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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Top Claret » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:56 pm

McNeil in no way responsible for the goal, he did track back but had no chance of catching the player. Pieters was responsible as he kept backing off and made no attempt to put a foot in
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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by superdimitri » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:57 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:55 pm
Not sure how you can accuse McNeil of not tracking back. He just got caught to high up the pitch but certainly tried to get back.
Certainly didn't look that way to me. He let a player who barely has any pace easily beat him. He gave up too easily putting Pieters in a difficult situation.

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Bigvince » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:57 pm

Just listening to the Chelsea half time Love-in 💕, it’s making me feel quite queasy 🤮

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Stacky_claret » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:58 pm

Can anybody tell me the name of the new chelsea manager I didnt quite catch it the 432 times they said it in the first half
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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Gordaleman » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:58 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:48 pm
Get Vydra on!!
You'll have to give him some service though.
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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by CaptJohn » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:58 pm

Chelski are playing well but the ref is on hand to make sure that Tuchel has a warm welcome to the Prem. The tw@t with the whistle can't wait to give them a pen. Just watch 2nd half

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by superdimitri » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:58 pm

Stacky_claret wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:58 pm
Can anybody tell me the name of the new chelsea manager I didnt quite catch it the 432 times they said it in the first half
Thomas Toucan I think.

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:59 pm

They targeted Pieters all through the half, McNeil should have been supporting more

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:59 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:56 pm
McNeil in no way responsible for the goal, he did track back but had no chance of catching the player. Pieters was responsible as he kept backing off and made no attempt to put a foot in
You can’t say McNeill was in no way responsible considering it was his man who ran the length of the pitch and ended up putting the ball in the back of the net.

Anyway there’s not really a need to find a player to blame. Teams score goals. Hope we can respond like we did against Villa.
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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by taio » Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:59 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:57 pm
Certainly didn't look that way to me. He let a player who barely has any pace easily beat him. He gave up too easily putting Pieters in a difficult situation.
You need to watch it again. He made every effort to get back in position. He was trying to support an attack which people often criticise the team for not doing enough.

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Post by Peter Loo » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:00 pm

superdimitri wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:48 pm
Even when McNeil was power walking back? We know Dyche expects better from his wingers. I like McNeil but he's having a very poor game today.
McNeil has been awful up front in continently loosing possession and didn't track back faster enough for the goal.

If he doesn't improve he should be subbed.

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Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:00 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:55 pm
Not sure how you can accuse McNeil of not tracking back. He just got caught too high up the pitch but certainly tried to get back.
He wasn't trying anything like as hard as Azpilacueta was to get forward. It's essentially his man to cover and he left Pieters 2 vs 1. Just a mistake, but he needs to be a little more aware there, surely.

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Rowls » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:00 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:46 pm
Pieters at fault for that goal imo. Shouldn't have backed all the way off.
He was two on one. We got caught out further up the pitch and Dwight couldn’t get back in time.

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:01 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:55 pm
Yes, BUT in that scenario Pieters should make the tackle early and he didn't. He let Odoi enter the box when he could have stopped him near the edge.
I don't think lunging in there is a good idea, he stood him up well. He can't be expected to also cover the runner.

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Post by Bigvince » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:01 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:58 pm
You'll have to give him some service though.
🎣

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by DomBFC1882 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:01 pm

Mcneil needs to help pieters. Shockingly poor so far in defending out wide

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:02 pm

gtclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:54 pm
We've not had a shot at goal yet, we have to ask questions of that defence when we have possession.
We've done OK for most of that half, pity about their goal, but it was well worked and finished.

We are well in this game, but yes I agree we do need to test their defence more, if we do that we may well get some joy, because I'm not convinced about their backline whatsoever, but we have to give them something to think about 2nd half.
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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by tim_noone » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:02 pm

tim_noone wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:46 pm
Tarks playing abraham like a violin.....
I did say......

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Post by taio » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:02 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:00 pm
He wasn't trying anything like as hard as Azpilacueta was to get forward. It's essentially his man to cover and he left Pieters 2 vs 1. Just a mistake, but he needs to be a little more aware there, surely.
He covered loads of ground. I'm not saying he wasn't at any fault. But it wasn't down to the lack of effort to get back in position...it was because he was out of position in the first place... trying to support an attack.

