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O' Neill and Keane..

Post by hampsteadclaret » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:49 am

- have jacked it in.

That went well.

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Re: O' Neill and Keane..

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:50 am

Hendrick to blame

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Post by Bosscat » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:52 am

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Re: O' Neill and Keane..

Post by ClaretTony » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:01 am

I'm sure the Ireland team will benefit from this

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:11 am

Shame. They have done well. But this is as poor a pool of players as I ever remember them having to choose from. So probably as good a move for them as it is Ireland.

Maybe someone with new ideas might come in and change it but i doubt it.

Seriously lacking in talent right now.

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Post by TVC15 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:33 am

Mick McCarthy coming back looks favourite. Those calling for a complete change are touting the Dundalk manager who has done really well (think it’s Dundalk).
Tony Cascarino just on radio talking about it - does not sound like O’Neils biggest fan - he said O’Neil was very intolerant with ex players who had a view and rude with the press.
I bet press conferences with O’Neil and Keane were a barrel of f’in laughs....both wrong uns in my book.

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Post by Foulthrow » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:37 am

I'm sure I'll get shot down for this so I'll put my tin hat on first but .....

If SD ever left I wouldn't object to O'Neill taking over. Not so much Keane though.
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:37 am

It's gone tits up over the past year with them, players falling out with Keane hasn't helped and O'Neill is yesterday's man now in my view.
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:39 am

Foulthrow wrote:I'm sure I'll get shot down for this so I'll put my tin hat on first but .....

If SD ever left I wouldn't object to O'Neill taking over. Not so much Keane though.
agree completely. Good manager. Seems a good man. And almost always overachieves with a limited squad. Clearly struggled since the last Euros though.
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Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:39 am

66 Years old now is O'Neill...as Tony says yesterday's man
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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:39 am

My main concern now is how are we going to get updates on our injured players!?
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Post by Blackrod » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:40 am

These two along with Gordon Strachan were always my favourites in post match press conferences when things hadn't gone well.
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Post by Bosscat » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:41 am

I think the writing was on the wall a while ago looking at the Stephen Ward Whatsapp fallout affair in September.

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Post by Dy1geo » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:16 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:66 Years old now is O'Neill...as Tony says yesterday's man

Roy Hodgson is 71 and did all right last year

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:19 pm

Dy1geo wrote:Roy Hodgson is 71 and did all right last year
Ranieri also 65 when he won the league. 7 years younger than what Fergie was when he last did it!

Age is just a number, especially when you are good at what you do!
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Post by Longsidelenny » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:29 pm

O’Neill and Roy Keane got together 2 years ago in a meeting and said to each other the first time Jeff Hendrick plays well we are off got told he was the man of the match the other night well done for keeping your promise lads

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Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:08 pm

Longsidelenny wrote:O’Neill and Roy Keane got together 2 years ago in a meeting and said to each other the first time Jeff Hendrick plays well we are off got told he was the man of the match the other night well done for keeping your promise lads
I heard Dyche also made that pact but about Hendrick for Burnley so it doesn't look like our Sean will have a reason to leave us anytime soon!!

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Post by beddie » Wed Nov 21, 2018 1:14 pm

The worst combination ever. I bet the current players are pleased.

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Post by Tribesmen » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:19 pm

Goodness the Irish set up was as bad as it's ever been in the end they had to go to be honest . Now not sacked but sure there must be some pay off somewhere knowing our lot .
O'Neill has had his chips really , maybe a Championship outfit at best , hey should have gone to Stoke when they wanted him last year .
As for Keane ( the Tea Boy ) really can't see what's in store for him as he just has not got it anymore , but don't think he was ever up to it as a manager .
We have six managers which the media think have a chance Mick Mc seems to be # 1 but I did smile at Fat Sam on the list , hey we will see .

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:24 pm

To be fair their current squad is abysmal. I would be surprised if anyone could make a difference.

With the possible exception of Seamus Coleman, they havent one player who would get near any other decent international side.

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:25 pm

Tribesmen wrote:Goodness the Irish set up was as bad as it's ever been in the end they had to go to be honest . Now not sacked but sure there must be some pay off somewhere knowing our lot .
O'Neill has had his chips really , maybe a Championship outfit at best , hey should have gone to Stoke when they wanted him last year .
As for Keane ( the Tea Boy ) really can't see what's in store for him as he just has not got it anymore , but don't think he was ever up to it as a manager .
We have six managers which the media think have a chance Mick Mc seems to be # 1 but I did smile at Fat Sam on the list , hey we will see .
Who would you personally want Tribesman?

