The policing of speech continues in the UK

[Imploding Turtle]

yes you do though , it is literally all around us. I see it every single time I do any contracting work on a University campus.

You think university students control an entire political idea?

[ClaretMoffitt]

You think university students control an entire political idea?

I dont know who controls it, I do know though that the hysterical leftism that have become such a feature in society today seems to stem largely from that area.

[Imploding Turtle]

I dont know who controls it, I do know though that the hysterical leftism that have become such a feature in society today seems to stem largely from that area.

Ah yes. We're all hysterical lefties. Everyone who's a lefty and feels strongly about something is angry and hysterical.

[ClaretAndJew]

If leftism was so prominent wouldn't we all be living under a leftist government?

[Rick_Muller]

I bet it would be fun to get you two sitting in a quiet pub somewhere to have a chat, I’ll buy...

[morpheus2]

Well I was in Costa the other day for my daily dose double espressos and was served by a what I can only describe as a boy dressed up as a girl dressed up as a boy dressed up as a girl with a small beard which may or may not have been real....if I was to talk about about this human to somebody for any reason whatsoever I would be genuinely stumped as to what pronoun I am supposed to use.....she/he/her/he all look poised to trigger.
Am I supposed to refer to this person as 'it' if I am not aware of how this person wants to be identified? Serious question.

[ClaretAndJew]

Well I was in Costa the other day for my daily dose double espressos and was served by a what I can only describe as a boy dressed up as a girl dressed up as a boy dressed up as a girl with a small beard which may or may not have been real....if I was to talk about about this human to somebody for any reason whatsoever I would be genuinely stumped as to what pronoun I am supposed to use.....she/he/her/he all look poised to trigger.
Am I supposed to refer to this person as 'it' if I am not aware of how this person wants to be identified? Serious question.

Just say what you want. No one cares.

[ClaretMoffitt]

I bet it would be fun to get you two sitting in a quiet pub somewhere to have a chat, I’ll buy...

Ive offered a few times to be honest be he keeps telling me to **** off

[Imploding Turtle]

Ive offered a few times to be honest be he keeps telling me to **** off

In my hysterical way.

[ClaretMoffitt]

In my hysterical way.

Nothing a pint wouldn't sort out

[TheFamilyCat]

Nothing a pint wouldn't sort out

Airy fairy liberals don't drink big manly pints. Get him a nettle tea.

[lovebeingaclaret]

So how are the police, teachers and media types "politicians" as opposed to taxi-drivers, central heating engineers or some Burnley slob sitting in Spoons of a Friday afternoon ?

I am surprised that the lefties on here haven't castigated the remark regarding a Burnley resident who may be having a quiet drink with his mother.

Or do I misunderstand and its only the lefty that can be rude these days.

Please if you agree with this post don't applaud, just wave your hands about.

[ClaretAndJew]

I'll gladly grab drinks with anyone. If only so I can give you a big cuddle.

[ClaretMoffitt]

Airy fairy liberals don't drink big manly pints. Get him a nettle tea.

I'll stretch a glass of soy milk.

[ClaretMoffitt]

I'll gladly grab drinks with anyone. If only so I can give you a big cuddle.

All the UTC's political nutters in the boot on a Thursday while PMQ's is on arguing over a pint of ale.

Imagine

[morpheus2]

Just say what you want. No one cares.

What if the person in question cares? Should I not respect its wishes? What if the person in question had short changed me and I struck up a conversation with my girlfriend along the lines of -

"hey, I think the serving person has short changed me!"

"Oh did...the serving person?"

"Yes I think the serving person did, I'll go and have a word with the serving person in question"

"which serving person was it, and why you behaving like a dick, the serving person might not identify as 'serving person'?"

"it's the serving person that looks like a boy dressed up as a girl dressed up as a boy dressed up as a girl with a small beard which may or may not be real, and because I AM a dick"

"oh"

[ClaretAndJew]

All the UTC's political nutters in the boot on a Thursday while PMQ's is on arguing over a pint of ale.

Imagine

I think the comfort of a forum makes it easier for us to say things we generally wouldn't in person. At least for me anyway. My Mum and Uncle are quite right wing in their thinking, working class, brought up with nowt type of deal. I get on with them fine as I imagine getting on with people on here fine regardless of political opinion.

[ClaretAndJew]

What if the person in question cares? Should I not respect its wishes? What if the person in question had short changed me and I struck up a conversation with my girlfriend along the lines of -

"hey, I think the serving person has short changed me!"

"Oh did...the serving person?"

"Yes I think the serving person did, I'll go and have a word with the serving person in question"

"which serving person was it, and why you behaving like a dick, the serving person might not identify as 'serving person'?"

"it's the serving person that looks like a boy dressed up as a girl dressed up as a boy dressed up as a girl with a small beard which may or may not be real, and because I AM a dick"

"oh"

I think the point is, as long as you don't go out of your way to be malicious towards someone then you are fine to refer to anyone as whatever you want. We're not all walking around waiting to be offended. A portion of this is on the person who would be offended". If you called someone a girl who identified as a guy but you didn't know, that's not you doing anything wrong, that's on them to keep their emotions in check. If they explain to you that they identify as something else and you constantly call them the opposite then that's on you.

It's sort of why you don't go around and call someone gay, even if they may stereotypically "look gay" you probably wouldn't ask them about their boyfriend.

[Spiral]

I'm going to make this remarkably simple for folk; if you're unsure whether a person is a man or woman, use the pronouns them/they/theirs. That way you don't stumble into treating someone as though they're an inanimate object.

[Imploding Turtle]

I'm going to make this remarkably simple for folk; if you're unsure whether a person is a man or woman, use the pronouns them/they/theirs. That way you don't stumble into treating someone as though they're an inanimate object.

But what if some people want to treat others like they're inanimate objects?

[Morrisminor]

In my oppinion most people do not realise what is realy going on. I think its all about the real powers ie the real controllers of the money and thats not Thereas May.
There is an agenda to divide people and one of the tools used is Labels. Just look at all the variouse platforms there is at the moment.World migration is also encouraged. These are just a few examples of division.

The end game is to enforce new laws and controll the masses whilst we all blame each other rather than see whats is behind the scenes.
Its all about the money. Divide the people (brain wash them) and controll is easier.

[Long Time Lurker]

"hey, I think the serving person has short changed me!"

"Oh did...the serving person?"

"Yes I think the serving person did, I'll go and have a word with the serving person in question"

"which serving person was it'?"

"the vertically challenged one"