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Post by SouthamptonClaret » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:02 pm

Come on lads, big second half!
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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by joey13 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:03 pm

Movement at throw-ins is shocking

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by superdimitri » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:03 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:59 pm
You need to watch it again. He made every effort to get back in position. He was trying to support an attack which people often criticise the team for not doing enough.
I've watched it a few times. He sprinted for a couple of seconds and then gave up. Meanwhile he let's a centre half sprint past. As mentioned above McNeil has been very poor considering their tactics to attack his side. He needs to do better. Pieter's gets some stick compared to Taylor not getting forward enough but maybe moments like that are why he stays back more often.

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Post by boyyanno » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:04 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:00 pm
He was two on one. We got caught out further up the pitch and Dwight couldn’t get back in time.
He could have challenged Odoi before Azpilicueta got anywhere near. It was a tough situation but he made the wrong decision to back off.

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by claretgimmer » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:04 pm

Pulisic on, Chelsea realised that they can`t outjump our two brilliant centre halves but can outrun the two slowest full backs in the prem

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:05 pm

Getting battered here

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by superdimitri » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:05 pm

Chelsea looking brutal so far pressing for a second. Common clarets!

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Post by tiger76 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:06 pm

Oh! great Pulisic on for Abraham. just what we need not.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:06 pm

tiger76 wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:06 pm
Oh! great Pulisic on for Abraham. just what we need not.
Pulisic a brilliant player

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Post by Zlatan » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:06 pm

For what it’s worth, I think we’re still in this, and personally I think Villa are currently a better team than this Chelsea team, and we overcome them
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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:07 pm

Ben Mee sporting a Will Mossop haircut today!

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Post by Claret » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:07 pm

Glad to see Ben Mee hasn’t gone to a professional barber in this lockdown
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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by boyyanno » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:07 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:01 pm
I don't think lunging in there is a good idea, he stood him up well. He can't be expected to also cover the runner.
By just standing him up he allowed Azpilicueta the time he needed to come through, in that sitiation you have to put a tackle in, it's that simple.

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:08 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:02 pm
He covered loads of ground. I'm not saying he wasn't at any fault. But it wasn't down to the lack of effort to get back in position...it was because he was out of position in the first place... trying to support an attack.
He was definitely trying to get back, but watch the effort from Azpilecueta and watch the effort level from Dwight, one of them definitely wanted it more than the other. I don't think we should scapegoat, but Dwight has to be more aware and try a bit harder there for me. It was a good finish though.

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Post by Wellsy1882 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:08 pm

Bigvince wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 12:54 pm
Trouble is, it’s Ashley Barnes that wins most of our free kicks in the opposition half! Vyd’s hasn’t got that in his game unfortunately.
Its a game we shouldnt win anyway. Not ideal for vyds to get a run but needs to start somewhere. Barnes and wood would be ideal today

Vydra can get at teams below and around us

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Post by DomBFC1882 » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:08 pm

Not good enough this and shows we need reinforcements down the right hand side

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Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:09 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:07 pm
By just standing him up he allowed Azpilicueta the time he needed to come through, in that sitiation you have to put a tackle in, it's that simple.
:lol: Okay.

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by SussexDon1inIreland » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:09 pm

Ref still giving them all the decisions

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:10 pm

Chelsea puff falls over.........ref calls foul.......enough already!
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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:10 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:06 pm
For what it’s worth, I think we’re still in this, and personally I think Villa are currently a better team than this Chelsea team, and we overcome them
We’ll need to step up or they’ll need to drop off mate.

Can’t remember the last time we had less of the play.

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Post by boyyanno » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:10 pm

burnleymik wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:09 pm
:lol: Okay.
You might laugh but you said you were happy with it considering it resulted in a goal, who's the fool? :lol:

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Zlatan » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:10 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:09 pm
Ref still giving them all the decisions
I’d like to take my mums approach to the crying out and I think we should give them something to actually cry about...

;)
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Post by Funkydrummer » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:11 pm

They're nearly all righthand side. Good job Werner is cr@p !!!

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Post by superdimitri » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:11 pm

Lucky with that handball... About the only decision that's gone our way. Scott doing his bit to help Chelsea's game management.
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Post by Safron » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:11 pm

Christ have we not learned owt from the first half , pressure the bloody ball Burnley

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Post by claretgimmer » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:11 pm

Cork and Westwood completely outgunned at the mo

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Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:12 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:10 pm
You might laugh but you said you were happy with it considering it resulted in a goal, who's the fool? :lol:
You. Captain Hindsight's best mate.

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Post by SussexDon1inIreland » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:12 pm

corner clarets

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Post by burnleymik » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:13 pm

Our strength is our set pieces and we are not winning any....

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Re: Chelsea versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by SussexDon1inIreland » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:13 pm

Jay on

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Post by Safron » Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:13 pm

Mee needs to get us going we need to lift our game

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