Next manager

[groove]

Oh yeah let’s just appoint a manager to ‘see how he does’

Did you read the whole post? There was a bit more to it than me saying "let's see how he does".

[TheFamilyCat]

Maybe he's working as a part time security guard there these days .

Bottom shelf stacker.

[123EasyasBFC]

https://x.com/mirrorfootball/status/180 ... rNr6Z5x6nA This suggests RVN wants the job

[Hanoverusaclaret]

Given Pace and Co want to grow our international appeal I would be staggered if we end up with Bellamy and Jackson

I don't know... there aren't many names bigger than Michael Jackson in the US

[NewClaret]

Mirror article on RVN

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... d-33086572

If there’s any truth in that it sounds promising - interviewed twice, philosophy discussed, young players to target (feel this will be a very important for ALK).

[jurek]

I just wish we\d hurry up and appoint someone.
It seems as if we can't quite make our minds up.
Either that or there's something holding up an appointment.
If it's to be RVN then let's just offer him the job and if he's not certain
then go with Bellamy.

We've just got to get on with it!

[NewClaret]

I just wish we\d hurry up and appoint someone.
It seems as if we can't quite make our minds up.
Either that or there's something holding up an appointment.
If it's to be RVN then let's just offer him the job and if he's not certain
then go with Bellamy.

We've just got to get on with it!

By all accounts RVN approached us and it’s us taking our time on the decision. Although I’d expect it to take at least a week or more to sort contracts once a decision has been made.

[RVclaret]

By all accounts RVN approached us and it’s us taking our time on the decision. Although I’d expect it to take at least a week or more to sort contracts once a decision has been made.

Something no one has mentioned yet is the potential time it will take for RVN’s work permit (or any other foreign coach). It sounds like Jensen’s took a little while to come through. It was suggested Kompany’s took a while last year too. That could be an issue here?

[helmclaret]

Brexit dividend unfortunately.

[Goody1975]

Yes, it can't go on indefinitely but we have a capable squad (unlike when VK arrived). Another week or so isn't a big issue in the grand scheme of things.

It needs to be the best possible candidate rather than the speed of appointment.

One positive is the Championship starts a week later than normal due to the Euro's.

[Vegas Claret]

Something no one has mentioned yet is the potential time it will take for RVN’s work permit (or any other foreign coach). It sounds like Jensen’s took a little while to come through. It was suggested Kompany’s took a while last year too. That could be an issue here?

it has been mentioned

[burnley007]

I see Sunderland have announced their new manager.
Not Lampard!

[Carlos the Great]

https://x.com/mirrorfootball/status/180 ... rNr6Z5x6nA This suggests RVN wants the job

I think he may well want the job subject to the board and himself being on same page how he envisages things progressing … he seems a good candidate but perhaps the board interested in some details why he left his last job quite so suddenly

[Owdsyker]

Brexit dividend unfortunately.

Bingo!!!

[Taffy on the wing]

Brexit dividend unfortunately.

"the gift that keeps on giving"

[Murger]

Still a fair amount of happy clappers in social media being happy with Bellamy. Blows my mind.

[AGENT_CLARET]

I just wish we\d hurry up and appoint someone.
It seems as if we can't quite make our minds up.
Either that or there's something holding up an appointment.
If it's to be RVN then let's just offer him the job and if he's not certain
then go with Bellamy.

We've just got to get on with it!

What's the rush, we don't ko for 48 days

[gandhisflipflop]

What's the rush, we don't ko for 48 days

We need a manager in to get on the training ground and implement his ideas, he needs to communicate to the board the players that he wants and we need time to get them in. Surely you can’t be happy appointing a manager on the eve of a new season?

[RVclaret]

Bit confused by people saying there’s no rush. Pre-season training starts this week, fixtures are released and our squad needs sorting out (who does the new man want to keep and who is not in the plans). Currently we will have 30 odd players, some who have never met, linking up with an acting Head Coach who was set to leave, along with his replacement. I think we absolutely need clarity on this asap, while also acknowledging we want the ‘right person’, but it’s been what, 4+ weeks now since the news broke of VK leaving? I think wanting this finalised and wanting the right man can co-exist at this point. Leeds started really slow last year after a messy pre season, I hope we aren’t heading down that route!

[fatboy47]

Bit confused by people saying there’s no rush. Pre-season training starts this week, fixtures are released and our squad needs sorting out (who does the new man want to keep and who is not in the plans). Currently we will have 30 odd players, some who have never met, linking up with an acting Head Coach who was set to leave, along with his replacement. I think we absolutely need clarity on this asap, while also acknowledging we want the ‘right person’, but it’s been what, 4+ weeks now since the news broke of VK leaving? I think wanting this finalised and wanting the right man can co-exist at this point. Leeds started really slow last year after a messy pre season, I hope we aren’t heading down that route!

It'll be reight.

[warksclaret]

We need a manager in to get on the training ground and implement his ideas, he needs to communicate to the board the players that he wants and we need time to get them in. Surely you can’t be happy appointing a manager on the eve of a new season?

