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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Wokingclaret » Sun May 29, 2022 9:48 pm

Hale Barnes and we did, isn't that where Howe lived when he was manager

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretCliff » Sun May 29, 2022 10:49 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sun May 29, 2022 9:48 pm
Hale Barnes and we did, isn't that where Howe lived when he was manager
I think Howe lived in Worsley.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun May 29, 2022 11:02 pm

Wokingclaret wrote:
Sun May 29, 2022 9:48 pm
Hale Barnes and we did, isn't that where Howe lived when he was manager
I think he did

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sun May 29, 2022 11:12 pm

Why on Earth would the first photo call of a new prospective Burnley manager be in a pub? Call me old fashioned if you like, and the chap may indeed like a drink or two, but I would have thought it more conventional to be on the club premises.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by elwaclaret » Sun May 29, 2022 11:20 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Sun May 29, 2022 11:12 pm
Why on Earth would the first photo call of a new prospective Burnley manager be in a pub? Call me old fashioned if you like, and the chap may indeed like a drink or two, but I would have thought it more conventional to be on the club premises.
But if your chilling out, out of the way and a fan sees you (a recognised celebrity/sportsman) and asks you for a pic, what would you do tell them to Fec off?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun May 29, 2022 11:28 pm

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Sun May 29, 2022 11:12 pm
Why on Earth would the first photo call of a new prospective Burnley manager be in a pub? Call me old fashioned if you like, and the chap may indeed like a drink or two, but I would have thought it more conventional to be on the club premises.
It’s not the first photo call though. It’s Kompany being asked for a pic by someone else in there.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Mon May 30, 2022 12:10 am

Cirrus_Minor wrote:
Sun May 29, 2022 11:12 pm
Why on Earth would the first photo call of a new prospective Burnley manager be in a pub? Call me old fashioned if you like, and the chap may indeed like a drink or two, but I would have thought it more conventional to be on the club premises.
Stick/ wrong end pal

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Pearcey » Mon May 30, 2022 7:29 am

Got a feeling it will be announced today. Fingers crossed.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by eastcoastclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 8:28 am

Pearcey wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 7:29 am
Got a feeling it will be announced today. Fingers crossed.
When does the youth tournament end?

I would assume the press centre would be used for any announcements/press conference and I can't see them doing that until the tournament ends. It would be a nice touch though if the trophy was to be given to the winners by Kompany, maybe that's the plan.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Pearcey » Mon May 30, 2022 8:38 am

Think the tournament finishes today.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ArmchairDetective » Mon May 30, 2022 8:43 am

Vincent Kompany

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Smile » Mon May 30, 2022 8:43 am

eastcoastclaret wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 8:28 am
It would be a nice touch though if the trophy was to be given to the winners by Kompany, maybe that's the plan.
It would be cheesier than a Roquefort and stilton sandwich.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon May 30, 2022 9:39 am

eastcoastclaret wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 8:28 am
When does the youth tournament end?

I would assume the press centre would be used for any announcements/press conference and I can't see them doing that until the tournament ends. It would be a nice touch though if the trophy was to be given to the winners by Kompany, maybe that's the plan.
When I went down on Saturday the a1scout 2m pound bus and other equipment were parked right next to the media centre.
I thought it was a plan of the owners to get the press to announce Kompany and get their kit noticed.
Showing the national media how good they could put on a youth tournament would also go down well after all the talk in the media of the academy being downgraded.

Maybe it was just too much too organise at once? The press room looked a lot smaller than I thought it would.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Stayingup » Mon May 30, 2022 10:17 am

Reading the article by Dave Thomas today VK or whoever comes in is going to have to work with peanuts to strengthen the squad. The article lays the blame for relegation firmly at tge feet of the last owners. But of course we knew that. But not only for fattening the coffers prior to the sale and spending zilch on reinforcements for SD to work with, but for the wirst type of sale. Leveraged to people with no money.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 30, 2022 10:22 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 9:39 am
When I went down on Saturday the a1scout 2m pound bus and other equipment were parked right next to the media centre.
I thought it was a plan of the owners to get the press to announce Kompany and get their kit noticed.
Showing the national media how good they could put on a youth tournament would also go down well after all the talk in the media of the academy being downgraded.

Maybe it was just too much too organise at once? The press room looked a lot smaller than I thought it would.
Yeah, I went down on Saturday as well.

