Clapping Banned at University

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:02 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:I've asked for threads to be shut down!

Who needs to ask the mods when you're around !?

As for admitting my mistakes. See post #23 above.

Jesus wept - I've asked for the threads to be shut down. Several times. For the reason stated above. What's wrong with you today ?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:13 pm

evensteadiereddie wrote:Jesus wept - I've asked for the threads to be shut down. Several times. For the reason stated above. What's wrong with you today ?

Bored now Eddie. Ta-ra.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:21 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:You’re going to make yourself even dizzier, Wrongo. You do realise that there’s a difference between claiming a victory and actually winning, don’t you?

This is brilliant !!!

You've managed to do what I said you were in danger of!

I said YOU were in danger of snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

In post #23 I admitted I'd included a spelling mistake in a post!!! I was wrong!!!

And yet your still here p1ssing on your own victory parade!!

You won. I spelt self- aggrandizement incorrectly!! I'm over it. For your own self respect, try and do the same!!!

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:40 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:

This is brilliant !!!

You've managed to do what I said you were in danger of!

I said YOU were in danger of snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory.

In post #23 I admitted I'd included a spelling mistake in a post!!! I was wrong!!!

And yet your still here p1ssing on your own victory parade!!

You won. I spelt self- aggrandizement incorrectly!! I'm over it. For your own self respect, try and do the same!!!

I know you were wrong. I’ve not changed my position on that. I just wanted you to know it fully. I think I have achieved my objective. I’ve also taught you that there are two ways to spell ‘aggrandisement’, and ‘aggrizement’ isn’t one of them.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:46 pm

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:46 pm

well that's obnoxiously large.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:47 pm

I haven't followed this thread but am I right to assume that some people have tried to portray this as the end of democracy?

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:33 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:They are "urging" people to use BSL clapping, they aren't forcing people to not clap, just suggesting alternatives, again, to be more inclusive to people with different needs.

What's happened? No one has read the article they've just frothed at the mouth and ejaculated in their politically correct knickers.

I know one person that hasn't read the article - you. The actual document showing the policy is printed, and it says "This Union resolves: to swap audible clapping out for BSL clapping at SU events ..."

There doesn't appear to be an English student on the committee for framing motions, but even so, it looks pretty clear that clapping is OUT, handwaving is IN.

And the general mockery isn't really about their political correctness. It's that not only this branch of the NUS, but the NUS nationally, are so very stupid that they think that a policy that marginally improves a deaf person's appreciation of applause, but entirely destroys a blind person's appreciation of applause, is a "more inclusive" policy.

They're students. They aren't supposed to be thick like this.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:39 pm

dsr wrote:It's that not only this branch of the NUS, but the NUS nationally, are so very stupid that they think that a policy that marginally improves a deaf person's appreciation of applause

If you think this is about making things better for deaf people then you haven’t read the article either.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:51 pm

martin_p wrote:If you think this is about making things better for deaf people then you haven’t read the article either.

No? I must have misunderstood what they meant by "sensory issues". Isn't that the all-embracing modern term for deafness, blindness, and presumably lack of taste, smell, or touch?

Obviously they are also trying to compensate for people who are afraid of loud noises, while ignoring the needs of people who are afraid of wildly waving hands.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:08 am

Lord Beamish wrote:I know you were wrong. I’ve not changed my position on that. I just wanted you to know it fully. I think I have achieved my objective. I’ve also taught you that there are two ways to spell ‘aggrandisement’, and ‘aggrizement’ isn’t one of them.

Lord Beamish - the hapless clown that went arse over t1t on his own lap of honour!!!

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:38 am

IFfs. Nobody cares except the usual frothy mouthed suspects. Three pages of utter dogger (althoughbto be fair i stopped at post 36 so it might have improved)

Dazzler · Post by **Dazzler** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:21 am

https://youtu.be/7aItpjF5vXc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:38 am

Slightly off topic..

The Universitites are failing these kids. Harsh lessons of life won't allow them safe spaces, micro aggression free areas, bowing to their screaming and shouting, being protected from ideas they don't like etc. Some of them are going to really hit the ground hard in the real world outside academia.

Inchy · Post by **Inchy** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:40 am

I went to Leeds Uni and I didn’t know anyone involved in student union activities. The people you saw knocking about organising union stuff were people with nothing better to do. Far to much drinking and shagging to be done.

