World cup thread

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:37 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Obviously, but the logistical issues will still be the same, if not worse given there is another 16 teams next time round.

True, which is stupid enough already. But this is FIFA's fault. Not the fault of the teams involved. If FIFA don't want teams carving up their final matches to gain favourable knockout fixtures then they're the ones who can do something about it. We can't be blaming the players for trying to make it easier for themselves to win the competition.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:43 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:True, which is stupid enough already. But this is FIFA's fault. Not the fault of the teams involved. If FIFA don't want teams carving up their final matches to gain favourable knockout fixtures then they're the ones who can do something about it. We can't be blaming the players for trying to make it easier for themselves to win the competition.

Who's blaming the players?

To be fair, there's not a great deal they can do with groups of four and two teams going through and it's not that often that we've had these situations in tournaments.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:52 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Who's blaming the players?

To be fair, there's not a great deal they can do with groups of four and two teams going through and it's not that often that we've had these situations in tournaments.

I didn't say anyone was blaming the players. I was just making my point.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:55 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I didn't say anyone was blaming the players. I was just making my point.

Doesn't saying "we can't be blaming the players" at least imply that someone might be blaming the players?

If not what's the point in saying it?

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:57 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:True, which is stupid enough already. But this is FIFA's fault. Not the fault of the teams involved. If FIFA don't want teams carving up their final matches to gain favourable knockout fixtures then they're the ones who can do something about it. We can't be blaming the players for trying to make it easier for themselves to win the competition.

Just look at the Japan game. Weren't even vaguely interested in attacking in the latter half of the game in case they picked up a booking. Complete farce

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:01 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:Just look at the Japan game. Weren't even vaguely interested in attacking in the latter half of the game in case they picked up a booking. Complete farce

I watchded both the games. I don't blame Japan.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:05 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I watchded both the games. I don't blame Japan.

They took a massive gamble though and were praying that the other game went in their favour. One goal in the wrong net and they would have rued all the time they wasted.

But sometimes the gambler comes out on top...

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:16 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:They took a massive gamble though and were praying that the other game went in their favour. One goal in the wrong net and they would have rued all the time they wasted.

But sometimes the gambler comes out on top...

It wasn't that big a gamble. They had to consider the possibilities.

Possibility #1: Everything stays as it is and they go through.
#2: They score and they go through
#3 they concede and they go out on GD

Those are the only things they had any effect on. If Japan pressed for a goal and then conceded then it would be Senegal playing keep-ball and just doing everything not to concede again. As far as i'm concerned Japan did the right thing to maximise the probability of them going through once Senegal had conceded.

Yes it is a bit farcical, but that's because FIFA allowed for such a farcical situation to be beneficial to a team.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:28 pm

Tonight's game and situation was far more farcical than the Japan one.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:21 pm

Next up at 3pm France v Argentina BBC1

Like to see France win for no other reason that I’m not fond of Argentina.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:26 pm

Apparently if Argentina lose they have an easier route to the final.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:42 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Apparently if Argentina lose they have an easier route to the final.

How’s that then RB?

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:07 pm

Also never back a team who’s manager has tattoos plastered all over his arms

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 3:13 pm

Rileybobs wrote:Apparently if Argentina lose they have an easier route to the final.

Apparently if Argentina lose they have an easier route at the airport.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 4:53 pm

France 4 v Argentina 3 the best team win in an ill tempered match.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:08 pm

Next Uruguay v Portugal ITV 7pm. Might go to extra time this one.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:12 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Next Uruguay v Spain ITV 7pm. Might go to extra time this one.

Uruguay are playing Portugal. It's looking like another close one though.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:14 pm

This true FF

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:46 pm

I reckon goals again in this one

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:50 pm

MDWat wrote:I reckon goals again in this one

Well Uruguay are solid all over the pitch where as the Portuguese are more of a one man team so I wouldn’t like to back either in this one.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:51 pm

I think this one will be tighter. I hope for goals, but can't see anything like the last game.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:55 pm

Uruguay to win 2-1, and Ronaldo to miss a sitter right at the death.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:57 pm

chekhov wrote:Uruguay to win 2-1, and Ronaldo to miss a sitter right at the death.

How about a missed penalty?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:57 pm

2-0 to Ronaldo.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:00 pm

FactualFrank wrote:How about a missed penalty?

No. He's 3 yards out and chips it over the bar.
But honestly I could write any old nonsense.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:07 pm

What a bloody cross!

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:09 pm

Damn. That was a goal and a half

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:11 pm

Hope we don't meet Uruguay, if we progress.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:12 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Hope we don't meet Uruguay, if we progress.

We'll have to meet a top (first) team eventually, if we're to win the thing.

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:24 pm

Suarez cheeting again.
jumping infront of defenders legs to get free kick rather than playing

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:36 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Hope we don't meet Uruguay, if we progress.

I wouldn't mind, it'd mean we've made the final.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:43 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I wouldn't mind, it'd mean we've made the final.

They look a class above England, and defensively miles ahead!

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:44 pm

I fancy Uruguay to win it. Cavani and Suarez is some combination.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:45 pm

Suarez down holding his head with no contact for about three minutes.

Should be automatic yellow with VAR

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:45 pm

Why is Suarez clutching his head when he got elbowed in the back?

I hate this pantomime sometimes

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:45 pm

Suarez still cheating again.
Head injury - no contact to head

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:46 pm

Suarez holding his head, when the contact was made to his neck.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:46 pm

Uruguay. It’s just like watching Burnley. Defend from the front, every player giving his all for the team. If you like a defensive masterclass this is for you.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:47 pm

piston broke wrote:Uruguay. It’s just like watching Burnley. Defend from the front, every player giving his all for the team. If you like a defensive masterclass this is for you.

Yep. Portugal are basically hitting a brick wall when they attack.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:51 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Yep. Portugal are basically hitting a brick wall when they attack.

dropping back, but keeping shape. I'm loving this Uruguay performance,.
could do with less poncing around by Suarez though.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:56 pm

boatshed bill wrote:dropping back, but keeping shape. I'm loving this Uruguay performance,.
could do with less poncing around by Suarez though.

I’ve seen defending like this before.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:58 pm

Alas, if Uraguay get to the final it'll mean England have very little chance of winning the World cup due to the sheer gulf in class!

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:59 pm

Suarez, a poor man's Ashley Barnes.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:00 pm

Spijed wrote:Alas, if Uraguay get to the final it'll mean England have very little chance of winning the World cup due to the sheer gulf in class!

Aye.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:06 pm

Spijed wrote:Alas, if Uraguay get to the final it'll mean England have very little chance of winning the World cup due to the sheer gulf in class!

I'd rather face them than Brazil.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:14 pm

1-1. Might be Portugal yet.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:14 pm

Would rather face Portugal than Uruguay

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:16 pm

Ronaldo drops to the floor like a hotpot. Referee has none of it.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:17 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:Would rather face Portugal than Uruguay

I'd rather England faced Uruguay.

HunterST_BFC · Post by **HunterST_BFC** » Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:19 pm

Anyone else hoping Suarez gets his front teeth knocked out in an actual foul?