World cup thread

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:15 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:I can’t believe how petulant Neymar was towards the ref - when the opposition had 2 players down, probably timewasting, Neymar was “giving it large” as the youngsters would say and when the ref approached him to move him away I’m sure I lip read “don’t you touch me...” from Neymar - within moments he was again pushing the ref. I can’t stand him, would have loved to see Brazil leave early too.

They are not guaranteed yet. Lose to Serbia and Switzerland can bin them.

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:44 pm

I've never laughed so hard at a football game in my life.

When those two Rican's went down and there were people tending to them, it looked like the aftermath at the scene of a mass shooting with bodies all over the floor.

The ref was good though, he let play go on very well and didn't take much **** off the cheating Brazillians, my only problem was Neymar should have been booked a lot earlier and was constantly allowed to keep diving and berating the ref.

Good reffing overall though, Reckon he'd be top of rate the ref. He should get the final

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:46 pm

Neymar was horrible in that game. What a cheating, whinny little sh1t he is. Gutted he got a goal. Then he starts "crying" at the end. He even feigned his fuck1ng tears. What a sh1thouse.

To be fair to him (not that I want to) but the last 15 minutes was a theatre fest of play acting from most of the players. Poor ref had no chance of seeing what was and what wasn't a foul.

I'm loving the WC as a whole but some of the cheating is embarrassing.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:48 pm

I laughed when Southgate said that Loftus-Cheek had "Lovely, soft feet".

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:09 pm

Like most of the African teams Nigeria don’t do defending very well so early indications are a win for Icelandisonthe cards.

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:08 pm

Great goal Nigeria.
Come on Iceland!

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:35 pm

God Iceland are a terrible footballing team. Dull, boring and equally poor, cant believe where all the hype came from about this shower

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:36 pm

Gonna be tough for Iceland to get back into this.

Can't see them getting much off Croatia either...

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:40 pm

haha. another shocker thanks to a combination of var and a weakling ref.

where was that ball going?

and when did martin keown become such a pussy?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:40 pm

A World Cup of penalties

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:40 pm

A World Cup of penalties

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:40 pm

Rule of the law ... that should be a penalty

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:42 pm

Oh dear...

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:44 pm

VAR has mostly been very good, another correct decision there.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:45 pm

This World Cup just highlights how poor the referees are, every penalty decision they dont give ends up being given on 2nd review

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:46 pm

How much did Everton pay for that waste of space?

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:48 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:God Iceland are a terrible footballing team. Dull, boring and equally poor, cant believe where all the hype came from about this shower

I don’t think any of us ever thought Iceland were a great team but they have done magnificently to reach both the European and now the World Cup finals. The smallest nation ever to have done so. Population the size of Wigan. WIGAN, for god’s sake. The fans also have the best chant and, of course, the team has the best outfield footballer at these finals: Johann Berg Gudmunsson

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:51 pm

Another poor game, someone tell Iceland they're losing...

starting_11 · Post by **starting_11** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:00 pm

KRBFC wrote:This World Cup just highlights how poor the referees are, every penalty decision they dont give ends up being given on 2nd review

They've been told to play on and the video ref will pick it up. I don't think they're incompetent or bad, I just think they're waiting to be told to review the VAR. Apparently if they're called over, it's pretty much bang on and the ref just has to confirm it.

If VAR DOES become an ongoing thing I do think it will eventually lead to lazy, sloppy reffing though.

yTib · Post by **yTib** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:04 pm

If VAR DOES become an ongoing thing I do think it will eventually lead to lazy, sloppy reffing though.

if the refereeing becomes any sloppier i'll expect to see johnny vegas running around with a kebab.

every world cup is the same - refs with an agent strutting around with an ego.

the var has just amplified it. football is lost.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:06 pm

starting_11 wrote:They've been told to play on and the video ref will pick it up. I don't think they're incompetent or bad, I just think they're waiting to be told to review the VAR. Apparently if they're called over, it's pretty much bang on and the ref just has to confirm it.

If VAR DOES become an ongoing thing I do think it will eventually lead to lazy, sloppy reffing though.

But the referee didn't think it was a penalty otherwise he would've pointed to the spot and then reviewed it like with the Neymar one earlier.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:09 pm

You can just see Argentina qualifying after that result.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:44 pm

'No standout players for Serbia'

Serbia v Switzerland (19:00 BST)

Frank Lampard

Former England & Chelsea midfielder

"We know a lot of Serbia's players from the Premier League - I think there's a general tenacity about them. They don't really have any standout players but they'll stick together and they'll work hard for each other."

No "standout" players according to Frank Lampard he of "Lampard's Derby" - I thought he was their manager but he's seemingly the new Owner too - . Frank! heard of Sergej Milinkovic-Savic? No. Ok.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:08 pm

Good start from the Serbs.
1-0.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:21 pm

Tadić seems to play well for Serbia but has done very little when up against us.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:34 pm

Spijed wrote:Tadić seems to play well for Serbia but has done very little when up against us.