Why anyone would be arsed about this is beyond me

SammyBoy · Post by **SammyBoy** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:56 am

The impression some people have of students on here is so deluded it’s comical. Yeah there might be the odd one that wants a “safe space”, whatever that is, but the overwhelming majority are normal people from normal backgrounds. Only 8 years ago when I graduated the problem at Unis was allegedly “lad culture”, now they’re all snowflakes. Stop believing the Twitter narrative.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:06 am

SammyBoy wrote:The impression some people have of students on here is so deluded it’s comical. Yeah there might be the odd one that wants a “safe space”, whatever that is, but the overwhelming majority are normal people from normal backgrounds. Only 8 years ago when I graduated the problem at Unis was allegedly “lad culture”, now they’re all snowflakes. Stop believing the Twitter narrative.

8 years ago is quite a long time ago. There seems to have been quite a shift in attitudes in general in the last few years.

I don't doubt that the majority do not get involved, but it's clearly happening and we see the results of it in the media quite regularly.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:44 am

No, there hasn't.

its always been like that for a minority of students. Its not a lefty conspiracy.

And if I've no clue about students at 45 (and having being one) what chance does someone who is older and hasn't been one have of understanding it?

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:50 am

dsr wrote:No? I must have misunderstood what they meant by "sensory issues". Isn't that the all-embracing modern term for deafness, blindness, and presumably lack of taste, smell, or touch?

Obviously they are also trying to compensate for people who are afraid of loud noises, while ignoring the needs of people who are afraid of wildly waving hands.

Yes, you have misunderstood what they meant by sensory issues. While it may well include blindness it also covers a whole range of issues typically to do with processing sensory information. In this instance, given the focus on clapping, the sensory issue in question is likely to be an aversion to noise as you've identified. I seriously doubt there's a single blind person who feels excluded by clapping, especially as they can see clapping as well as they can see 'jazz hands'. If people thought for just a second it would be obvious that, given the solution, the problem is too much noise rather than not being able to hear anything.

If you can find a medical condition to do with aversion to wildly waving hands then feel free to share.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:11 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:No, there hasn't.

its always been like that for a minority of students. Its not a lefty conspiracy.

And if I've no clue about students at 45 (and having being one) what chance does someone who is older and hasn't been one have of understanding it?

FWIW I am not older and I have been a student.

If you don;t think there has been a general change in attitudes in the last few years then I am suggesting that it is you who is out of touch. More than likely a lot of it is down to things like social media.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:30 am

Fair enough, but being in touch in Burnley is probably different to being in touch in Lancaster.

EDIT - and both are probably a long way of being in touch in Manchester as well

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:36 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Fair enough, but being in touch in Burnley is probably different to being in touch in Lancaster.

I know what you mean, but the world is a much smaller place now with the internet and social media and all the other information at our fingertips. It's far easier to stay in touch with what is happening.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:01 am

I feel somewhat disappointed. I don’t think Wrongo went ‘Full Ringo’ on my ass. I think he barely got out of 3rd gear.

Ah well. Life goes on.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:10 am

Lord Beamish wrote:I feel somewhat disappointed. I don’t think Wrongo went ‘Full Ringo’ on my ass. I think he barely got out of 3rd gear.

Ah well. Life goes on.

Yes you certainly showed him. Poor spelling, who would have thought. In bad company as well.

https://www.onlinecollegecourses.com/20 ... dnt-spell/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:15 am

Chobulous wrote:Yes you certainly showed him. Poor spelling, who would have thought. In bad company as well.

https://www.onlinecollegecourses.com/20 ... dnt-spell/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Are you really comparing Wrongo to a F Scott Fitzgerald, Earnest Hemingway, Albert Einstein et al?
If you feel you must to make a point, then knock yourself out.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:31 am

martin_p wrote:Yes, you have misunderstood what they meant by sensory issues. While it may well include blindness it also covers a whole range of issues typically to do with processing sensory information. In this instance, given the focus on clapping, the sensory issue in question is likely to be an aversion to noise as you've identified. I seriously doubt there's a single deaf person who feels excluded by clapping, especially as they can see clapping as well as they can see 'jazz hands'. If people thought for just a second it would be obvious that, given the solution, the problem is too much noise rather than not being able to hear anything.

If you can find a medical condition to do with aversion to wildly waving hands then feel free to share.

