So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

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So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:55 pm

Is that why they were after Dyche ?

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:58 pm

I think i got laughed at for saying if Everton took Dyche i'd want Martinez. But i know nothing about football.
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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:00 pm

Dont think Everton was ever after Dyche. He was more their Nahki Wells as in a last resort cheap desperate back up plan if all else failed

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by tim_noone » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:00 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I think i got laughed at for saying if Everton took Dyche i'd want Martinez. But i know nothing about football.
Come on.....stick to politics!

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Petrol » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:02 pm

I want a thread.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Rumbletonk » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:06 pm

All about pushing De Bruyne forward, completely changed them as an attacking unit. Its poor management not to realise before now that you allow one of the best players in the world to do what he's best at

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:08 pm

Hes a decent manager. was at everton as koeman was.

But international managements a lot different. Much more about man management and psycology and both martinez and southgate are clearly excellent in this respect.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Millertime v1.7 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:11 pm

Lads, wise up eh. You're punters. The glitz and glam of professional football is worlds away from your salt of the earth sensibilities. Listen, I'm the first one to get a bit carried away with the 'i told you so' mentality. But at the end of the day you're not running a football club. So finish your pint and your pork scratchings and then get home before midnight.
See you on the 26th fellas

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:13 pm

Don't think they board backed him enough, they fans never seem happy I think they think there shd be pushing into the top 6 or at least challenging for that there & there abouts, haven't properly replaced Lukaku.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by ecc » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:15 pm

He got it absolutely right tonight. There's no point in asking Hazard to track back because he can't tackle. But he was a precious outlet when the ball was cleared because he can hold it up so well often resulting in being fouled which suited Belgium to the ground. He's melded a team, a real team. It's not easy given their plethora of midfielders and forwards. We saw the De Bruyne who was excellent at City. Fellaini, so often criticised but splendid tonight. They all played so well.
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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by tim_noone » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:15 pm

From Wigan to world cup semis...are you watching Owen?
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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by joey13 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:31 pm

ecc wrote:He got it absolutely right tonight. There's no point in asking Hazard to track back because he can't tackle. But he was a precious outlet when the ball was cleared because he can hold it up so well often resulting in being fouled which suited Belgium to the ground. He's melded a team, a real team. It's not easy given their plethora of midfielders and forwards. We saw the De Bruyne who was excellent at City. Fellaini, so often criticised but splendid tonight. They all played so well.
Yes let’s forget he got it wrong second half , and that but for Brazil’s poor finishing Belgium would be out
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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:33 pm

joey13 wrote:Yes let’s forget he got it wrong second half , and that but for Brazil’s poor finishing Belgium would be out

But they're not. Brazil are.
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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:56 pm

joey13 wrote:Yes let’s forget he got it wrong second half , and that but for Brazil’s poor finishing Belgium would be out
And if Pickford hadn't of save a pen and they hit the bar so would we.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by KRBFC » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:00 pm

joey13 wrote:Yes let’s forget he got it wrong second half , and that but for Brazil’s poor finishing Belgium would be out
If my nan had b*llocks she would be my uncle, if we finished bottom of the league last season we'd have been relegated.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:01 pm

KRBFC wrote:If my nan had b*llocks she would be my uncle, if we finished bottom of the league last season we'd have been relegated.
Your family tree must be interesting.
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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:49 pm

bfcjg wrote:And if Pickford hadn't of save a pen and they hit the bar so would we.
Exactly fine margins,Belgium were minutes away from going home a few days ago,now they are in a semi-final.If they go on and lift the trophy no-one in 20 years will remember their great escape against Japan.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:58 pm

tiger76 wrote:Exactly fine margins,Belgium were minutes away from going home a few days ago,now they are in a semi-final.If they go on and lift the trophy no-one in 20 years will remember their great escape against Japan.
Exactly it's here & now we are dealing with, you're only as good as you're last game & right now the stakes are high the margins are very small.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Dyched » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:05 pm

He’s been given a chance with a team that has the most talented players weve seen in England in recent years.

You can try play “football” with Wigan and get enough points. Like Eddie at Bournemouth and 17th is success.

The problems start when you go to a club and you need to pick up 3 points regularly. Thats why he failed. Mediocre players cant play “football” and pick points up regulary in the PL.

Anyway. He plays Kompany. They will not win the World Cup.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by bodge » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:06 pm

Knows what he's doing does Martinez, inspired choice of No2 in Henry who can be the communication conduit to the dressing room.

Dave Whelan, he's the bloke who broke his leg in a Cup Final for the uniniated, really likes Roberrrrrrrto.

Comes across as a top bloke.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:32 pm

bodge wrote:Knows what he's doing does Martinez, inspired choice of No2 in Henry who can be the communication conduit to the dressing room.

Dave Whelan, he's the bloke who broke his leg in a Cup Final for the uniniated, really likes Roberrrrrrrto.

Comes across as a top bloke.
Spot on. The appointment of Henry was a master stroke.

Speaks the language that all of the players will speak between them (English and French) and while the players may question Martinez's credentials they certainly cant question Henrys. And if Henry respects Martinez then so will they. Its massively psychological as an international manager.
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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:44 pm

KRBFC wrote:If my nan had b*llocks she would be my uncle
Brilliant.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by Japebe43 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:49 am

Southgate would still be a mediocre club manager, just like Chris Coleman.. As said above, international football is totally a different skill set.

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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by joey13 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:35 pm

KRBFC wrote:If my nan had b*llocks she would be my uncle, if we finished bottom of the league last season we'd have been relegated.
Surely she would be your Grandad ?
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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by KRBFC » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:36 pm

joey13 wrote:Surely she would be your Grandad ?
Yeah I meant my aunt :lol:
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Re: So Martinez wasn't good enough for Everton.

Post by fidelcastro » Sat Jul 07, 2018 12:47 pm

It's possible that the World Cup Final could have two managers who have been relegated from the English Premier League!

Funny old game.

:)

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