Like you say, the media centre was a bit small/shabby although tbf I had just seen the Spurs one a few weeks back so perhaps an unfair assessment!

AI Scout was pretty impressive though. Staff were all extremely friendly and professional, and that £2m coach was massively impressive. They can’t be short of investment to buy that!!! When you think they’ll have been gathering data on all the tournaments young players in that thing, you start to see that there must be some value in it somewhere.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Steddyman » Mon May 30, 2022 10:28 am

3pm

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 10:29 am

Steddyman wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 10:28 am
3pm
This a guess or you know?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon May 30, 2022 10:30 am

Steddyman wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 10:28 am
3pm
3pm announcement?

That’ll be for the kit clearance sale then
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Burnley Ace » Mon May 30, 2022 10:36 am

Stayingup wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 10:17 am
Reading the article by Dave Thomas today VK or whoever comes in is going to have to work with peanuts to strengthen the squad. The article lays the blame for relegation firmly at tge feet of the last owners. But of course we knew that. But not only for fattening the coffers prior to the sale and spending zilch on reinforcements for SD to work with, but for the wirst type of sale. Leveraged to people with no money.
Which article?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon May 30, 2022 10:42 am

Stayingup wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 10:17 am
Reading the article by Dave Thomas today VK or whoever comes in is going to have to work with peanuts to strengthen the squad. The article lays the blame for relegation firmly at tge feet of the last owners. But of course we knew that. But not only for fattening the coffers prior to the sale and spending zilch on reinforcements for SD to work with, but for the wirst type of sale. Leveraged to people with no money.
Oldest trick in the book in journalism. Always blame the people who left. If you blame the people still at the club you don't get any stories or looked after.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 10:45 am

I for one am pleased to see that Dave can blame something else other than the EU for something

Progress I guess
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RicardoMontalban » Mon May 30, 2022 10:51 am

Overselling it a bit there, calling it an article. Opinion piece maybe.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 30, 2022 11:05 am

Where is this article that is being discussed?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RicardoMontalban » Mon May 30, 2022 11:09 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:05 am
Where is this article that is being discussed?
Assuming it’s the one in the Burnley Express last Monday.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/f ... mn-3705562

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 30, 2022 11:10 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 10:30 am
3pm announcement?

That’ll be for the kit clearance sale then
This is taking so long my mind has moved on to who the next manager should be!!!

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 30, 2022 11:12 am

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:09 am
Assuming it’s the one in the Burnley Express last Monday.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/f ... mn-3705562
With no disrespect to Dave, there is nothing there that any one of us could have written.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by brexit » Mon May 30, 2022 11:14 am

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 10:51 am
Overselling it a bit there, calling it an article. Opinion piece maybe.
Overselling it to call it an opinion piece - fact checking would be appropriate

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by williamjblazkowicz » Mon May 30, 2022 11:17 am

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 8:43 am
Vincent Kompany
That's quite the detective work!

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Nori1958 » Mon May 30, 2022 11:21 am

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:09 am
Assuming it’s the one in the Burnley Express last Monday.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/f ... mn-3705562
Not the best written/researched article I ever read
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Tall Paul » Mon May 30, 2022 11:22 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:12 am
With no disrespect to Dave, there is nothing there that any one of us could have written.
You must mean "nothing that we could not have written"?

There's at least one thing though - he says the accounts reveal over £100m of debt, that isn't true.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Lancasterclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 11:24 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:22 am
You must mean "nothing that we could not have written"?

There's at least one thing though - he says the accounts reveal over £100m of debt, that isn't true.
Dave doesn't really do facts, he writes opinion pieces designed to get people to comment on them (well, I assume that is what it is, its a p**s poor do if he actually believes what he writes about)

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Down_Rover » Mon May 30, 2022 11:28 am

I think Kompany is a good choice. Unlike Buchan and Waddle he has had a manager's post and performed ok. he has far more potential than the likes of Wilder, many of whom are simply just short of the mark. Kompany, if he has learned anything at Anderlecht, has the potential to be very good. Wilder and co have realised their potential

I suspect that the delay is that his lawyers have asked for evidence that the rescheduling of loan repayments is now agreed and fundable.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RicardoMontalban » Mon May 30, 2022 11:30 am

brexit wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:14 am
Overselling it to call it an opinion piece - fact checking would be appropriate
Yes, some fact checking would have been appropriate.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 30, 2022 11:30 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:22 am
You must mean "nothing that we could not have written"?

