyed singing for 90 minutes.
He wouldn’t be able to do that in the directors box.

[ClaretLoup]

Re squad strength. We already have a very strong squad.

In addition to the seven tried and tested EPL players sat on the bench yesterday, we also have Heaton Brady Defour Arfield Walters Gudmundsson & Taylor. Many of those experienced internationals.

One more quality forward plus one or two upgrades and the club could rotate easily enough to cope with Europa League.

In any case problems like promotion to the EPL, which are related to success, are the ones you want.

[ClaretTony]

Yeah, with his son I presume who certainly enjoyed singing for 90 minutes.
He wouldn’t be able to do that in the directors box.

Are you sure it was the chairman?

[Quickenthetempo]

Are you sure it was the chairman?

Yeah, I only noticed as lots were getting pictures with him so I had a good chat with him at half time.
He was very open and speaking to lots of supporters.

[ClaretTony]

Yeah, I only noticed as lots were getting pictures with him so I had a good chat with him at half time.
He was very open and speaking to lots of supporters.

I’ve sat with John B in the away end and I’ve seen Brian Nelson in there too previously. Never previously seen the chairman though. Good on him.

[Quickenthetempo]

We were up the back on row SS.

It's good for the club and shows how close the clubs board and fans are.

[TurfyMoore]

I can not believe people are not more enthusiastic about playing in Europe. It may be that the Europa League has been devalued over the years in the same way as the FA Cup has been but still as it stands there could be fixtures against clubs like Lazio, Inter Milan, Eintracht Frankfurt, Seville, Valencia. It would be nights like that that will stay in the memory a lot longer than a trip to Bournemouth or whatever.

I still have terrible memories of us playing Eintracht Frankfurt

[pureclaret]

If you win the Europa cup you earn £!3.9 million for competing in group gets £2.3 million with add ons for each draw of £120,000 and win bonus of £319,000 then if you progress £440k for round of 32 and £660k for last 16 then it gets even bigger.
not sure what it costs us to put on a game at turf moor but i guess those winnings over our costs ( wages are wages if we play or don't play so as long as we get a win or too we would be in profit.
With the bigger squad we would need there may be more costs on wage bill but as has been said before it would be easier to attract better players to join us (hope we dont go to Nottingham or villa for Hennri Landsbury)

[Blackrod]

You can't measure it in £££ - the brand exposure we will get will be priceless.

This and football is about achieving and winning things. When did we last play in Europe ? It's part of our history. In 20 years time people won't remember us finishing 7th but they might well remember us in Europe if it's the only time we achieve it in that period.

[Rileybobs]

Should a club that makes a £20m + annual profit be worried about the costs of a few flights and hotels? We should absolutely be striving to finishing 7th and hoping for Soton to not win the cup. I find it unbelievable that some Burnley fans don’t want us to qualify for Europe.

[Bin Ont Turf]

I fancy a Portuguese team because we should get some nice weather and I can say Cerveja and Obrigado.

[Sidney1st]

I fancy a Portuguese team because we should get some nice weather and I can say Cerveja and Obrigado.

KRBFC would develop an instant crush on their manager and want them to replace Dyche

[Grumps]

This and football is about achieving and winning things. When did we last play in Europe ? It's part of our history. In 20 years time people won't remember us finishing 7th but they might well remember us in Europe if it's the only time we achieve it in that period.

Really? Can you remember who Swansea played, or Stoke, or Everton or Fulham, or boro, or wigan... Plus which division are some of those teams in now, and two of the others might get relegated.... Apart from the 6 big clubs, all other teams struggle with playing in Europe... All the above will have had some good days out in Europe, but I wouldn't swap places with any of them. If that makes me any less a burnley fan then so be it.

[Quickenthetempo]

If we draw Trelleborgs it will be my first half and half scarf purchased.

[Spijed]

Really? Can you remember who Swansea played, or Stoke, or Everton or Fulham, or boro, or wigan... Plus which division are some of those teams in now, and two of the others might get relegated.... Apart from the 6 big clubs, all other teams struggle with playing in Europe... All the above will have had some good days out in Europe, but I wouldn't swap places with any of them. If that makes me any less a burnley fan then so be it.

So what. How many football fans outside Burnley know that we once played in Europe?

Can you remember Arsenals results in Europe recently?

No fans can remember the results of other clubs unless they reach the final so your point is a bit irrelevant.

[WestMidsClaret]

Glad SD and the team aren't as negative as some fans on here.

[Claretnick]

Really? Can you remember who Swansea played, or Stoke, or Everton or Fulham, or boro, or wigan... Plus which division are some of those teams in now, and two of the others might get relegated.... Apart from the 6 big clubs, all other teams struggle with playing in Europe... All the above will have had some good days out in Europe, but I wouldn't swap places with any of them. If that makes me any less a burnley fan then so be it.