I think he showed poor form under Pellegrino, but bucked up under Hughes

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:13 pm

20 yarder to equalise!

Good game, this.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:18 pm

Unlucky from Shaqiri.

Far better winger than we already have.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:25 pm

Var being useless again. Two players held down the Serbian striker.

A penalty all day long, as clear as day yet nothing!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:27 pm

Spijed wrote:Var being useless again. Two players held down the Serbian striker.

A penalty all day long, as clear as day yet nothing!

Might as well scrap it and get Stevie Wonder to ref the final at this rate - disgraceful

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:29 pm

One of the most obvious penalties you could ever imagine.
Nobody needed VAR to give that.
The Ref should have given it!
But having somehow missed it, his earpiece should have been telling him!
Incredible!

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:31 pm

Spijed wrote:Var being useless again. Two players held down the Serbian striker.

A penalty all day long, as clear as day yet nothing!

I honestly don't understand the point, what are they looking at? are these professional referees watching in a studio? Putin has Switzerland to win on his accumulator and is stood in the VAR studio with a bazooka unless they're all sat around scratching their nuts and eating doritos.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:32 pm

Should have finished that.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:36 pm

I have only caught bits of games really, but whenever I have watched any team the amount of playacting is atrocious. Every single time Contact is made players are writhing around. Can VAR not fix that?

Embarrassing. I can't imagine what faces some of these grown men pull when they stand on an upturned plug in the middle of the night.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:42 pm

Cracking player is Shaqiri

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:48 pm

F**k me where's he got that 6 pack from? looks a reyt chubby fecker with a top on

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:51 pm

MoM wins it for the Swiss!
He took it well.

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:51 pm

Switzerland have been fantastic second half. Also think the ref got the Serbia penalty call right, Mitrovic was also fouling defenders.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:52 pm

Well done FIFA

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:55 pm

simonclaret wrote:Switzerland have been fantastic second half. Also think the ref got the Serbia penalty call right, Mitrovic was also fouling defenders.

He had two players hugging him and one was facing away from the ball. Not sure what he could have done?

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:13 pm

What a match! End-to-end for almost the whole 90 minutes. Fantastic advert for the game. It showed you don't lots of goals scored to make a top match.

A few points:

1) As mentioned by several Clarets how can you NOT give a penalty for the two-player manhandling on Mitrovic? A total farce.

2) I said to my ten-year-old lad that Krstajic wouldn't have been happy at HT given the Serbian domination. One of the oldest "rules" in the book: if you don't put away your chances...

3) I'm not his greatest fan but fair play to Shakiri. I think his shot that was blocked and made its way to Xhaka was going in. Hit the bar/post with a "blind" shot. And that goal was superb. £12m? Make that £24m.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:32 pm

Belgium - Tunisia kicking off soon.

If Belgium win and we win tomorrow we'll be through with a game to spare.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:35 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Belgium - Tunisia kicking off soon.

If Belgium win and we win tomorrow we'll be through with a game to spare.

Yes Belgium favourites for me today...but you never know

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:10 pm

Another penalty! Have there been loads of penalties or is it that we’re Burnley fans and not used to seeing them?

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:10 pm

Goal difference counts, yes? I`m amazed that more wasn`t/hasn`t been made of the Belgians only scoring 3 against Panama. It is a huge opportunity for us to SURELY have a better goal difference than them thus ensuring a draw will guarantee first place in the group. Am I wrong to think we should be hitting 4 or 5 at least against Panama (yeah I know we have been dire for 20 years serially bottle it, disappointment flows through the veins and I`m already preparing for the vacuum of despair soon to envelop me)?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:16 pm

Another terrible mismatch

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:17 pm

2-0 Belgium.
Meanwhile, cheating and moaning Tunisians get their cumuppance with penalty appeals waved away and a booking for complaining.
Now 2-1!

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:18 pm

KRBFC wrote:Another terrible mismatch

Oh shut up you tart

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:24 pm

KRBFC wrote:Another terrible mismatch

They're seeded 21st in the world. By your suggestions that only the best teams should be at the world cup then surely they should be.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:33 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Goal difference counts, yes? I`m amazed that more wasn`t/hasn`t been made of the Belgians only scoring 3 against Panama. It is a huge opportunity for us to SURELY have a better goal difference than them thus ensuring a draw will guarantee first place in the group. Am I wrong to think we should be hitting 4 or 5 at least against Panama (yeah I know we have been dire for 20 years serially bottle it, disappointment flows through the veins and I`m already preparing for the vacuum of despair soon to envelop me)?

I think because of the teams in Group H whether we come 1st or 2nd isnt as bigger deal as it might have been. Plus with Brazil & Germany not guaranteed to win their groups and Japan and Senegal winning its really unclear whether 1st or 2nd would gave us the best path to the Semi's

By the time we play Belgium it will be more clear and might add that extra edge to the game if coming top matters