O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by SmudgetheClaret » Thu May 11, 2017 9:42 pm

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by SammyBoy » Thu May 11, 2017 10:08 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:Sammyboy, your user name is one letter away from Sammbo.

Well, a few letters actually, but you can see how easily offended I am. :lol: :lol:
I've actually been called Sambo in the past as a nickname, but I'm confident that the people saying it had no idea of the racist connotations the word brings. In fact when I was at college I worked part-time on the butchers at Morrisons in Nelson and my manager kept shouting "Sambo" to get my attention whenever he needed me. I had to quietly explain that it's perhaps one to best avoid given how loaded a term it is, especially in front of a shop full of customers :lol: :lol:
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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by Garnerssoap » Fri May 12, 2017 12:59 am

This threads a cracker - read it earlier on at work.
Asked my black mate later on if he was bothered that some shop up north was selling golliwogs and he said he couldn't give one

Hope that helps
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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by dsr » Fri May 12, 2017 1:05 am

A lot of PCness is from people taking offence on someone else's behalf, not their own. I remember someone telling me they were advised in church not to mention a blind man as having something wrong with him; there's nothing "wrong" with being blind. But the blind lady in the congregation was more than willing to agree there is something "wrong" if you are blind - she wasn't offended by the idea that blindness is a bad thing.

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by ClaretAndJew » Fri May 12, 2017 1:06 am

Is your colleague the spokesperson for all black people?

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by dsr » Fri May 12, 2017 1:09 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:Is your colleague the spokesperson for all black people?
There isn't a spokesman for all black people. Black people have opinions of their own; they don't all think the same thing. :roll:

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by ClaretAndJew » Fri May 12, 2017 2:01 am

Thanks for clearing that up dsr

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by Claretmatt4 » Fri May 12, 2017 8:27 am

There's a very clear difference between these two things:

Being offended om behalf of somebody else.

Understanding why others might be offended by something, even if it doesn't offend you.

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by Garnerssoap » Fri May 12, 2017 8:28 am

ClaretAndJew wrote:Is your colleague the spokesperson for all black people?
kind of, he's Trevor Phillips

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri May 12, 2017 8:40 am

iluva64 wrote:Aren't Gollie's...............Western Oriental Gentlemen????

mine came on a jamjar
as mentioned previously on the thread this is not true. Whilst goolging for more info I found a definition for Backronym which explains the confusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backronym" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by SammyBoy » Fri May 12, 2017 9:27 am

Rick_Muller wrote:as mentioned previously on the thread this is not true. Whilst goolging for more info I found a definition for Backronym which explains the confusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backronym" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It doesn't make sense to me anyway, unless I'm just not getting it. Golliwogs are black? not oriental?

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by Steve1956 » Fri May 12, 2017 9:30 am

Like I said on another thread I called a guy at work a Welsh two hat he called me a racist ...I'm not by he way and he is!

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by ClaretAndJew » Fri May 12, 2017 9:48 am

Nice Indigenous Gentleman Gaining Evermore Respect

Been calling it them for years

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Re: O/T Genuine Question - Golliwogs, Racist or Not?

Post by BennyD » Fri May 12, 2017 10:02 am

Paul Waine wrote:Agree, my vocabulary won't meet the standards of the pc brigade all the time, either.

Claret and blue are great colours.
They are, but you are probably offending cold Red Indians.

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