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It looks like he tried to play a brand of football like in the Championship but the players weren't good enough but he kept trying and it looks like Bayern have bought into that and with better players might work there .
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
Does anyone have the overriding gut feeling that VK has fair done a job on us?
Can't seem to shake it - don't begrudge him taking the Bayern job one bit but more things from the season are starting to make sense...
Can't seem to shake it - don't begrudge him taking the Bayern job one bit but more things from the season are starting to make sense...
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I for one think he may end up amongst the pile of brilliant footballers who couldnt manage at the top.Indecisive wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 10:30 amRealise I'm in the minority but I'll be sad to see Kompany go.
This season has been overwhelmingly frustrating but going into next season, although I saw him leaving a real possibility, I had bought into his approach and did see why what he was hoping to create increased the likelihood of us competing better at a higher level, as oppose to a best case scenario of fleeting visits to the Premier league involving seasons of just pure graft and grind to hopefully just avoid the drop.
However the Kompany era is over and I genuinely can see him going on to have a great management career. He has an intensity and intelligence that I think is missing from a lot of the other top premier league players who have recently stepped into management. Really really would be impossible to blame him for taking this opportunity. I'll look back, particularly on thay first season, very fondly, and I actually wish him well in his career. He's definitely more in the Dyche camp (in terms of past managers I'd remember positively and always give a clap to) , as opposed to the Coyle camp (to me he genuinely did stitch us up).
Anyway, football is football. Hope the board make the right choice with the next manager... genuinely have no idea who that should be.
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Nope. Not even the slightest bit.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:12 amDoes anyone have the overriding gut feeling that VK has fair done a job on us?
Can't seem to shake it - don't begrudge him taking the Bayern job one bit but more things from the season are starting to make sense...
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i think he will do a decent job at Bayern, cant fail to improve on this season.
fair play to him, thanks for the good times. hope he does well.
on to the next. simple as that for me.
fair play to him, thanks for the good times. hope he does well.
on to the next. simple as that for me.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
I don't mean that he's deliberately, consciously sabotaged us btw so don't take it that way.
More been a bit more 'brand VK' as #1 than BFC.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
I think if you want to believe that, then no one will convince you otherwise.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:12 amDoes anyone have the overriding gut feeling that VK has fair done a job on us?
Can't seem to shake it - don't begrudge him taking the Bayern job one bit but more things from the season are starting to make sense...
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
He is going to the biggest club in Germany, can't fault him for that, getting that chance could make or break his career, doubt he will ever be skint.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
I wouldn’t say he’s done a job on us, he surely after this season can’t of thought one of the biggest clubs in world football would look to bring him inCoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:12 amDoes anyone have the overriding gut feeling that VK has fair done a job on us?
Can't seem to shake it - don't begrudge him taking the Bayern job one bit but more things from the season are starting to make sense...
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
I don't 'want to' I just have a bit of a gut-feeling... Happy to hear points/args other ways.Winstonswhite wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:17 amI think if you want to believe that, then no one will convince you otherwise.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
I keep seeing this, and I just don't get it.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:16 amI don't mean that he's deliberately, consciously sabotaged us btw so don't take it that way.
More been a bit more 'brand VK' as #1 than BFC.
If anything, he changed his tactics too much this season, in an attempt to be more pragmatic. Didn't you even mention this yourself?
Also, the second half of the season, where you'd think he'd go more with his style in order to highlight his 'brand', we actually looked tighter and more competitive (admittedly a low bar).
Ultimately, the best thing for his 'brand' would have been to keep us up. I just don't buy the argument. There is no way he thought Bayern were going to come knocking.
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If VK realised that playing crap football, spending lots of money on players who weren't good enough, having an awful defence and hardly ever scoring would land him the Bayern job and it was all on purpose then he's pulled a brilliant swindle on us. Marks against him for the brief run of decent form when he brought Muric and Cullen in though.
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I think it’s a good move for VK and us.
