Ross Wallace

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:36 pm

Signs up with Joey and Marney at Fleetwood. Played 31 games last season for Sheff Wed, very good signing at League One level.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:40 pm

Better than our current, available, widemen.

bfcmatt · Post by **bfcmatt** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:41 pm

claretburns wrote:Signs up with Joey and Marney at Fleetwood. Played 31 games last season for Sheff Wed, very good signing at League One level.

Just had a look on their squad list is that Wayne biggins son that plays for them?

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:42 pm

Interesting that thw two players who took a cut in earnings to extend their contracts at the Turf are now happy to turn out at League One level.
They obviously both still want to play football and will do a good job in that division.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:50 pm

Fleetwood look to have some good players for that level.
They’d have another one if the manager put his boots on.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:54 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Interesting that thw two players who took a cut in earnings to extend their contracts at the Turf are now happy to turn out at League One level.
They obviously both still want to play football and will do a good job in that division.

Interestingly I was speaking to someone last Sunday on way to Wolves who had been to the Fleetwood v Accrington game. He said Marney looked way off it and the Fleetwood fans don't appear to have taken to him.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:55 pm

piston broke wrote:Better than our current, available, widemen.

Dear oh dear, another player who has suddenly become a world star because he's not playing for us. How ever good or not so good he was, he was never ever popular with the Burnley fans. To suggest he's a better player than what we have now is stretching it.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 4:58 pm

piston broke wrote:Better than our current, available, widemen.

Wallace better than Gudmondsson? You've got to really hate the current side to believe that.

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:02 pm

piston broke wrote:Better than our current, available, widemen.

He wasnt that good when he was here. Lucky he was good at set pieces. Know a lot of Fleetwood fans and none rate Marney. The same fans also dont rate Long too highly

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:05 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Fleetwood look to have some good players for that level.
They’d have another one if the manager put his boots on.

Hear hear. Wish he was younger and playing in our midfield.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:05 pm

I take it he was a free agent then? I noticed I hadn't seen his or Boyds name featured much at all for Wednesday this season.

Wisswosswass · Post by **Wisswosswass** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:06 pm

A bit strange to suggest Wallace is better than our current crop. I don't think he ever suited Dyche's set up and certainly didn't seem capable of beating his man or tracking back.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:07 pm

Wisswosswass wrote:A bit strange to suggest Wallace is better than our current crop. I don't think he ever suited Dyche's set up and certainly didn't seem capable of beating his man or tracking back.

Strange though to suggest he didn't suit Dyche's set up too to be honest. Was in the team until he had to drop out for a knee op and when he was fit we were playing really well and he couldn't get back in.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:08 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Know a lot of Fleetwood fans and none rate Marney.

I'd just posted it, maybe Marney can't get back to the level of fitness he'd enjoyed previously.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:09 pm

I'd missed this until seeing this thread, article now on site

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Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Interestingly I was speaking to someone last Sunday on way to Wolves who had been to the Fleetwood v Accrington game. He said Marney looked way off it and the Fleetwood fans don't appear to have taken to him.

He will be used to that after his time at the Turf, particularly with the slating he took from a lot of fans in his early years with us.
I am sure that it will be difficult getting back into the swing of things after the two injuries he sustained and I wish him well.

Wisswosswass · Post by **Wisswosswass** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:29 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Strange though to suggest he didn't suit Dyche's set up too to be honest. Was in the team until he had to drop out for a knee op and when he was fit we were playing really well and he couldn't get back in.

I'm not knocking Wallace. I quite liked him, even if I am in a minority. Maybe the old dementia is setting in and I am thinking post injury.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:40 pm

I was at the game at Leicester when Ross Wallace scored the equalizer from a free kick in the 97th minute

Our supporters that day were unbelievable

Wisswosswass · Post by **Wisswosswass** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:44 pm

mkmel wrote:I was at the game at Leicester when Ross Wallace scored the equalizer from a free kick in the 97th minute

Our supporters that day were unbelievable

Worth it just to knock the smile off Nigel Pearson's face.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 5:46 pm

mkmel wrote:I was at the game at Leicester when Ross Wallace scored the equalizer from a free kick in the 97th minute

Our supporters that day were unbelievable

We'd lost the previous game 4-0 at West Brom with a depleted team. Wallace played at West Brom and it proved to be his last start for us. The free kick at Leicester was also his last Burnley goal.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:17 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Strange though to suggest he didn't suit Dyche's set up too to be honest. Was in the team until he had to drop out for a knee op and when he was fit we were playing really well and he couldn't get back in.

Was definitely a Dyche player but one of the best things that happened to us that first promotion season under Dyche was Wallace's injury as it opened the door for Arfield and Kightly to get the wide spots and form the midfield 4 that was the foundation of our success

Had Wallace stayed fit I think Dyche would have stuck with him and things could have been very different and not for the better

DBSport · Post by **DBSport** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Interestingly I was speaking to someone last Sunday on way to Wolves who had been to the Fleetwood v Accrington game. He said Marney looked way off it and the Fleetwood fans don't appear to have taken to him.

I was at that game and I thought Marney ran the game personally. He looks a class above the rest of their squad.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:41 pm

piston broke wrote:Better than our current, available, widemen.

