Euro 2024

[CrosspoolClarets]

Can’t agree here, Bellingham has played there all season in an unbelievable season for Madrid. Next to Rice wouldn’t make us any better, you need a controller in there, someone who can receive the ball in tight areas, turn and play through the lines… we’ve got a couple of them on the bench.

Well we cannot drop Bellingham and Foden is player of the year in that position.

I don’t think he plays that role for Madrid. It is technically further forward but it is more of a forward midfielder than off the striker, and he supports two strikers in Rodrygo and Vinicious Jnr. For England we desperately need creativity next to Kane due to Kane’s lack of pace.

So I feel there is no choice but to play one more attacker and one less defender, but I don’t think the manager has it in him, which is why I have wanted him sacked for 4 years.

[Tufty]

Dyche for England!

[Murger]

Bellingham needs to play further back in place of TAA. Foden just behind Kane and Gordon out on the left.

[Sheedyclaret]

Southgate interview clear he wants a 2nd defending midfielder like Phillips, he cannot trust Bellingham in that role.

Feels like neglect of a major talent because no way Bellingham is a 10. He needs to burst into that position from deep rather than being up there all the time. Otherwise we get both Kane and Bellingham dropping deeper than the role demands.

Poor old Lineker and co are virtually begging for Foden to be moved inside.

He’s played higher up the pitch for Madrid all season

[Juan Tanamera]

Southgate saying we don't have a natural replacement for Kalvin Phillips honestly using that as an excuse

For the life in me I could never understand why Southgate continually picked Philips who rarely played because of continuing injuries.
It was beyond obsessive and an insult to other players who may have hoped to be selected.

[yTib]

that felt like a loss to me.

i made my tea very angrily afterwards.

[Goalposts]

Jesus Christ - in an extended interview he just said we dont have a left back at the moment . He picked the squad. And we dont have ano centermidfielder - which Trent has been filling in far - total total clown of a manager

[bumba]

Kane, Bellingham, Foden, Rice, Arnold, Saka, Tripper have all had brilliant seasons for their clubs. Then they turn up for England and something has sucked all the energy, pace, positivity, creativity and enthusiasm out of them. It can only be the manager and the tactics.
PS. Credit to Denmark who are actually a more than decent side and absolutely no push over.

Trippier has had a poor season at Newcastle playing his natural position

[timshorts]

Could we please have this thread split so that the 20 pages of crying about England are on a separate thread from "euro 2024"? The helpful posts that are posted by those that are lucky to be able to view Turkey v Georgia are getting lost otherwise.

On the England front, it usually takes until the third game to work out that some players who have the luxury of playing for sides full of quality teammates making them look good are not necessarily the ones that are wanted in the team.

[HahaYeah]

Spain v Italy up next.

[timshorts]

Trippier has had a poor season at Newcastle playing his natural position

Agreed.

I fact, on the odd occasion that warranted it, Gordon looked better as a makeshift left back.

Trippier was okish up to the mid-season injury, but was very accident prone after he came back. Saudi arabia/turkey/usa beckons.

[Darthlaw]

Are we copy / pasting the pre match discussions about the lineup from Sunday or just the one's after the game?

This aged marvellously, at least

[Dark Cloud]

Eze didn't have a clue.

Can't help feeling if Eze is getting game time at a top tournament, why on earth can't Jack Grealish even make it onto the plane!!!?

[Murger]

Eze has been brilliant for Palace. Fully deserved a call up.

[boatshed bill]

Can't help feeling if Eze is getting game time at a top tournament, why on earth can't Jack Grealish even make it onto the plane!!!?

I totally agree.
basically GS gets 2 years to sort out his squad and get them training and playing together. I don't see how these late inclusions are meant to be up to speed tactically.

[Roosterbooster]

He’s played higher up the pitch for Madrid all season

He's not played as a 10 though

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Southgate post match ( via the BBC )

"It's an experiment. We don't have a natural replacement for Kalvin Philips but we are trying different things"



F*cking clueless

[Carlos the Great]

I think if everyone lowers their expectations of England in this competition it might be more enjoyable when watching them

[Milltown1882]

I think if everyone lowers their expectations of England in this competition it might be more enjoyable when watching them

We’re all the bookies favourites to win it

[THEWELLERNUT70]

After what Southgate said in the press conference I'd sack him on the spot because he's delusional imo

[boatshed bill]

I think if everyone lowers their expectations of England in this competition it might be more enjoyable when watching them

I suppose that depends on the level of anyone's expectations to start with.
I'd just like us to play with a sense of adventure, entertain me!

[4:20]

What tournaments did Shearer win?