I don't think there's any restriction on what can be considered mental handicap nowadays. Personally, I think they're a lot too ready to tell a child "you have a handicap", leading on to "you can't fix it" and then "so don't try". There needs to be more of the old-fashioned "you have a problem, you need to learn to cope with it". If fear of loud noises is a handicap, then I wouldn't be too ready to cast doubt on the idea that fear of hands waving in your face might be one too.

[I changed "blind" to "deaf" in your quote, which must presumably be what you meant.]

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:57 am

Lord Beamish wrote:Are you really comparing Wrongo to a F Scott Fitzgerald, Earnest Hemingway, Albert Einstein et al?
If you feel you must to make a point, then knock yourself out.

Not at all, I'm saying there are better things in life than getting all smug about picking someone up on their spelling. That and the fact that the ability to be able to spell is not a litmus test for intelligence. Neither is constantly repeating a tired play on words.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:07 am

Chobulous wrote:Not at all, I'm saying there are better things in life than getting all smug about picking someone up on their spelling. That and the fact that the ability to be able to spell is not a litmus test for intelligence. Neither is constantly repeating a tired play on words.

I was just indulging myself in baiting Wrongo, that’s all. Maybe not get edifying for myself, but that’s not always my intention in life.
Wrongo is one of this Messageboard’s major f *ckwits(and he has some competition). The fact that he was trying to aggrandise(how ironic) himself by using a word he could barely pronounce(judging by his spelling of it) amuses me.
Then his defence firstly of calling me a nitpicker, then claiming it was a spell check error, then using the Internet tool he should have used in the first place to try and say I’d soelled the word wrong myself(erroneously, as it happens), then his mealy-mouthed concession of defeat were just an added bonus.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:22 am

Lord Beamish wrote:I was just indulging myself in baiting Wrongo, that’s all. Maybe not get edifying for myself, but that’s not always my intention in life.
Wrongo is one of this Messageboard’s major f *ckwits(and he has some competition). The fact that he was trying to aggrandise(how ironic) himself by using a word he could barely pronounce(judging by his spelling of it) amuses me.
Then his defence firstly of calling me a nitpicker, then claiming it was a spell check error, then using the Internet tool he should have used in the first place to try and say I’d soelled (sic) the word wrong myself(erroneously, as it happens), then his mealy-mouthed concession of defeat were just an added bonus.

I'm guessing you posted this from your phone and your thumbs are too big for the keyboard

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:24 am

dsr wrote:I don't think there's any restriction on what can be considered mental handicap nowadays. Personally, I think they're a lot too ready to tell a child "you have a handicap", leading on to "you can't fix it" and then "so don't try". There needs to be more of the old-fashioned "you have a problem, you need to learn to cope with it". If fear of loud noises is a handicap, then I wouldn't be too ready to cast doubt on the idea that fear of hands waving in your face might be one too.

[I changed "blind" to "deaf" in your quote, which must presumably be what you meant.]

Exactly. Very inconsiderate by Martin P towards minority groups. People with Alien Hand Syndrome could be offended and it can also affect people with behavioural issues and Autism adversely. Blinking eyes might get around this instead of hand waving but then it might offend someone with a twitch. Back to the drawing board.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:24 am

Lord Beamish wrote:I was just indulging myself in baiting Wrongo, that’s all. Maybe not get edifying for myself, but that’s not always my intention in life.
Wrongo is one of this Messageboard’s major f *ckwits(and he has some competition). The fact that he was trying to aggrandise(how ironic) himself by using a word he could barely pronounce(judging by his spelling of it) amuses me.
Then his defence firstly of calling me a nitpicker, then claiming it was a spell check error, then using the Internet tool he should have used in the first place to try and say I’d soelled the word wrong myself(erroneously, as it happens), then his mealy-mouthed concession of defeat were just an added bonus.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:25 am

Chobulous wrote:I'm guessing you posted this from your phone and your thumbs are too big for the keyboard

Indeed.

See, Wrongo? That’s how you graciously concede your human fallibility.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:26 am

I shouldn't like Lord Beamish post but I have.

One of the reasons I blocked him was that discussions like this end up making Ringo look really silly, and I don't think that is the case AND I don't really like reading that as it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:05 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:Indeed.

See, Wrongo? That’s how you graciously concede you human fallibility.

Says the clown that refused to accept his minor, spelling based, victory with dignity!

It took long enough for you to get on the spell checker winners podium.

When should we book the open top bus tour!?

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:12 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:I shouldn't like Lord Beamish post but I have.

One of the reasons I blocked him was that discussions like this end up making Ringo look really silly, and I don't think that is the case AND I don't really like reading that as it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable.