I can't get me head around the negativity from some so called Burnley fans. If we qualify for Europe let's embrace it not moan about it, the financial side will be taken care of by the guys who are doing a great job of running the club. If we just miss out then so what, we have still had the best season I have seen since Dobbo, Taffy and co of the 70's.
Football fate moves in circles and we should all know these good times won't last forever, just look at our friends down the road, so lets enjoy whatever comes our way.
UTC..

[AndrewJB]

I love the fact our club handles money so well, and we've been fortunate financially. We have a modern training facility, and we're doing the right things for disabled fans. I think building from the ground up is shown to be the best approach we could take - rather than spending everything in an attempt to stay in the PL the first time (under Dyche), because allowing Dyche to have that season, and the following one in which we were champions gave him the experience to do better the next time around. Without a doubt the long term approach we have taken with exactly the right manager is the right one.

We have progressed. Dyche constantly talks about how hard the players on the bench work, and we've seen it when they've come in. We have two England goalkeepers. We've gone from having a first England cap in many a lifetime to having two players in one England team. We are good.

So if we qualify for the Europa League, then the positives are that with maybe a few more additions we have the means to compete in two leagues at the same time. Why not take that opportunity? We did before, playing reserve players against Chelsea before a Euro tie - and getting fined for it. It might improve our League, and FA Cup performances too. How often has it come around that a team with two world class goalkeepers has had a reason for keeping both for a full season together? The portants are favourable.

[Sidney1st]

Can you remember Arsenals results in Europe recently?
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Bayern Munich results ring a bell but only because it feels like an annual occurrence for Arsenal to get pasted by them.

[dsr]

Really? Can you remember who Swansea played, or Stoke, or Everton or Fulham, or boro, or wigan... Plus which division are some of those teams in now, and two of the others might get relegated.... Apart from the 6 big clubs, all other teams struggle with playing in Europe... All the above will have had some good days out in Europe, but I wouldn't swap places with any of them. If that makes me any less a burnley fan then so be it.

I know Middlesbrough reached the final, and I don't think they have many fans who wish they hadn't bothered.

[Loyalclaret]

The idea that the club would be bothered about travel and hotel cost- there areboard members named on this thread who have paid in the past out of their own pockets for the team to travel abroad.

Football distraction- possibly
Financial distraction- very questionable

[Chester Perry]

Can you remember Arsenals results in Europe recently?

No but I remember this

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[Dyched]

We’d only need a couple extra incomings plus a couple of youth. Id be more than happy spending £100s and travelling 100s of miles to see

Pope
Bardsley
Long
Mee
Taylor
Arfield
Westwood
Marney
Lennon
Vokes
Wells

Its Burnley in Europe. ******* BURNLEY

[MRG]

I have a bad feeling that Leicester will pip us at the post for 7th

[boatshed bill]

Isn't the whole point that you constantly try to play at the highest level?

[Quickenthetempo]

I have a bad feeling that Leicester will pip us at the post for 7th

Very good side on paper Leicester, it would be no shame in finishing behind them.

But we will just have to beat them at the Turf.

[pureclaret]

just noticed that if we finish a place above (7th) Leicester, we will get £3 million less than they will do.
Also that if City win the PL they get £156 million but United will get £159 million.
Good news is that if we make it to group rounds of the Europa we will get £2.6 million and added tv amounts.

[claretandy]

Southampton made £15m from the Europa League, and didn't even get out of the group stages.

[jlup1980]

I understand why some people would treat the Europa League as a bit of a poisoned chalice. It's a demanding competition that's for sure and it could easily distract us from our first priority of staying in the Premier League. However, a quick glance at this seasons Group stage shows what we could have if we make it.

Villareal, AC Milan, AEK Athens, Atalanta, Lyon, FC Copenhagen, Cologne, RB Salzburg, Marseille, Athletic Bilbao, Hertha Berlin, Lazio, Nice, Real Sociedad, FC Steaua Bucuresti... and from England we have Arsenal and Everton. Who wouldn't be proud to see the name Burnley FC amongst these others. Yes there are plenty of other random clubs in the competition but this would be a magnificent achievement for our little club, and one fully deserved if we manage to finish 7th in arguably the most difficult league on the planet!!

I agree there's a need for trepidation, but surely it'd actually be more a cause for serious celebration (which I'm more than happy to do whilst sat in a nice tapas bar in Bilbao!).

[AlargeClaret]

Some of the grumpy pessimistic curmudgeons on here need to wake up and live the moment ,this may well be the only European adventure we have for 50 yrs so why not kick back hold tight and enjoy the ride , we could all be run over by a bus tmrw.

[Darnhill Claret]

That would be one hell of a big bus.

[CharlieinNewMexico]

More worried about 3G pitches in somewhere like Kazakhstan in July. One cartilage or done knee could put someone out for 6 months