World cup thread

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:03 pm

I wonder if anyone helped this poor girl out

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:38 pm

German goal is inevitable here

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:39 pm

Thinking the same. Only a matter of time.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:39 pm

Or maybe not!

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:40 pm

Oh yeah?

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:40 pm

Boatend

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:41 pm

Come on, Sweden, get a bloody winner!!

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:46 pm

Phew.
Good save!

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:52 pm

Oh nein

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:53 pm

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:53 pm

Stupid fk to give away!
Blew it.

john'sroseyspecs · Post by **john'sroseyspecs** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:53 pm

Bugger

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:54 pm

Some things in life are predictable. Germany winning this game in the dying seconds is one of those.

ClaretFelix · Post by **ClaretFelix** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:54 pm

Terrible goalkeeping. Stood behind his two man wall and still made a movement to the right.

Longside4evr · Post by **Longside4evr** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:55 pm

I just said this is the moment they score you just knew it !

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:55 pm

Germany v Argentina final

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:56 pm

The player that needlessly tripped the German should be banished!

Had their chances. Can still do it by beating Mexico reserves!

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:56 pm

Sweden 1 Corruption 2.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:57 pm

IanMcL wrote:The player that needlessly tripped the German should be banished!

Had their chances. Can still do it by beating Mexico reserves!

Why would Mexico play their reserves?

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:58 pm

Fantastic finish to the game! Very happy for my German friends!

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:58 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Why would Mexico play their reserves?

Quite common for teams to rotate in final group game once qualified.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:59 pm

That was fun.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:59 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Why would Mexico play their reserves?

1. Already qualified.
2. Eliminate major threat

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:59 pm

simonclaret wrote:Quite common for teams to rotate in final group game once qualified.

I don't believe they've qualified yet.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:02 pm

IanMcL wrote:1. Already qualified.
2. Eliminate major threat

When two teams have the same points, first the goal difference across their three group matches will be used and, if still tied, the number of goals scored will be taken into account. The head-to-head result only comes into play after that.

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:02 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I don't believe they've qualified yet.

Good point.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:02 pm

IanMcL wrote:1. Already qualified.
2. Eliminate major threat

They haven’t qualified yet, a good win for Sweden against them will eliminate them - I think...!

mdd2 · Post by **mdd2** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:03 pm

Mexico still need a point. still possible for Sweden Mexico and Germany to finish on 6pts

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:03 pm

FactualFrank wrote:When two teams have the same points, first the goal difference across their three group matches will be used and, if still tied, the number of goals scored will be taken into account. The head-to-head result only comes into play after that.

So, a decent sweden win and a germany win knocks mexico out, no?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:04 pm

Yep, they've not qualified yet. Tie break criteria is goal diff, then goals scored. If those are all equal then it will be head to head. But if the other two are equal then head to head won't solve anything. Because the three of them will have beat each other. So then it'd go to goal difference between the teams concerned (so excluding their South Korea games)

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:04 pm

mdd2 wrote:Mexico still need a point. still possible for Sweden Mexico and Germany to finish on 6pts

Can’t rule that out, very possible.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:04 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:So, a decent sweden win and a germany win knocks mexico out, no?

Correct.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:06 pm

simonclaret wrote:Quite common for teams to rotate in final group game once qualified.

But they haven’t qualified yet. Need at least a point.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:06 pm

So - hang on. If Sweden and Germany both win 1-0, then all three have scored 3, against 2, GD 1 - so Mexico go through because they beat Germany, Germany go through because they beat Sweden and Sweden go through because they beat Mexico....what then?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:08 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:So - hang on. If Sweden and Germany both win 1-0, then all three have scored 3, against 2, GD 1 - so Mexico go through because they beat Germany, Germany go through because they beat Sweden and Sweden go through because they beat Mexico....what then?

Goal difference in the matches involving only those teams.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:11 pm

So in that scenario:
Mexico (1-0, 0-1) GD 0 Scored 1
Sweden (1-2, 1-0) GD 0 Scored 2
Germany (0-1, 2-1) GD 0 Scored 2

Mexico out on goals scored?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:11 pm

Then goals scored in matched between those teams. Then if it's all still level it'll go to the Fair Play system

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:12 pm

They seem to change the rules so often. I thought - mistakenly - that if two teams had the same number of points then they would be separated on the basis of the head-to-head result. But that isn't the case as stated by FactualFrank.

Didn't they go with the head-to-head result first before?

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:14 pm

The ITV studio is illusionary. One minute it looks as if they have the best spot in the stadium and the next, they’re overlooking the Kremlin. A motorbike driving noisily past at half time has given the game away. They are actually in a small hut by the side of a motorway.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:15 pm

ecc wrote:They seem to change the rules so often. I thought - mistakenly - that if two teams had the same number of points then they would be separated on the basis of the head-to-head result. But that isn't the case as stated by FactualFrank.

Didn't they go with the head-to-head result first before?

Head-to-head is rubbish. It should always be goal difference first.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:18 pm

Heh - so, Korea beat Germany 1-0, Mexico beat Sweden 1-0, all three teams on -1 GD with same goals scored and against - then Germany go through again in 2nd by scoring one more than Sweden.

In a weird turn up, Germany are actually more likely to go through now than Mexico. Ish...

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:20 pm

duncandisorderly wrote:Heh - so, Korea beat Germany 1-0, Mexico beat Sweden 1-0, all three teams on -1 GD with same goals scored and against - then Germany go through again in 2nd by scoring one more than Sweden.

In a weird turn up, Germany are actually more likely to go through now than Mexico. Ish...

I’m not at all sure that you have that right.

duncandisorderly · Post by **duncandisorderly** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:23 pm

dermotdermot wrote:I’m not at all sure that you have that right.

Not about the 'more chance than mexico' thing, but I'm fairly sure on the others

Korea beat Germany 1-0
Mexico beat Sweden 1-0

That leaves the head to heads like this;
Korea 1-0 and 0-1 GD 0, GF 1
Sweden 1-0 and 1-2 GD 0, GF 2
Germany 2-1 and 0-1 GD 0, GF 2

Germany through on head to head vs Sweden, no?

Sorry - wrong about the method, not goals scored but head to head.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:26 pm

Germany are the most likely to go through, as they will beat Korea by a convincing score. Sweden need to beat Mexico by a good score to go through, which is unlikely.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:36 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Germany are the most likely to go through, as they will beat Korea by a convincing score. Sweden need to beat Mexico by a good score to go through, which is unlikely.

If Sweden beat Mexico 1-0 and Germany beat Korea by more than 1, then Sweden will go through in 2nd behind Germany based on their head to head record with Mexico. (GD and GS being the same)

South West Claret. · Post by **South West Claret.** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:58 pm

Next up England v Panama 1pm...no problem at all for those Lilly whites

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:36 pm

South West Claret. wrote:Next up England v Panama 1pm...no problem at all for those Lilly whites

I think Panama will be in red tomorrow.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:23 am

Serbs not happy https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44589162

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:00 am

Kokeza also criticised the 'double eagle' celebration given by Switzerland's two ethnic Albanian goalscorers during Friday's match, describing the actions as "scandalous and shameful".

Imagine being a citizen of a country that massacred thousands of innocent people and then getting upset because one of the ones they didn't get around to killing did a football celebration.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:46 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:I think Panama will be in red tomorrow.

Panama Red?