When is a terrorist not a terrorist?

[Imploding Turtle]

I have already said to you, read your opening post that is your usual stance. You know like when there was the video going viral of the attack in Bradford, because the people carrying out the attack were non white, you failed to see the video for hours, despite you seeking anything online to be offended at on behalf of non whites. You are a hypocrite which I have said several times to you, but then it ends up with you quoting me with more dumb replies and to be honest I have better things to do than go back and forth with an internet troll.

Not sure what I would be scared of, anything you say is laughed at, just your hypocrisy gets pointed out, now would you like to try again and explain the whole point of your opening post seeing as you are the "adult"

Where have you got this idea of me as someone who gets offended by anything? Believe it or not, because i don't care, i don't get offended by much, if anything. All I've done here is make a post about how it seems like certain groups of people get away with not being treated as terrorists, even when they're sending bombs everywhere and shooting at politicians.

If anything it's you that has got offended by the idea that we're still dealing with racial and religious persecution.

Now, answer my question. Who do you think i'm defending? And why is it that I already know your answer is going to be wrong?

[Imploding Turtle]

"Imposing Turtle" living up to IT's name.

You really are a complete and utter tool

I don't think you know the meaning of the word 'imposing'.

[Bosscat]

I don't think you know the meaning of the word 'imposing'.

Oh yes I think you do know I do "Owen"

[Imploding Turtle]

Oh yes I think you do know I do "Owen"

You were one of those kids at school who were alright on their own with people, but then joined in with the bullies to bully their victims because it made you feel powerful. Weren't you?

That's exactly how you're acting right now. You've always been perfectly fine with me and I with you, but now you're showing who you really are.

[Bosscat]

You were one of those kids at school who were alright on their own with people, but then joined in with the bullies to bully their victims because it made you feel powerful. Weren't you?

That's exactly how you're acting right now. You've always been perfectly fine with me and I with you, but now you're showing who you really are.

[Imploding Turtle]

This guy might actually get bail because he's not facing terrorism charges

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/cl ... -terrorism" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Oh, wait. I'm not allowed to have an opinion until i've got the full facts. Aint that right, Paintsomething?

[thatdberight]

This guy might actually get bail because he's not facing terrorism charges

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/cl ... -terrorism" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Oh, wait. I'm not allowed to have an opinion until i've got the full facts. Aint that right, Paintsomething?

As I understand it, probably from the last time you made a very similar point about a very similar issue, there are legislative gaps in US law that make domestic terrorism charges very difficult to bring. Those gaps are long-standing.

[bobinho]

Terrorism.

Noun.

The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

That’s the definition of terrorism.

Trouble is, we just call everyone a terrorist, whether there is a political aim or not.

[Imploding Turtle]

As I understand it, probably from the last time you made a very similar point about a very similar issue, there are legislative gaps in US law that make domestic terrorism charges very difficult to bring. Those gaps are long-standing.

Pretty sure that's this case. Yes. But there are terrorism related charges that can be brought against people who plan terrorist attacks.

As it happens though this guy is only being charged with drugs charges and illegally owning suppressors. Nothing about his plan to commit a terrorist attack.
I'd love to know why. (Edit: I wonder from how high up in the DoJ this decision was made)

[Imploding Turtle]

Terrorism.

Noun.

The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

That’s the definition of terrorism.

Trouble is, we just call everyone a terrorist, whether there is a political aim or not.

No we don't. School shooters, work place shooters, pretty much all american mass shooters don't get called terrorists unless they have a political or religious or race motive. And even then some of them don't get called a terrorist. Dylann Roof is commonly just referred to as a shooter, not a terrorist. The attacks against a synagogue and various mosques (and in one case Sikhs) don't get called terrorist attacks.

I think the term 'terrorist' is underused, not overused. But feel free to link an example of two of when it was misused. Maybe i'm wrong.

[Dark Cloud]

When they kill people on behalf of he IRA it seems. (See "The Good Friday Agreement")

[SmudgetheClaret]

In America? When they're not Islamic terrorists, it seems.

Christopher Hasson, a white nationalist who planned to assassinate a whole list of Democrats, journalists, judges etc - no terrorism charges.
Cesar Sayoc, the MAGA bomber who literally sent bombs to Trump's enemies - no terrorism charges.
James Hodgkinson, the guy who shot at Republicans wounding Steve Scalise - no terrorism charges.
James Alex Fields Jr. deliberately drove his car through anti-fascist protesters, killing a woman - no terrorism charges.


Funny, eh? It's almost as if some people get treated differently to others depending on their religion or nationality or something.

the pipe bombs were fake like most so called white supremacist attacks !

Question for you Turtle ? were the Sri-Lanka attacks against Cristianity ?

[Imploding Turtle]

the pipe bombs were fake like most so called white supremacist attacks !

Question for you Turtle ? were the Sri-Lanka attacks against Cristianity ?

No. They were an attack against humanity. You can't attack a religion, only the people of a religion.

[thatdberight]

No. They were an attack against humanity. You can't attack a religion, only the people of a religion.

Your view, perhaps. Not a commonly-held view that you can't attack a belief system.

[Imploding Turtle]

Your view, perhaps. Not a commonly-held view that you can't attack a belief system.

Religions are just ideas. You attack them with other ideas. No one's ever bombed Islam or shot Christianity, or slapped Judaism.

People were harmed and killed on Sunday, not a religion.

But some people value religion more than I do so each to their own. As long as they don't value religion more than they value people then i don't really care.

[thatdberight]

Religions are just ideas. You attack them with other ideas. No one's ever bombed Islam or shot Christianity, or slapped Judaism.

People were harmed and killed on Sunday, not a religion.

But some people value religion more than I do so each to their own. As long as they don't value religion more than they value people then i don't really care.

I'll remember to correct everyone who opines that some action or other is an "attack on democracy".

[Imploding Turtle]

I'll remember to correct everyone who opines that some action or other is an "attack on democracy".

Democracy is a real process and can be disrupted by violence, propaganda, hacking, vote theft etc. But yes, when someone blows up a concert and people go on about it being an attack on democracy, or freedom, it does get tiresome. Likewise when we're sending young men and women to their deaths in wars for oil and the politicians and press say that they died protecting our freedom.

[elwaclaret]

In America? When they're not Islamic terrorists, it seems.

Christopher Hasson, a white nationalist who planned to assassinate a whole list of Democrats, journalists, judges etc - no terrorism charges.
Cesar Sayoc, the MAGA bomber who literally sent bombs to Trump's enemies - no terrorism charges.
James Hodgkinson, the guy who shot at Republicans wounding Steve Scalise - no terrorism charges.
James Alex Fields Jr. deliberately drove his car through anti-fascist protesters, killing a woman - no terrorism charges.


Funny, eh? It's almost as if some people get treated differently to others depending on their religion or nationality or something.

[South West Claret.]

In America? When they're not Islamic terrorists, it seems.

Christopher Hasson, a white nationalist who planned to assassinate a whole list of Democrats, journalists, judges etc - no terrorism charges.
Cesar Sayoc, the MAGA bomber who literally sent bombs to Trump's enemies - no terrorism charges.
James Hodgkinson, the guy who shot at Republicans wounding Steve Scalise - no terrorism charges.
James Alex Fields Jr. deliberately drove his car through anti-fascist protesters, killing a woman - no terrorism charges.


Funny, eh? It's almost as if some people get treated differently to others depending on their religion or nationality or something.

When he’s a freedom fighter as the saying goes.