Tournoi de France 1997

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[BigGaz]

It's absolutely remarkable Southgate can have this amount of talent and make them look so lost, like the versions of themselves at club level are a different player entirely.

I'm fed up of him trying to shoehorn his chums in there.

We don't have a lb, he's preferred Gomez and Trippier when Dan Burn and/or Tyrick Mitchell would have done a perfectly fine job.

He's playing a right back at CM when Jude Bellingham, up until the last 8 months of his career has done that. I don't buy that he simply HAS to be in behind Kane.

Phil Foden does his best work coming in off the right or through the middle. Everyone who has a pair of eyes knows this. If you prefer Saka, fine, just put him on the bench instead of trying to shoehorn him in.

Palmer, coming off the back of a breakout season hasn't had a sniff.

It's depressing watching that shite but I still will, god knows why.

Bellingham Rice
Saka Palmer Eze
Kane

Next please

[Conroysleftfoot]

I hope we don't play Spain in this competition, we will get absolutely battered.

[HahaYeah]

Spain make England look half asleep.

[dougcollins]

GS still calling the Alexander Arnold thing 'an experiment'.

Call me old fashioned but isn't the group stage of a major tournament too late to be conducting experiments?

Don't get me started on Trippier.

Apart from that, no shape, no tactics.

[bumba]

I hope we don't play Spain in this competition, we will get absolutely battered.

I'm not fully convinced we'd even beat Scotland in the knockouts

[bumba]

Agreed.

I fact, on the odd occasion that warranted it, Gordon looked better as a makeshift left back.

Trippier was okish up to the mid-season injury, but was very accident prone after he came back. Saudi arabia/turkey/usa beckons.

Just seems so odd to take him after a poor season at his age to play in a position he isn't any good in when we've natural left backs available

[Vino blanco]

I honestly believe we would have a better chance if we replaced Southgate forthwith and replaced him with the woman who manages the Lionesses.

[dougcollins]

Just seems so odd to take him after a poor season at his age to play in a position he isn't any good in when we've natural left backs available

This is the point, Trippier isn't a left back.

Can't cross with his left, and struggling when the opposing winger goes outside him.

[ElectroClaret]

1-0 Spain og

[Stayingup]

1-0 Spain og

And fully deserved. Good team Spain

[Taffy on the wing]

Nice to see a real game of football at last.......so refreshing after that England bore-fest.

[Taffy on the wing]

This is the point, Trippier isn't a left back.

Can't cross with his left, and struggling when the opposing winger goes outside him.

Spain have a proper left back in Williams......having a great game.
Jamal...new Messi?........Dynamite & only 16.

[RVclaret]

Spain have a proper left back in Williams......having a great game.
Jamal...new Messi?........Dynamite & only 16.

Cucarella is the left back, Williams left winger.

[Ric_C]

Rico Lewis would be miles better than tripper at left back

[Robbie_painter]

Just seems so odd to take him after a poor season at his age to play in a position he isn't any good in when we've natural left backs available

Which natural left backs are available?

[Winstonswhite]

Rico Lewis would be miles better than tripper at left back

When has Rico Lewis ever had to defend?

[brexit]

Which natural left backs are available?

Charlie Taylor

[Stayingup]

Some great skills Spain v Italy and some good play acting too. Enjoyable game.

[Taffy on the wing]

Cucarella is the left back, Williams left winger.

My mistake.......cracking player though.......Cucurella having a great game too.

[CoolClaret]

Rico Lewis would be miles better than tripper at left back

I think Charlie Taylor would as well.

Trippier isn't a left back - never has, never will be.

[Taffy on the wing]

I think Charlie Taylor would as well.

Trippier isn't a left back - never has, never will be.

Players playing out of their natural positions ...makes zero sense to me.
The very fact that Southgate is England manager ........makes even less sense.

[Casper2]

My mistake.......cracking player though.......Cucurella having a great game too.

Cucurella 2nd choice to chilwell at Chelsea starts for spain but chilwell not in squad for England despite having no left back

[Casper2]

Tyrick Mitchell has been superb this season

[Benson]

Which natural left backs are available?

Tyrick Mitchell is the only one I can think of.

[Robbie_painter]

Tyrick Mitchell is the only one I can think of.

[dougcollins]

I just assumed Chilwell is injured, is that not the case?

[Casper2]

I just assumed Chilwell is injured, is that not the case?

Nope , but played poorly in his last 2 England games

[Casper2]

Eze has been brilliant for Palace. Fully deserved a call up.

Eze scored 11 goals last season , Palmer 22 who would you put on ?