Brady

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:02 pm

TVC15 wrote:Think that’s a red - both feet off the ground and no attempt at getting the ball.

As for the worst could by a Burnley player since Kevin Ball challenge....mmmm....that’s just a bit silly !

As I said, hyperbole, but name a worse one. Almost 20 years to go at.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:03 pm

A 3 match ban isn't exactly ideal, his season has been stop start enough and Barnsley on Saturday would have been perfect to get another good 70 minutes under his belt.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:04 pm

already seen 2 worse tackles on motd tonight that weren't punished with reds.

Dodobdobodobo · Post by **Dodobdobodobo** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:04 pm

And Dacoure

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:05 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:already seen 2 worse tackles on motd tonight that weren't punished with reds.

Make that 3 now with Doucoure.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:05 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:already seen 2 worse ones on motd tonight

Shelvey should have gone. But I meant Burnley players. It's not our bag, which is why it's so odd as it's so out of character.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:06 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:Make that 3 now with Doucoure.

I'm on a stream. No spoilers!

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:07 pm

Dodobdobodobo wrote:A bit harsh when you look at Shelvey and Lascelles only getting yellows.

Don't think Shelvey even got a yellow

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:07 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:Shelvey should have gone. But I meant Burnley players. It's not our bag, which is why it's so odd as it's so out of character.

i know, i wasn't replying to you!

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:08 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:already seen 2 worse tackles on motd tonight that weren't punished with reds.

Just been saying the exact same thing to the missus. 3 with Doucoure.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:09 pm

Shelvey and Doucoure should have been sent off. So should Brady.

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:09 pm

I still think it's a red for Brady but, having just seen Shelveys on Pogba; again we question any sort of consistency from referees.

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:10 pm

Shelvies was the old fashioned run your studs down the calf tackle. ******* coward. Brady's was a stupid attempt to stop a man from carrying on going forward. Probably a red for being so dense next time Robbie watch do a luke shaw

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:10 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:As I said, hyperbole, but name a worse one. Almost 20 years to go at.

Bardsley made a worse challenge a couple of weeks ago.
Brady’s challenge when he got injured at Leicester was worse.
There have been many many worse challenges than tonight’s in the last 20 years.
And no i’m not going to name anymore !

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:10 pm

I just wish they'd all been sent off for two footing Jonathan Pearce.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:10 pm

Myself and those around initially thought the red card was for Mbenza following his reaction.

Will have to wait till I see it back before actually commenting on the foul

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:12 pm

Mbenza didn't even get spoken to after squaring up and being aggressive. Typical Mike "look at me" Dean.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:12 pm

Westwood should have taken out the man before Brady.

Brady was left in a bad situation, he couldn't just step across the man or trip him, the distance and momentum was against him. In a split second he made a decision, the correct one, to foul the man. You need players to make those fouls for you and I don't think Brady deserves any dogs for it. He's becoming a bit of a whipping boy.

There's absolutely no way that he wants to miss any further time out, he took that Red for the team, remember that.

Claret-On-A-T-Rex · Post by **Claret-On-A-T-Rex** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:21 pm

These things happen, he took one for the team. Better a red than a goal for Huddersfield.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:24 pm

Mbenza a lucky lad to stay on there

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:25 pm

both lads on motd agree its not a red.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:25 pm

Think it’s hard to argue with the red really. Got to consider the fact there’s zero attempt to play the ball as well.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:26 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:These things happen, he took one for the team. Better a red than a goal for Huddersfield.

Agreed.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:26 pm

Never a red in a million years. MOTD pundits agree.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:27 pm

MOTD pundits saying no red could help in any appeal!?

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:27 pm

On seeing the replay a few times now i’m not sure it’s a red - infact it’s 50/50 whether it’s a free kick

UTC !!!

KlyBfc · Post by **KlyBfc** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:28 pm

At home to Southampton last year (not the only example) a half hearted attempt to stop a break away led to them equalising. I personally have absolutely no problem at all with what Brady did.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:28 pm

Having seen it again on MOTD and seen some of the other non-Reds in other games, I'd say Mike Dean was trying to level the playing field.

If Brady's was a Red, what was Shelvey's on Pogba? Er... nothing !

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:29 pm

TVC15 wrote:Think that’s a red - both feet off the ground and no attempt at getting the ball.

As for the worst could by a Burnley player since Kevin Ball challenge....mmmm....that’s just a bit silly !

Some people have short memories... not quite as short as some debuts, mind!

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:30 pm

KlyBfc wrote:At home to Southampton last year (not the only example) a half hearted attempt to stop a break away led to them equalising. I personally have absolutely no problem at all with what Brady did.