There's at least one thing though - he says the accounts reveal over £100m of debt, that isn't true.
I think that’s what I meant 😂😂

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 30, 2022 11:31 am

Down_Rover wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:28 am
I think Kompany is a good choice. Unlike Buchan and Waddle he has had a manager's post and performed ok. he has far more potential than the likes of Wilder, many of whom are simply just short of the mark. Kompany, if he has learned anything at Anderlecht, has the potential to be very good. Wilder and co have realised their potential

I suspect that the delay is that his lawyers have asked for evidence that the rescheduling of loan repayments is now agreed and fundable.
I wouldn’t compare any appointment to Buchan to be fair.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by aggi » Mon May 30, 2022 11:32 am

Tall Paul wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:22 am
You must mean "nothing that we could not have written"?

There's at least one thing though - he says the accounts reveal over £100m of debt, that isn't true.
I assumed that was a reference to the intercompany debt as evidence of how much had come out of the club for the takeover.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Down_Rover » Mon May 30, 2022 11:36 am

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:09 am
Assuming it’s the one in the Burnley Express last Monday.

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/f ... mn-3705562
Guesswork. Nobody knows what the cash reserves are now, a full season after the last accounts were prepared and we have saleable assets.

Equally the accounts state that repayments are to be agreed between the parties. We will not know the outcome of that until we see the next set of accounts. I once met an Irish property magnate at Galway races as the property crash occurred in Ireland in about 2008. He was worried because his properties were worth £200m and he owed the Banks slightly more. I saw him a year later and he said he has no worries because his portfolio was worth £150m and he owed the Bank £250m. It was the Bank who were worried.

As far as we are concerned if we are asked to pay more money than we can afford they risk losing the lot
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Tall Paul » Mon May 30, 2022 11:37 am

aggi wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 11:32 am
I assumed that was a reference to the intercompany debt as evidence of how much had come out of the club for the takeover.
Yes, I'm sure that's where the number comes from. It's a bit disingenuous to represent it as a liabilty of the football club when it's actually an asset. This isn't the only article to do that either.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by bfcmatt » Mon May 30, 2022 11:38 am

I have just had a quick look on sky bet and can't find the betting for Burnley manager.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by brexit » Mon May 30, 2022 12:37 pm

Sky bet has us 6/4 for top 6 finish

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretAndJew » Mon May 30, 2022 1:08 pm

Only 3 companies offering any sort of odds for our next manager post

https://www.oddschecker.com/football/fo ... nt-manager

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 1:17 pm

Betfair exchange still offering.

If you put £1 on Kompany you’d get £1.02 back if he was appointed.

£11k on the market in total.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Smile » Mon May 30, 2022 1:18 pm

Bet £3000 with 888sport, and win £1000 once Kompany joining has been confirmed.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Dougall » Mon May 30, 2022 1:19 pm

Wish I still had a VK Vodka-sponsored shirt!! :?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Steddyman » Mon May 30, 2022 1:21 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 10:30 am
3pm announcement?

That’ll be for the kit clearance sale then
Guess based on the right time to make this announcement to also appeal to an american audience. Though it could be 3pm UTC, which would be 4pm UK time.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by dandeclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 1:23 pm

Smile wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 1:18 pm
Bet £3000 with 888sport, and win £1000 once Kompany joining has been confirmed.
Stale price I reckon - be surprised if they were still betting when everybody else has stopped.... not normally high up in the list to take outlandish risks old 888.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by agreenwood » Mon May 30, 2022 1:39 pm

No idea how reliable it is, but suggestion in the Belgian media that he could be off to Germany afterall..

https://www.voetbal24.be/news/mogelijk- ... mming-lokt

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Murger » Mon May 30, 2022 1:42 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 1:39 pm
No idea how reliable it is, but suggestion in the Belgian media that he could be off to Germany afterall..

https://www.voetbal24.be/news/mogelijk- ... mming-lokt
Christ, I hope we haven't wasted our time like we did with Paul Lambert.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Tall Paul » Mon May 30, 2022 1:42 pm

Smile wrote:
Mon May 30, 2022 1:18 pm
Bet £3000 with 888sport, and win £1000 once Kompany joining has been confirmed.
I imagine there will be a maximum bet and it won't be anywhere near £3k.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Mon May 30, 2022 1:46 pm

Wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t sign now, taking a ridiculous amount of time to announce it , and therefore plenty of time for Kompany to consider other opportunities and whether the club is stable enough.

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