Ipswich v Sheffield United

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:36 am

I’ve merged the threads

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by kentonclaret » Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:55 am

When a new manager is appointed it is often the case that the next set of fixtures are winnable games. Charlton at home next followed by Oxford away.

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:57 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:55 am
When a new manager is appointed it is often the case that the next set of fixtures are winnable games. Charlton at home next followed by Oxford away.
And Wilder was the manager who got Oxford back into the league.

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by kentonclaret » Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:06 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 10:57 am
And Wilder was the manager who got Oxford back into the league.
Oxford United beat them 1-0 last season ending a sequence of 6 straight away wins for the Blades.
This time it will probably be on the back of 6 straight away losses.

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by dsr » Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:18 am

Aclaret wrote:
Mon Sep 15, 2025 8:02 pm
..He gets sacked, paid up in compo, then gets another 3 year contract, nice work Mr Wilder :D
Rumour has it that they were still paying his old contract, so in that sense it's a saving for the club to reappoint him. They were paying 2 managers last week (Wilder ex-manager, Selles current) and now they're still paying 2 managers (Selles ex-manager, Wilder current).

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:23 am

dsr wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 11:18 am
Rumour has it that they were still paying his old contract, so in that sense it's a saving for the club to reappoint him. They were paying 2 managers last week (Wilder ex-manager, Selles current) and now they're still paying 2 managers (Selles ex-manager, Wilder current).
I think that's exactly how it is and his contract still runs until the end of next season

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Sep 16, 2025 3:25 pm

Someone mentioned that if he gets them up this season,
he'll be the first Championship manager to do so after the club has lost their first 5 games.

Don't know if that's right though.

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:28 pm

Wilder mentioned today about the owners wanting to use AI and that was one of the issues.

I found it interesting, I have been pondering the merits of online scouting and data analysis for some time, but my brain hasn’t made the leap to the potential of AI to improve a team. Logically, it will be in-game analysis, not just scouting and post-game reviews.

Seems to me that the game will need laws brought in to avoid computers taking over mid-match changes. It’d be like hatred of VAR on steroids.

Not saying that is the Sheff Utd exact situation, I just found it interesting to ponder where things may lead.

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:25 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Sep 16, 2025 9:28 pm

Seems to me that the game will need laws brought in to avoid computers taking over mid-match changes. It’d be like hatred of VAR on steroids.
Why? I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't happening already btw - you'll notice most managers have ipads in the dugout now. There are probably tons of AI insights being fed to them during each game, which some managers will likely be using to help make decisions.

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:17 am

AI has to be a very useful tool in scouting, but it can't be the only tool. It can't measure temperament or attitude for example.
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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:25 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:17 am
AI has to be a very useful tool in scouting, but it can't be the only tool. It can't measure temperament or attitude for example.
Exactly. It can sift through a large database, but you still need the experience human eye when it comes down to the nitty gritty
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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by ecc » Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:12 am

They're selling it to us as a panacea.

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Re: Ipswich v Sheffield United

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:30 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:17 am
AI has to be a very useful tool in scouting, but it can't be the only tool. It can't measure temperament or attitude for example.
When you don’t do background checks it causes dressing room problems. Thankfully we are back to doing that with Parker.
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