Not as silly as when you give it the "Christ on a bike Ringo!!!! It's not!!!!!"

When you claim that money that the UK receives as part of the European Union regional development fund, isn't our own money coming back.

Then I present you with-

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-memb ... 5-million/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This included £359 million that CAME BACK through the European Regional Development Fund and £2.4 billion through the Agricultural Guarantee Fund.

The UK gets money back

The government then gets some of that money BACK , mainly through payments to farmers and for poorer areas of the country such as Wales and Cornwall.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governme ... 2017-10-31" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Given these figures, ONS reports that the UK government's net contribution to the EU - that is the difference between the money it paid to the EU and the money it received - was £9.4 billion in 2016 as compared with the £18.9 billion gross contribution

You blocked me!!

The message board equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and shouting " I can't here You! It's no use! I can't hear You!"

When it comes to looking silly Lancaster Claret is top dog....

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:17 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:I was just indulging myself in baiting Wrongo, that’s all. Maybe not get edifying for myself, but that’s not always my intention in life.
Wrongo is one of this Messageboard’s major f *ckwits(and he has some competition). The fact that he was trying to aggrandise(how ironic) himself by using a word he could barely pronounce(judging by his spelling of it) amuses me.
Then his defence firstly of calling me a nitpicker, then claiming it was a spell check error, then using the Internet tool he should have used in the first place to try and say I’d SOELLED the word wrong myself(erroneously, as it happens), then his mealy-mouthed concession of defeat were just an added bonus.

Mr Stone. Let me introduce you to Mr Glass house!

Cancel the open top bus tour !

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:32 pm

That’s it!I think I’m getting the Full Ringo! Yay!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:43 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:That’s it!I think I’m getting the Full Ringo! Yay!

Don't flatter yourself Mr 10 thumbs!

1.0 and you ******** it up!

Toodle pip.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:50 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Don't flatter yourself Mr 10 thumbs!

1.0 and you ******** it up!

Toodle pip.

You’re funny. I’m not sure it’s intentional, but you are.

Ten thumbs?

selfaggrizement

Spam brain.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:53 pm

burnleymik wrote:FWIW I am not older and I have been a student.

If you don;t think there has been a general change in attitudes in the last few years then I am suggesting that it is you who is out of touch. More than likely a lot of it is down to things like social media.

It's completely driven by Social media, people are constantly checking they phones & other electronical devices with things beeping away right left & centre, schools are even clamping down on the use, used in the correct manner it can help education but it's getting abused & kids/students will ultimately fall behind in their studies, it's inevitable.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:16 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:I was just indulging myself in baiting Wrongo, that’s all. Maybe not get edifying for myself

"Maybe not get edifying for myself!?"

Enjoying your Devon Loch moment more and more

Toodle pip

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:17 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:That’s it!I think I’m getting the Full Ringo! Yay!

You haven't had the full Ringo until he comes up with a highly amusing bastardised version of your username.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:22 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:"Maybe not get edifying for myself!?"

Again Wrongo, you pick up on what are plainly typos(ones that I admit to freely)in a vain attempt to mask your embarrassment at you being called out for trying to use a word that you couldn’t even pronounce, let alone spell. You’re really not doing yourself any favours on this thread; but then again you don’t do yourself any favours on this Messageboard, full stop.

I never claimed to be perfect; far from it. I will happily acknowledge my failings. It’s you that won’t, or worse, can’t.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:54 pm

I can spell better than you.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:55 pm

Chobulous wrote:I can spell better than you.

I’m sure you can.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:56 pm

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:57 pm

That makes me feel all warm and snug (sic)

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 1:57 pm

Chobulous wrote:That makes me feel all warm and snug (sic)

Jolly good.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 2:14 pm

Lord Beamish wrote:Again Wrongo, you pick up on what are plainly typos(ones that I admit to freely)in a vain attempt to mask your embarrassment at you being called out for trying to use a word that you couldn’t even pronounce, let alone spell. You’re really not doing yourself any favours on this thread; but then again you don’t do yourself any favours on this Messageboard, full stop.

I never claimed to be perfect; far from it. I will happily acknowledge my failings. It’s you that won’t, or worse, can’t.

Mr Kettle let me introduce you to, an increasingly angry, just cos he went and shot himself in the foot, Mr Pot!

Grrrrrr

( bet you went over the above quotation with a fine toothed comb before pressing "submit" didnt you!!!!!

)