I would have liked him to get us up again but it presents a great opportunity for us to get a top replacement in and have a clean break from last season.
I would have liked him to get us up again but it presents a great opportunity for us to get a top replacement in and have a clean break from last season.
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except that wouldnt be true would itdaveisaclaret wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:23 amIf VK realised that playing crap football, spending lots of money on players who weren't good enough, having an awful defence and hardly ever scoring would land him the Bayern job and it was all on purpose then he's pulled a brilliant swindle on us. Marks against him for the brief run of decent form when he brought Muric and Cullen in though.
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Not 100% certain on this but I've heard that there was a clause put into the Kompany contract that any compensation paid for him leaving for another club should be paid to ALK and not Burnley FC. This means Pace should get the £20m so hopefully he will invest some of this into either keeping a few players or buying a few players
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
I'd guess that the size of VKs contract will have ruled out any ideas of sacking him...so maybe this is a godsend for Pace.
Some of the team management this season has been frankly bizarre...maybe the head honcho at Bayern knows something we dont.
Ive been wrong about everything else so far in this circus though..
Bemused .
Somerset.
Some of the team management this season has been frankly bizarre...maybe the head honcho at Bayern knows something we dont.
Ive been wrong about everything else so far in this circus though..
Bemused .
Somerset.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
Certainly a bold tactic to attract big clubsdaveisaclaret wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:23 amIf VK realised that playing crap football, spending lots of money on players who weren't good enough, having an awful defence and hardly ever scoring would land him the Bayern job and it was all on purpose then he's pulled a brilliant swindle on us. Marks against him for the brief run of decent form when he brought Muric and Cullen in though.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
Some crazy conspiracy theory stuff on this thread.
There is no way VK or anyone else could have predicted Bayern Munich would have come in for him.
And how do we know this ? Because literally nobody did.
All this “brand” Kompany and he just used us is absolute nonsense.
Let’s just stick to what has actually happened
We had a fantastic season - everybody loved him.
We had a sh-it season - lots of people loved him a lot less
One of the biggest clubs in the world want him to be their manager - for reasons known to themselves
VK does what every other manager in the world in his position would do at this stage of his career after just being relegated to the championship.
It’s not really that complicated
There is no way VK or anyone else could have predicted Bayern Munich would have come in for him.
And how do we know this ? Because literally nobody did.
All this “brand” Kompany and he just used us is absolute nonsense.
Let’s just stick to what has actually happened
We had a fantastic season - everybody loved him.
We had a sh-it season - lots of people loved him a lot less
One of the biggest clubs in the world want him to be their manager - for reasons known to themselves
VK does what every other manager in the world in his position would do at this stage of his career after just being relegated to the championship.
It’s not really that complicated
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Aye. He's got an offer he hasn't earned, beyond his wildest dreams, and he'd be mad not to take it. It's crazy to think he's done a number on us.
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"FC Bayern will not pay €20 million that Burnley are demanding but they are hoping for €14-€15 million, I expect a deal to be done either today or tomorrow"
Just now by the German chap on SSN who broke the story
Just now by the German chap on SSN who broke the story
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Kompany has changed his name to Baldrick...
He has a cunning plan... Win the Bundesliga with Big club Bayern next season....Guardiola leaving City end of next season... Kompany is City manager 2025/26 season.
That's his plan and dream which will end up a nightmare for both him and Bayern.
He has a cunning plan... Win the Bundesliga with Big club Bayern next season....Guardiola leaving City end of next season... Kompany is City manager 2025/26 season.
That's his plan and dream which will end up a nightmare for both him and Bayern.
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He might do, but honestly, I'd put a pretty healthy bet on that not being the case. I don't think the last year, and our situation as a club, would really provide proper indication either way on that anyway.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out at Bayern. Its definitely a risk. But so was, for example, Arsenal giving the job to Arteta, who had never actually managed at the top level. It paid off OK for them. I expect Kompany to do well at Bayern, although that is far from guaranteed I totally appreciate.