Neither have I, it was a good decision and it deserved a booking.

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:30 pm

It isn't a red. It's a stupid cynical challenge. You see these sort of challenges to stop a man every game. If he was going for the ball then fair enough for the red but he's doing what they call a professional (taking one for the team) foul.

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:30 pm

I agree with the MOTD pundits, it wasn't a red, certainly a yellow. Mike Dean was very poor as usual.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:31 pm

I suppose all this "take one for the team" idea is that we are desperately frightened of Huddersfield's silky skills in open play, but when it comes to a dead ball and all their top goalscorers (defenders) get the chance to get forward, we can't possibly concede?

For me, quite apart from the yellow card, Brady put us in a worse position. Dead balls are where Huddersfield get most of their goals from.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:31 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:both lads on motd agree its not a red.

Fair enough. They've played the game. If they think it's not a red then who am I to argue?

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:31 pm

RalphCoatesComb wrote:Having seen it again on MOTD and seen some of the other non-Reds in other games, I'd say Mike Dean was trying to level the playing field.

If Brady's was a Red, what was Shelvey's on Pogba? Er... nothing !

Exactly about Dean. That's what I said at the time.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:32 pm

Foolish to give the ref the option to 'even things out' for the home fans. Home bias is a statistical fact.

Goodclaret · Post by **Goodclaret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:32 pm

Not a good night for refs at all - Shelvy, Lacelles, Doucoure and the Bournemouth lad all done more than Brady and all stay on the pitch!??

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:33 pm

Been better trying to trip him up as soon as you put both feet in the air you leave the ref little choice if you play for a club like Burnley!

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:35 pm

Wilfried Zaha has stars tattooed on his neck. What a bellend.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:35 pm

Goodclaret wrote:Not a good night for refs at all - Shelvy, Lacelles, Doucoure and the Bournemouth lad all done more than Brady and all stay on the pitch!??

Which means Doucoure will be available for the match against us in a few weeks time while Brady will be serving a suspension for a significantly lesser challenge.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:36 pm

dsr wrote:I suppose all this "take one for the team" idea is that we are desperately frightened of Huddersfield's silky skills in open play, but when it comes to a dead ball and all their top goalscorers (defenders) get the chance to get forward, we can't possibly concede?

For me, quite apart from the yellow card, Brady put us in a worse position. Dead balls are where Huddersfield get most of their goals from.

Yep, and how many set pieces have we conceeded in that sort of area? Off the top of my head recently: Everton, Liverpool - Liverpool last minute of a shirt pull last season to lose 2-1!

lucs86 · Post by **lucs86** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:36 pm

********, never a red. "Both feet off the ground" is a nailed on red when you're going to hurt someone, when you're coming into the tackle facing the guy you're tackling. It's a cynical leg up, absolute joke decision.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:36 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Been better trying to trip him up as soon as you put both feet in the air you leave the ref little choice if you play for a club like Burnley!

It’s actually quite difficult to run without picking your feet up.

RalphCoatesComb · Post by **RalphCoatesComb** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:42 pm

martin_p wrote:Which means Doucoure will be available for the match against us in a few weeks time while Brady will be serving a suspension for a significantly lesser challenge.

A very good point. Inconsistency needs to be ruled out.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:46 pm

Dyche had no qualms with it being a red and he is usually the first to complain.

WestMidsClaret · Post by **WestMidsClaret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:48 pm

He was probably ****** at the time. Let's see if he's still got that view tomorrow.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:48 pm

If he’d stayed on his feet and clipped him it would have been a yellow. Refs like Dean don’t need any encouragement.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:50 pm

Dodobdobodobo wrote:A bit harsh when you look at Shelvey and Lascelles only getting yellows.

Can't comment on Lascelles but how Shelvey stayed on is a mystery.

NL Claret · Post by **NL Claret** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:50 pm

Dodobdobodobo wrote:A bit harsh when you look at Shelvey and Lascelles only getting yellows.

Add in the Watford player.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:52 pm

boyyanno wrote:Westwood should have taken out the man before Brady.

Brady was left in a bad situation, he couldn't just step across the man or trip him, the distance and momentum was against him. In a split second he made a decision, the correct one, to foul the man. You need players to make those fouls for you and I don't think Brady deserves any dogs for it. He's becoming a bit of a whipping boy.

There's absolutely no way that he wants to miss any further time out, he took that Red for the team, remember that.

Sums it up.

Very clever from Brady. We’ve missed him. Had to do it. The man was moving away with pace. A (say) 25% chance of a goal became a 5% one from the free kick. Some are calling it a scissor tackle. I’d like to introduce them to a good optician.