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Post by piston broke » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:28 pm

They’ve been dealt a very poor hand. Gone in a short time from Robbie Keane, Shane Long and Jon Walters, who all scored international goals to Robinson & Maguire from Nobenders who don’t.
Any defence with Keogh in it is going to struggle.
Players win matches not managers.

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Post by jrgbfc » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:55 pm

Problem with playing such poor football is that fans will just about tolerate it if it's getting results but if results turn you're under pressure immediately. That's what the likes of Allardyce, Pulis and to a lesser extent Dyche have found out.

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Post by derryclaret » Wed Nov 21, 2018 2:58 pm

The straw that broke the camels back was the game against Northern Ireland, I sat and watched a team that on paper was inferior, technically and tactically outplay us from start to finish, no going back from that.
As for the future, I would love to see Stephen Kenny get the job, best domestic manager in a long while, unfortunately the FAI is notoriously risk averse so I think Mick McCarthy is in pole position, whoever gets the job after a year of zombie football the only way is up.

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Post by FactualFrank » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:27 pm

Keane hasn't done well in management (apart from the first season in charge of Sunderland), but I do like him as a pundit on ITV, as he says it how it is. But I can imagine how players won't like him. One stray pass and it's hairdryer time. I bet he got on their wick.

Mick McCarthy would get my vote, if only for the humour aspect...
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Post by Sleeping Cat » Wed Nov 21, 2018 3:54 pm

Been on the cards for a while. They've had a lot of injuries to some of their better players, as well as seen a few good players come to the end of their careers but it hasn't been good and I can't think many Irish fans will be sad to see the back of them.

Good news for fans of Keane as a pundit (like myself).

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Post by Nonayforever » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:52 pm

My ex brother-in- law worked with all the premier League managers a few years ago and always said Martin O'Neill was by far the worst to work with, a very unpleasant man who was only interested in the money.

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Post by Nesnajttam » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:53 pm

Dyche for ROI..?
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Post by Clarets4me » Wed Nov 21, 2018 11:00 pm

I rather think Roy Keane's future lies within the confines of a TV studio, after this ... It seems he'd cause an argument in a phone box !

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Post by Tribesmen » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:02 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Who would you personally want Tribesman?
You may not like this idea but I think Wenger would be good for us .
Now as much as I like Mick you should never go back , Kenny has done very well with Dundalk but he blew out when he had his chance in Scotland and had the biggest job in the league of Ireland as he was poor with Rovers .
As for Big Sam hummmm not sure , he started out as manager of Limerick maybe he would see this as full circle for him .

Have a strong feeling that Robbie Keane or Duffer will be number two to whoever the FAI pick as it would keep the fans onside .

They seem to think this will be sooner than later also .

Watch this space .

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:59 am

Tribesmen wrote:You may not like this idea but I think Wenger would be good for us .
Now as much as I like Mick you should never go back , Kenny has done very well with Dundalk but he blew out when he had his chance in Scotland and had the biggest job in the league of Ireland as he was poor with Rovers .
As for Big Sam hummmm not sure , he started out as manager of Limerick maybe he would see this as full circle for him .

Have a strong feeling that Robbie Keane or Duffer will be number two to whoever the FAI pick as it would keep the fans onside .

They seem to think this will be sooner than later also .

Watch this space .
Wenger would be great in theory. But i doubt fans would have patience and i doubt he would be able to work magic with such a poor pool of layers.

McCarthy is probably the best choice for that squad. Especially when you look how ipswich are doing now.

Perhaps you could poach the other oneill...

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Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:30 pm

Allerdyce apparently declared his interest. Would be a great appointment imo.

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Post by edison » Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:27 pm

They should have walked after the 1-5 at home to Denmark. An entire year wasted.
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Post by edison » Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:29 pm

derryclaret wrote: unfortunately the FAI is notoriously risk averse.
Steve Staunton. Brian Kerr

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Post by derryclaret » Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:12 pm

edison wrote:Steve Staunton. Brian Kerr
:D :D :D

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Re: O' Neill and Keane..

Post by Tribesmen » Fri Nov 23, 2018 11:27 am

The Media seem to think Mick has the job , now myself never sure what the FAI will do but then again neither are they .

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