If Gray goes who would you like in

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:04 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:There's so little football knowledge on this board it's painful.

Ironic.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:06 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:I doubt its any if the names mentioned going off what royboy claret said yesterday thats if hes correct of course

What did he say?

Zesty · Post by **Zesty** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:06 pm

Carlos Vela

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:11 pm

Preferably someone who can:
Trap a ball
Outpace big Wes Morgan in a 50/50 race
Get 50% of his chances on target

If we can find someone with above qualities we will have a far better player than the legend that is Andre. A legend in his own head.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:11 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Ironic.

I'd liken my knowledge of football to your knowledge of Land Rover parts, history, politics, the NHS, and every other subject you chip in as an expert on

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:12 pm

RVclaret wrote:What did he say?

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:13 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I'd liken my knowledge of football to your knowledge of Land Rover parts, history, politics, the NHS, and every other subject you chip in as an expert on

Can only imagine where this club would be with someone of your undoubted skill and knowledge in charge or at least being able to contribute to the running of the club.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:14 pm

Jimscho wrote:20% of any profit is£900k.18m-9m =9m profit.

Lmaooo

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:16 pm

Gray's replacement has to have pace at a bare minimum. We work well when we can knock a ball into space for him. People suggesting Long - I think he could do a job short term, but he's frustrating with his touch and offsides, much like Gray.

I'd love us to go and get a youngish lad, 26 max, with that pace to burn.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:16 pm

[quote="Reecey1987"][/quote]
Interesting. I'm certainly expecting some big acitivity in the next few weeks.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:17 pm

RVclaret wrote: Interesting. I'm certainly expecting some big acitivity in the next few weeks.

Heres hoping

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:17 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:I'd liken my knowledge of football to your knowledge of Land Rover parts, history, politics, the NHS, and every other subject you chip in as an expert on

In all fairness its only the motor industry that I generally give as close to an expert opinion as I can, I've even been mentioned by name and I try to be helpful where I can both on here and if contacted away from here because I'm not fussed about handing out my email address.

You've seen my list of experience from my career thread, so I can definitely best you in that area and I've done so quite easily when you were throwing a wobbly about a car manufacturer moving out of England, something you never came back too when you clearly realised you were losing that one.

As for the other stuff I give an opinion and I'm willing to accept I'm wrong on stuff, I've even said as such on here.

As for football, you're the one who's accused the owners of Burnley of failing in their duty as custodians of the club, so sitting there and saying there's a lack of footballing knowledge on this forum was massively ironic coming from you.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:17 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:Can only imagine where this club would be with someone of your undoubted skill and knowledge in charge or at least being able to contribute to the running of the club.

My 2 shares don't buy me that influence I'm afraid.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:20 pm

It just better not be Deeney.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:20 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:My 2 shares don't buy me that influence I'm afraid.

Did buying your two shares bring you any enjoyment? Because watching us doesn't seem to!

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:23 pm

Watching us play exciting, attacking football brings me so much enjoyment.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:24 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Watching us play exciting, attacking football brings me so much enjoyment.

P1ss off and watch Barcelona then.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:26 pm

Mattster wrote:Bobby Wood, not Chris Wood.

https://youtu.be/wBis99MJK1Q

The bundesliga outside Bayern and one or two others is very poor standard. And HSV have been one of the biggest underachievers for years. Wood is an average player in a poor team.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:26 pm

I'm not from Barcelona. I haven't been watching Barcelona since the 1980s. I haven't trekked down to Plymouth to watch Barcelona.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:27 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Watching us play exciting, attacking football brings me so much enjoyment.

Promotion not bring you any?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:29 pm

The exciting, attacking football we played against Bristol City, Brentford, Huddersfield, Charlton and so on was very good. Promotion as champions felt amazing.

Mattster · Post by **Mattster** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:30 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:The bundesliga outside Bayern and one or two others is very poor standard. And HSV have been one of the biggest underachievers for years. Wood is an average player in a poor team.

It's amazing how well Bayern and those one or two others do against teams from England given how poor their usual opposition is

I said he'd be a gamble fwiw but I see a lot of similarities to Gray who, when we signed him, was playing for a weaker team and at a lower level than HSV. I'd say he's far from average (also far from world class) but agree to disagree.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:34 pm

Its not amazing really. Given the squad they have. They rarely have to get out of second gear domestically.

Wood is average in my opinion. Replacing our most valuable striker with a player whos best season to date is the exact same as Rouwen Hennings - 17 in Bundesliga 2 is not a recipe for success.

LawsCanalJump · Post by **LawsCanalJump** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:34 pm

Vietto is available at Atletico Madrid

Jamesy · Post by **Jamesy** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:35 pm

dermotdermot wrote:It just better not be Deeney.

You mean the same Deeney that Dyche was attempting to sign two seasons ago?

The Troy Deeney that certainly knows where the net is. I would have him at Burnley in a heartbeat. He is injured though at present.

Jambounchained · Post by **Jambounchained** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:41 pm

Okazaki

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:44 pm

Bobby Wood?

hells bells, he isn't very good at all

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:44 pm

Dom wrote:In fairness, if you try and correct someone's maths and make an arse of it, you should be pulled up.

We saw that with your namesake Claretdom the other day. I agree.

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:50 pm

My horoscope this morning
"The grey cloud that has haunted you this year will lift bringing success for the future"

posted on the other thread I think we will end up with Isaac Success as part of the Grey deal.

Mockery can begin now

Mattster · Post by **Mattster** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:53 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Its not amazing really. Given the squad they have. They rarely have to get out of second gear domestically.

