£8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:44 pm

nyclaret wrote:Deal is off according to Chris Boden
let's hope we have a far better player to pursue

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by SGr » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:45 pm

Right now let’s crack on and try and sign a better player.
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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:45 pm

I can't say it was a potential transfer that excited me.
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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Siddo » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:48 pm

Surprised at how many people on here know more about Clucas than Sean Dyche......
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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:50 pm

Siddo wrote:Surprised at how many people on here know more about Clucas than Sean Dyche......
I know more about Sean Dyche.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Long Time Lurker » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:50 pm

FactualFrank wrote:It's a very strange term to use, especially as there's existing 'soccer' terms to use in it's place. It's clearly an attempt to come across as more intelligent, yet fails.
A player that transfers with a 25% sell on fee could be termed a quarterback.
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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Aug 05, 2018 4:55 pm

regardless of the extent of injury he may have or have had, if he can't start the season he's no good to us.
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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by DCWat » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:00 pm

FactualFrank wrote:It's a very strange term to use, especially as there's existing 'soccer' terms to use in it's place. It's clearly an attempt to come across as more intelligent, yet fails.
Yes that was the reason :lol:

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:02 pm

Failed medical or asking for too much money?

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:15 pm

so how far can this lad throw a ball?

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by mdd2 » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:50 pm

Also now in LET that deal is off

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by AshevilleNCClaret » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:56 pm

official.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sp ... f/?ref=mac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

hopefully we move on to our next target.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by mdd2 » Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:59 pm

AshevilleNCClaret wrote:official.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sp ... f/?ref=mac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

hopefully we move on to our next target.
You mean in January? Not much time now to identify, agree fee, agree terms, get medical done and signed on dotted line.
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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by IanMcL » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:06 pm

Oh well. If it's his knee good luck to the lad. If it is wages, off you go lad.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:11 pm

AshevilleNCClaret wrote:official.
http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sp ... f/?ref=mac" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
hopefully we move on to our next target.
Not official. And they don't even know the reason why.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by bfcjg » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:14 pm

I think we learnt from Wells . Big money and wages mean players have to be fit. Players and agents cannot have it both ways.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:15 pm

Meh, not right bothered.

We need a forward thinking, creative type to come in and give the team what it lacks, not an injured Clucas.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by KefkaClaret » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:16 pm

Good news, don’t think he’s that good to be honest.
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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Damo » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:32 pm

Hopefully we are just after a discount

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Steddyman » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:32 pm

Swansea fans seem really ****** off with the prospect of this falling through. Seems a fall guy for their relegation.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:40 pm

Lets get Woods from Brentford in now a year early. We would have only been after him next year. What with Cork, then Clucas...next years midfield target will surely have been him
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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Aug 05, 2018 6:42 pm

Steddyman wrote:Swansea fans seem really ****** off with the prospect of this falling through. Seems a fall guy for their relegation.
They seemed to think they needed the Clucas money for the lad from Brentford

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Goalposts » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:21 pm

yep brentford deal off for them..with clucas falling through...it was his salary demands that screwed it

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:32 pm

Dyche is a clever guy, not as clever as he thinks he is, but still, a clever guy.

When those comments came out last week about the market, and about players and agents who endear themselves to him with their approach to personal terms, it sounded to me like a barbed remark about someone in particular. Clucas would be the prime candidate. That is on top of the rumours from S Wales about his character. I'm speculating of course but it reminds me of a Grosicki style situation. If so, we're well shut.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by DCWat » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:47 pm

I’d assumed that they were more to do with Mawson.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Aug 05, 2018 7:51 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Dyche is a clever guy, not as clever as he thinks he is, but still, a clever guy.