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If a couple of million euros is the stumbling block then I'd expect VK to pay the difference himself.. he won't want the move to fall through over thatTHEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:44 am"FC Bayern will not pay €20 million that Burnley are demanding but they are hoping for €14-€15 million, I expect a deal to be done either today or tomorrow"
Just now by the German chap on SSN who broke the story
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Perhaps we should start a JustGiving page?Woonderbah wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:51 amIf a couple of million euros is the stumbling block then I'd expect VK to pay the difference himself.. he won't want the move to fall through over that
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
Take 15m and first pick of a couple of free loan players
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Hahahaha these journalists don’t have a clue, Sacha saying kompany already in Munich and sky Germany saying he isn’t.
They all make it up as they go along
They all make it up as they go along
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Yes, and I wanted him to stay and supported him all through last season.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:12 amDoes anyone have the overriding gut feeling that VK has fair done a job on us?
Can't seem to shake it - don't begrudge him taking the Bayern job one bit but more things from the season are starting to make sense...
As you say, you can’t begrudge him taking the job, but it’s now pretty evident it’s been all about him all along.
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What bothers me is some sections of the media speculating that Kompany didn't have the players he needed to play the football he wanted at Burnley and that he would at Bayern Munich. He had a massive say in all of our signings, didn't he? And if he indeed didn't have the players he needed, despite signing them, and still insisted on the style of football that wasn't working for us in the PL, it makes the decision by Bayern Munich all the more head-scratching.
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Hope Mr P doesn't overplay his hand and we keep a disgruntled Kompany!Woonderbah wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:51 amIf a couple of million euros is the stumbling block then I'd expect VK to pay the difference himself.. he won't want the move to fall through over that
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If I’m honest I think any ambitious manager will ever not be building their brand in any role they’re in. Unless you go for one with very limited ambition I think that will always be the case.CoolClaret wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:16 amI don't mean that he's deliberately, consciously sabotaged us btw so don't take it that way.
More been a bit more 'brand VK' as #1 than BFC.
I’m sure Dyche had ambitions beyond Burnley but I don’t think he ever saw himself managing City or Real Madrid (or Bayern!) whereas I think Kompany probably did.
Maybe a lesson learned there - either it’s a good idea to get those kind of managers because their drive bags you £20m compensation, or better to go with someone less ambitious that may stick around longer. Pretty sure Pace will view it as the former.
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Well I for one am absolutely gutted .True , last season was a hard watch and we just weren't good enough overall so we got what we deserved but the season before was brilliant and it was great to be a Claret .I was looking forward to a repeat in the coming season .Now I'm full of trepidation .New manager with new ideas should be refreshing but there's precious little time to work out your best team from a big squad and , let's be honest , some of the squad will be happy about a new manager but a lot won't be and it will be interesting to see who wants to bale out .I'm surprised he's going because, sadly , he's been a failure in reality this last season and I must be missing what Bayern can see in him but can't blame the fella for wanting that gig can you ?
Big re-build coming whoever gets the job .If we can afford Moyes he would be the one for me .
In my long period as a fan , through thick and thin ( sometimes VERY thin ! ) , good times and bad , joy and heartache it's always been great to be a Claret . Roll on august.
Big re-build coming whoever gets the job .If we can afford Moyes he would be the one for me .
In my long period as a fan , through thick and thin ( sometimes VERY thin ! ) , good times and bad , joy and heartache it's always been great to be a Claret . Roll on august.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
I know what you're saying but not so sure I fully agree with that NC.NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 12:12 pmIf I’m honest I think any ambitious manager will ever not be building their brand in any role they’re in. Unless you go for one with very limited ambition I think that will always be the case.
I’m sure Dyche had ambitions beyond Burnley but I don’t think he ever saw himself managing City or Real Madrid (or Bayern!) whereas I think Kompany probably did.
Maybe a lesson learned there - either it’s a good idea to get those kind of managers because their drive bags you £20m compensation, or better to go with someone less ambitious that may stick around longer. Pretty sure Pace will view it as the former.