Wood is average in my opinion. Replacing our most valuable striker with a player whos best season to date is the exact same as Rouwen Hennings - 17 in Bundesliga 2 is not a recipe for success.

Regardless of your squad if you're barely tested domestically, as you're suggesting they're not, then facing stronger teams he results would more often than not be horrible. They're not and it can't be purely down to the squad.

Using a comparison to Hennings is deliberately misleading. I'd say his "best season" was probably last season, his first in the Bundesliga with 5 goals in 23 starts (a level that Hennings managed 1 goal in 10). At 24 (younger than Hennings when he signed for us) he's got plenty of potential and has the attributes to do well in England, albeit a gamble.

Who would your suggestion be to replace Gray cc?

LeuvenClaret · Post by **LeuvenClaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:56 pm

Who would I like in ....

@CB Scott Brown or Craig Dawson
@RW Jota or Snodgrass
@Striker Samuel Armenteros or Timo Werner

But think we will pay a rich dividend to the directors and a load of tax to the HRMC but have a right good go with nearly the squad we have.

Il Duce · Post by **Il Duce** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:03 pm

LeuvenClaret wrote:Who would I like in ....

@CB Scott Brown or Craig Dawson
@RW Jota or Snodgrass
@Striker Samuel Armenteros or Timo Werner

But think we will pay a rich dividend to the directors and a load of tax to the HRMC but have a right good go with nearly the squad we have.

Scott Brown... as a CB... ok.

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:06 pm

We should use the gray money to bring in a very good striker on a season long loan. Even if we blow it all on wages for one season we would still end up with the same amount if gray stayed and left for free at the end of the season. Brentford and Luton would prefer us to sell now of course.

Come on in Wilfred Bony

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:07 pm

Dawson - yes
Brown - who is he?
Jota - Yes
Snodgrass - No
Werner - Dreamland
Armenteros - No

Jeremy_Bentham · Post by **Jeremy_Bentham** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:08 pm

dermotdermot wrote:It just better not be Deeney.

. was speaking to Troy Deeney the other day. Deeney said he wouldn't like a move anywhere north of Birmingham so dermotdermot will most probably get his wish. . thinks Deeney would be a decent signing himself.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:12 pm

we'll end up with Robbie Keane lol

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:14 pm

what's Bobby Zamora up to these days ?

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:18 pm

Mattster wrote:
Who would your suggestion be to replace Gray cc?

See the opening post

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:31 pm

Jimscho wrote:20% of any profit is£900k.18m-9m =9m profit.

Yes I did get it wrong.For some reason I was thinking 10%.I do have eyesight problems but no excuse I got it wrong.So much for aGrammar school education and A level Maths.

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:37 pm

It will be an experienced striker with no sell -on value in keeping with the rest of this window. Dead-end street.

CombatClaret · Post by **CombatClaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:43 pm

ablueclaret wrote:It will be an experienced striker with no sell -on value.

No problem with that provided they help keep us up. A few million lost in re-sale value for another 100m gained, yes please.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:45 pm

There are people suggesting actual Champions League strikers here. International players. People forgotten they support Burnley or what?

Heads. Wobble.

Diesel · Post by **Diesel** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:46 pm

The lad at Bristol City, Famara Diedhiou, looks one Hell of a player.

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:47 pm

Patrick Schick.
Only 21,Tall, Fast and high potential sell on value. Plays for Sampdoria and has a £20m release clause,could be a steal.

Mattster · Post by **Mattster** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:50 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:See the opening post

Sorry, didn't realise you were the OP.

Shane Long is just umambitious IMO, no resale value and too much of a "safe" option which I don't think will be enough. Solanke looks good but he's even more unproven than someone like Wood in regards to first team football and I'd be loathe to develop players for other teams if we're not going to be financially rewarded for that. Afobe got 6 goals last season, 5 of those goals were against Swansea, Watford, Burnley and Middlesbrough - Gray got criticism for being a flat track bully and Afobe is worse in that regard. He'd also cost north of what we've got for Gray given it's Bournemouth and they signed him for 12m last Summer.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:50 pm

Slurpy wrote:Patrick Schick.
Only 21,Tall, Fast and high potential sell on value. Plays for Sampdoria and has a £20m release clause,could be a steal.

Juve triggered his release clause (30 Million Euros) in June. Granted, he's still a Samp player after failing two medicals at Juve. But you're hardly going to go from a medical with Juve to chasing aimless punts with Burnley.

IAmAClaret · Post by **IAmAClaret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:01 pm

There are some real 'meh' players available.....

Nahki Wells - Huddersfield will let him go
Jerome Sinclair - Watford (was talked about a lot then went quiet)
Leonardo Ulloa - Leicester

Personally, Afobe ticks a lot of boxes, and is seemingly available, although at a cost.

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:03 pm

HelloHiGoodbye wrote:Juve triggered his release clause (30 Million Euros) in June. Granted, he's still a Samp player after failing two medicals at Juve. But you're hardly going to go from a medical with Juve to chasing aimless punts with Burnley.

Yeah pipe dream

Slurpy · Post by **Slurpy** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:03 pm

Florin Andone

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:05 pm

IAmAClaret wrote:There are some real 'meh' players available.....

Personally, Afobe ticks a lot of boxes, and is seemingly available, although at a cost.

Yeah, Afobe's possibly the most realistic suggestion on the entire thread. Kind of proven in the Prem and would cost less than twenty million, you'd imagine. Isn't going to start for Bournemouth ahead of King and Defoe and seems to be no frills and Dyche loves no frills.