Bobby [Moore]. [2016]

[hampsteadclaret]

BOBBY; 18.25 - 20.00 BBC 2 TONIGHT.

The story of football icon Bobby Moore..West Ham United, England...the World Cup...his illness and more.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1dJSOU-CUk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; [video]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footb ... .html...DT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; article by Henry Winter.

[conyoviejo]

I could tell you a story about the twohat,but I shall refrain from doing so..

[ClaretAndJew]

I could tell you a story about the twohat,but I shall refrain from doing so..

Is it cause you don't have one?

[Funkydrummer]

I could tell you a story about the twohat,but I shall refrain from doing so..

Owt to do with a bracelet was it ?

[conyoviejo]

Owt to do with a bracelet was it ?

No,more like an autograph, or lack of one ..

[Woodleyclaret]

He wasnt even the best in his position. He was just the prettiest.
But playing for media darlings West Ham got you selected.
Jimmy Adamson was a great player but over looked for England caps.Joe Shaw who played for Sheff Utd was the best centre back of his generation and was also overlooked by England selectors.

[Siddo]

He wasnt even the best in his position. He was just the prettiest.
But playing for media darlings West Ham got you selected.
Jimmy Adamson was a great player but over looked for England caps.Joe Shaw who played for Sheff Utd was the best centre back of his generation and was also overlooked by England selectors.

I don't remember Pele saying Joe Shaw was the best defender he ever saw.

[hampsteadclaret]

He wasnt even the best in his position. He was just the prettiest.
But playing for media darlings West Ham got you selected.
Jimmy Adamson was a great player but over looked for England caps.Joe Shaw who played for Sheff Utd was the best centre back of his generation and was also overlooked by England selectors.

A lot of people in that film would have massively disagreed with you on that.

- it was a fine film - the two wives and daughter came across really well...some great interviews and excellent footage.

Surprising that neither WHU or England found any use for Bobby Moore after his playing career...that didn't really clearly come out.

[though I have my own thoughts on that]

[bobinho]

Interesting watch.

Remember watching something a few years ago that suggested the truth about what happened in Bogotá was known but wouldn’t be revealed. Think I remember Bobby Charlton being mentioned as someone who was aware of what actually happened. Anyone else remember this or did I dream it?

[Jamesy]

He wasnt even the best in his position. He was just the prettiest.
But playing for media darlings West Ham got you selected.
Jimmy Adamson was a great player but over looked for England caps.Joe Shaw who played for Sheff Utd was the best centre back of his generation and was also overlooked by England selectors.

FFS I cannot believe you posted that. Bobby Moore was class.

[cbwhu]

He wasnt even the best in his position. He was just the prettiest.
But playing for media darlings West Ham got you selected.
Jimmy Adamson was a great player but over looked for England caps.Joe Shaw who played for Sheff Utd was the best centre back of his generation and was also overlooked by England selectors.

Sir Alf Ramsey: 'If people say England would not have won the World Cup without me as manager, I can say it would have been impossible without Bobby Moore as captain. He was the heartbeat of the team in 1966. He was my right-hand man, my lieutenant on the field, a cool calculated footballer I could trust with my life.'

Brian Clough: 'He did our game proud. He brought it grace and elegance. I wish I could have worked with him.'

Denis Law: 'He was an immaculate defender who did not need to foul to win the ball. I don't think he kicked a player intentionally in his life. He was a good tackler but rarely needed to because he picked up the ball before you could get to it.'

Sir Alex Ferguson: ‘Moore was the finest defender I have ever seen’

George Best: ‘I remember I once scored a hattrick against West Ham and I half sold him a dummy, that was the only time I ever got anything out of him, I should have hated him instead of loving him’

Franz Beckenbauer: ‘Bobby Moore was the greatest defender in the history of the game, Bobby was my football idol. I looked up to him. I was so proud to have played against him.'’

Jimmy Greaves: "He knew where an opposition player was going to pass it before that player even knew."

Pele: ‘Bobby Moore — he defended like a lord. Let me tell you about this man. When I played, I would face up to a defender, I would beat him with my eyes, send him the wrong way; I would look one way and then go the other. Defenders would just kick me in frustration. They would foul me because they couldn't stop me, or because I would confuse them with my movement. I would move my eyes, my legs or my body, but not always the ball. They would follow my move, but not Bobby, not ever. He would watch the ball, he would ignore my eyes and my movement and then, when he was ready and his balance was right, he would take the ball, always hard, always fair. He was a gentleman and an incredible footballer.

Jock Stein: ‘There should be a law against him, he knows what’s going to happen 5 minutes before anyone else on the pitch.’

Sir Bobby Charlton: ‘Bobby Moore is England's icon, and rightly so, He could both read what was going to happen before it actually did.
'It was beautiful to look at him when he played. Nobody tackled him. He just oozed class. 'He was just a brilliant defender, probably cultured is the right word. If he had to speed up a little bit he could easily do it.
If you were lucky enough to play with him, or against him, he was a fantastic player.

Inscription on his statue at Wembley Stadium ‘Immaculate footballer. Imperial defender. Immortal hero of 1966. First Englishman to raise the World Cup aloft. Favourite son of London's East End. Finest legend of West Ham United. National Treasure. Master of Wembley. Lord of the game. Captain extraordinary. Gentleman of all time’

or


Some bloke on a Burnley message board: He wasnt even the best in his position.

[Buxtonclaret]

He wasnt even the best in his position. He was just the prettiest.
But playing for media darlings West Ham got you selected.
Jimmy Adamson was a great player but over looked for England caps.Joe Shaw who played for Sheff Utd was the best centre back of his generation and was also overlooked by England selectors.

It's all about opinions.
Moore was a class act though.
Read the game and nobody could time a tackle better.
Even remember watching him play in goals once, at Old Trafford in a cup replay v Stoke.
He saved a penalty on a mud heap of a pitch!
Though couldn't keep out the follow up.