When those comments came out last week about the market, and about players and agents who endear themselves to him with their approach to personal terms, it sounded to me like a barbed remark about someone in particular. Clucas would be the prime candidate. That is on top of the rumours from S Wales about his character. I'm speculating of course but it reminds me of a Grosicki style situation. If so, we're well shut.
Good point just wish he'd have let the rest of the recruitment team know so we didnt continue flogging a dead horse for another week

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Siddo » Sun Aug 05, 2018 10:30 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Dyche is a clever guy, not as clever as he thinks he is, but still, a clever guy.

When those comments came out last week about the market, and about players and agents who endear themselves to him with their approach to personal terms, it sounded to me like a barbed remark about someone in particular. Clucas would be the prime candidate. That is on top of the rumours from S Wales about his character. I'm speculating of course but it reminds me of a Grosicki style situation. If so, we're well shut.
I think he would be a good signing personally.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by RingoMcCartney » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:49 am

"Sam Clucas' transfer to Burnley from Swansea City in serious doubt with Ryan Woods move now in limbo"

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... a-14993705" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by deanothedino » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:56 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:Dyche is a clever guy, not as clever as he thinks he is, but still, a clever guy.

When those comments came out last week about the market, and about players and agents who endear themselves to him with their approach to personal terms, it sounded to me like a barbed remark about someone in particular. Clucas would be the prime candidate. That is on top of the rumours from S Wales about his character. I'm speculating of course but it reminds me of a Grosicki style situation. If so, we're well shut.
Clucas wanted more money, Grosicki wanted his gambling debts paid off. Maybe similar in that both involve money but they're not the same in terms of what it means about their characters.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by CnBtruntru » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:00 pm

Why do we not just go for Ryan Woods :twisted:

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:24 pm

I haven't got a clue how good Ryan Wood is, but Brentford have a great record of bringing players through. He would be cheaper, less wages, and a lot better prospect. It wouldn't be the end if he only played cameos this season, he can learn the Burnley way and kick on for next season.
In Clucas I think we dodged a bullet. If its true he wants more money, then I think he over rates himself a lot, and that alone would not fit into our mentality.
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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:25 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:I haven't got a clue how good Ryan Wood is, but Brentford have a great record of bringing players through. He would be cheaper, less wages, and a lot better prospect. It wouldn't be the end if he only played cameos this season, he can learn the Burnley way and kick on for next season.
In Clucas I think we dodged a bullet. If its true he wants more money, then I think he over rates himself a lot, and that alone would not fit into our mentality.
to be honest, we need someone who can walk into our first team such is our need for creativity, a prospect who can get the odd minute here and there isn't what is required at this point

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by tiger76 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:41 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:Why do we not just go for Ryan Woods :twisted:
Now that would really annoy the Swansea fans if the Clucas deal collapsed,and we signed Woods instead. :lol:

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:47 pm

Just read an article that quoted Sean Dyche as "having a long running interest in Sam Clucas"

Pity he didn't sign him from Chesterfield then at what would have been a fraction of the asking price now. :roll:

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by FactualFrank » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:48 pm

kentonclaret wrote:Just read an article that quoted Sean Dyche as "having a long running interest in Sam Clucas"
No sh1t.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by ecc » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:06 pm

Hi CrosspoolClarets

Could you enlighten me about your sentence, please?

"Dyche is a clever guy, not as clever as he thinks he is, but still, a clever guy."

"...not as clever as he thinks he is..."

Bit of a slight, there. what has he said/does he say to make you write that? Just wondering, like.

Cheers.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:to be honest, we need someone who can walk into our first team such is our need for creativity, a prospect who can get the odd minute here and there isn't what is required at this point
Clucas was never good enough to walk into our first team.

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by Vegas Claret » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:43 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:Clucas was never good enough to walk into our first team.
agree 100%

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Re: £8m bid for Clucas in - Nixon

Post by mdd2 » Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:03 pm

Strange one this as BBC say the deal fell through due to failing to agree personal terms. Seems odd to agree a fee have medical and then agree wages. Fee,wages and then medical would seem the usual way.

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