There's been plenty of managers that have progressed and had ambitions without being bothered about 'building their brand'.
Though I agree with your last paragraph.
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Do you think VK will do a parting message interview to us fans?
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Very interesting point that VK is minted and can afford to pay the compo himself if necessary.
If I were Pace I’d be hardballing this at €20m, it has ripped the guts out of the club and left us with a load of players from overseas who won’t want to stay. If Bayern only want to pay €10m as reported, that is cheap as chips and I wouldn’t roll over for that. They want him, he wants it, between those parties they’ll have to make us good.
If I were Pace I’d be hardballing this at €20m, it has ripped the guts out of the club and left us with a load of players from overseas who won’t want to stay. If Bayern only want to pay €10m as reported, that is cheap as chips and I wouldn’t roll over for that. They want him, he wants it, between those parties they’ll have to make us good.
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here it is...It Is What It Is wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 12:23 pmDo you think VK will do a parting message interview to us fans?
https://youtu.be/pkWuY3xt6eE?si=52qd-KiCnx_puSgw
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When Weghorst had the opportunity to go to Man Utd he made up the difference in the compensation payment so it's not unheard of.. VK's a wealthy man and desperately wants the move and Pace is a money manCrosspoolClarets wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 12:30 pmVery interesting point that VK is minted and can afford to pay the compo himself if necessary.
If I were Pace I’d be hardballing this at €20m, it has ripped the guts out of the club and left us with a load of players from overseas who won’t want to stay. If Bayern only want to pay €10m as reported, that is cheap as chips and I wouldn’t roll over for that. They want him, he wants it, between those parties they’ll have to make us good.
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Possibly, he'll make it all about him thoughIt Is What It Is wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 12:23 pmDo you think VK will do a parting message interview to us fans?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6amE5NoADuc
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
Talking of Weghorst.
Him going to United was up there with this move as "crazy".
Him going to United was up there with this move as "crazy".
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Isn’t it all the same pot anywayDevils_Advocate wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2024 11:34 amNot 100% certain on this but I've heard that there was a clause put into the Kompany contract that any compensation paid for him leaving for another club should be paid to ALK and not Burnley FC. This means Pace should get the £20m so hopefully he will invest some of this into either keeping a few players or buying a few players
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Bellamy definitely not going according to the Athletic.
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BBC:
"Taking over from Sean Dyche, Kompany transformed Burnley's style of play and earned them an instant return to the Premier League with seven matches remaining in the Championship - the earliest any side has ever been promoted.
Kompany was unable to keep Burnley in the top flight this season but he stuck admirably to his principles of possession-based football, which has no doubt helped to catch Bayern's eye."
That second paragraph must have been written by VK or one of his "camp".
"Taking over from Sean Dyche, Kompany transformed Burnley's style of play and earned them an instant return to the Premier League with seven matches remaining in the Championship - the earliest any side has ever been promoted.
Kompany was unable to keep Burnley in the top flight this season but he stuck admirably to his principles of possession-based football, which has no doubt helped to catch Bayern's eye."
That second paragraph must have been written by VK or one of his "camp".
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ive not read any of this thread but what an amazing chance for VK. once in a lifetime. hope it goes well for him and good luck.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?
What if, he doesn't leave? Eh
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Me either.
If he’d have gone to any other team than one of the top 10 clubs in Europe who are regular Champions of their domestic league and Champions League then possibly could hold something against him.
It’s happened to Moyes, Potter, Lampard etc. Big clubs come in for you- even if you weren’t expecting it - you are in a position that makes it hard to say no. You have to show ambition as a manager and if you can demonstrate you can operate in that environment successfully- your set for life.
If you turn it down, you risk never being asked again.
The 64 million dollar question is will he make a success of it.
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I can only picture the Burnley FC Boardroom with AP & co running around like headless chickens!
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I bet young Sambo isn't best pleased
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Hopefully not as I detest Bayern.