Bet you’re one of those that reckoned Jones was a really good player ffs

theroyaldyche · Post by **theroyaldyche** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:47 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:He wasnt that good when he was here. Lucky he was good at set pieces. Know a lot of Fleetwood fans and none rate Marney. The same fans also dont rate Long too highly

He was a fantastic player for us

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:59 pm

theroyaldyche wrote:He was a fantastic player for us

Yep that good he managed 6 league starts in the two full Dyche seasons when were was a decent team. He was a poor Laws sighing who Dyche made into a reasonable squad player

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:20 pm

Wallace was okay.

I get why fans don't take quickly to Marney although I always liked him. For a midfielder his passing and shooting is below what you'd expect quality wise, although he did play some nice raking balls to the wings. What really sets him apart is the dirty work he does for the team, invaluable in that respect.

Both great signings for a team pushing for promotion in League one.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:25 pm

My main memory of Wallace and his time here is of him trying to tackle the man with the ball, getting there too late, realising he wasn't fast/strong enough and fouling him. Felt like it happened every game.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:33 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Dear oh dear, another player who has suddenly become a world star because he's not playing for us. How ever good or not so good he was, he was never ever popular with the Burnley fans. To suggest he's a better player than what we have now is stretching it.

Four so far but you were first.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 7:43 pm

So the piston was never broke?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:38 pm

Fleetwood are looking to play in Claret and Blue next season.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:11 pm

SGr wrote:Bet you’re one of those that reckoned Jones was a really good player ffs

He was a good player for us.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:19 pm

A bit strange to claim Wallace couldn't beat a man, when from what I've seen neither can JBG or Lennon.
I know they are better players, I just wish they had the confidence to show it once in a while.

tim_noone · Post by **tim_noone** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:29 pm

I liked Ross Wallace and liked him more when he came over to my grandson at an evening game at Barnsley and had a photo taken with him.some moments matter more than others.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:37 pm

[quote="claretburns"]Signs up with Joey and Marney at Fleetwood. Played 31 games last season for Sheff Wed, very good signing at League One level.[/

31 appearances for Wednesday? well they must have had the other 9 outfielders doing most of the running for him.

Scored the odd good goal from free kicks but spent most of the time fouling someone then moaning about it. Just like Lennon is now he hardly ever went past the full back.

A complete liability at away games I was delighted when we got rid.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 9:42 pm

Cut the ball back for Danny Ings to net the winner at Deadwood.

Great contribution for me.

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:11 pm

Seemed rather overweight as well for a winger.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:21 pm

SGr wrote:Bet you’re one of those that reckoned Jones was a really good player ffs

Anyone with any understanding of the game could see Jones was a really good player

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:29 pm

Maybe he meant David Jones in the Casper era

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:32 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Anyone with any understanding of the game could see Jones was a really good player

David Jones and Dean Marney are the sort of players that because for 90 mins they aren't slicing a ball through 5 opposition players or banging a 30 yarder into the top corner every other game people don't appreciate but the moment they're suspended or injured people appreciate their importance to the team, similar to players such as James Milner and Michael Carrick.

And to think for a while people wanted Ulvestad playing instead of Jones

Bullabill · Post by **Bullabill** » Fri Sep 21, 2018 10:57 pm

I like Ross. He did a good job for us and I hope he does well for Joey.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:23 pm

ClaretTony wrote:Anyone with any understanding of the game could see Jones was a really good player

That is something I will never agree with.

PS please don’t delete my comment cos you disagree with it xx

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:25 pm

claretburns wrote:David Jones and Dean Marney are the sort of players that because for 90 mins they aren't slicing a ball through 5 opposition players or banging a 30 yarder into the top corner every other game people don't appreciate but the moment they're suspended or injured people appreciate their importance to the team, similar to players such as James Milner and Michael Carrick.

And to think for a while people wanted Ulvestad playing instead of Jones

Jones and Marney were very different players. Marney was miles ahead of him. Jones was a good servant, but was lower championship standard at best.

The comparisons you make with Marney were fair - but it says something when people always talk about Jones, His merits are always “being a part of that team”, as opposed to his own performances.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:41 pm

Probably says more about the people who specifically target Jones to criticize him, then it does about us who say he was vital to the team.

He did the simple things well, but the simple people can't see it because they don't want too.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 2:45 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:Probably says more about the people who specifically target Jones to criticize him, then it does about us who say he was vital to the team.

He did the simple things well, but the simple people can't see it because they don't want too.

Westwood does the simple things well. He did the simple things very averagely. You can call me “simple” all you like but I do not believe he was at all vital to the team.

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 4:20 pm

Yet he played the majority of our games

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:02 pm

Not the best of starts !!

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:08 pm

expoultryboy wrote:Not the best of starts !!

Why? I know they lost but he only came on as sub after an hour

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:10 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:Why? I know they lost but he only came on as sub after an hour

he got sent off !

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:10 pm

Sent off in injury time after coming on for Deano

Cleveleys_claret · Post by **Cleveleys_claret** » Sat Sep 22, 2018 5:12 pm

Wasnt that James Wallace?