Agreed-and its so important for the players returning for training to know who the manager is, particularly with so many fringe players in the squad like Brownhill, Roberts,Taylor, who could either knuckle down and give their all, or get restless and get their agents to start touting them around. Plus we need a clearance of so many others who are miles off being first team material. And of course we need one or two key players bringing in. Compare us to Leicester who have Cooper now in place-they can start fully planning the new season

[IanMcL]

... as yet we are rudderless in terms of any direction the new manager may wish to take us.

Ruuderless?

[nig1954]

Something no one has mentioned yet is the potential time it will take for RVN’s work permit (or any other foreign coach). It sounds like Jensen’s took a little while to come through. It was suggested Kompany’s took a while last year too. That could be an issue here?

It does take time to appoint a foreign coach and I’m inclined to think that may have been the rationale for appointing CB as caretaker manager as he and Jackson provide continuity so they can help prepare the players for the new season.
By all accounts they have the confidence of the players and in the meantime the club can concentrate upon finding a suitable candidate to be our next manager .
At least that seems a credible plan as I’m sure they appreciated at the outset of this exercise that it might take some time to find the person most ideally suited to this role and one whom their investors would be prepared to accept

[AGENT_CLARET]

We need a manager in to get on the training ground and implement his ideas, he needs to communicate to the board the players that he wants and we need time to get them in. Surely you can’t be happy appointing a manager on the eve of a new season?

Chill, the season is nine months long

[AGENT_CLARET]

If media reports are to be" believed " why on earth are we bothering waiting for RVN to make his mind up .In terms of ability and record he is largely an untried and unproven candidate for the job.
The season is fast approaching we have recruited a new assistant head coach . The decision for that apparently being made before the departure of Kompany.
Whilst RVN is obviously entitled to look at every option , indecision doesnt do Burnley any favours .
Time for the club to be the drivers not the followers.

Just waiting for his work visa to clear

[taio]

No panic. The Board appointed CB as an interim for a reason and in anticipation it wouldn't be a quick appointment.

[Padiham Joe]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football ... d-33086572

Although a short article, I found the statement that RVN has ‘compiled a database of young players who he feels will be good enough for Burnley at bargain basement prices’ most significant. Not only does it ring true with what has been stated as RVN’s philosophy of developing youth but also seems a good fit with Burnley. His pulling power, young player database and relative success in a short period of time at PSV make look an ideal candidate. Bring on RVN and quickly!

[eastcoastclaret]

We need a manager in to get on the training ground and implement his ideas, he needs to communicate to the board the players that he wants and we need time to get them in. Surely you can’t be happy appointing a manager on the eve of a new season?

We will have chosen a manager to compliment a style of play the club want the team to play. Look at Jensen's background and you can see that his teams play a similar style to Kompany. That was a strong indication that the appointment was made before Kompany left the club. I don't think we will move too far away from the possession based game we have become used to under Kompany, and therefore the coaching team will keep that ticking over until the manager arrives. We will have had in depth conversations with the candidates and lots of things including recruitment will have been discussed and plans will be drawn up and ready to act upon. As others have said, the delay may simply be down to contracts and work permit applications. That doesn't mean plans aren't in place and the successful candidate isn't preparing.

[Hedontplayforyou]

I’m going to guess that we hear who the successful candidate is in the next week.

[eastcoastclaret]

I’m going to guess that we hear who the successful candidate is in the next week.

agree

[mdd2]

We need a team more flexible in the way we play
A repeat of the last 2 years playing possession football may not work for another season this time and definitely no repeat of this last debacle

[Fretters]

We need a team more flexible in the way we play
A repeat of the last 2 years playing possession football may not work for another season this time and definitely no repeat of this last debacle

I think back to the Preston captain's comments after we beat them at the Turf. He said they knew what we were going to do, but were powerless to stop it.

I'd hope we once again have the quality to overpower the majority of teams at that level. Who knows, though?

[Juan Tanamera]

We shouldn’t be waiting, that’s the point. If he’s been offered the job and he can’t make an instant decision we should move on, his hearts obviously not in it. If we intend to come straight back up we need an experienced Manager and from those I’ve seen linked and although he’s not the one I was keen on originally the more I think about it the best candidate looks like Corberan.

"An instant decision?"
We're talking about a very highly paid job and all the responsibilities that go with it.
He's not being interviewed for a job on the production line in the local shoe factory at £10 p/h.
Of course he's going to take his time over it, just as long as I hope the board are taking over him.

[jedi_master]

Surely Pace would look at the prospective ‘pull’ of Van Nistelrooy against Bellamy as a massive reason to go with him. Hypothetically he has links into Man United, PSV and Real Madrid for loan players (appreciate it’s a decade past him playing at a couple of those, but it’s still certainly possible). The allure of playing for someone like Van Nistelrooy is going to be a draw to would be signings, without a doubt. Just like we had with Kompany.

[gandhisflipflop]

Just waiting for his work visa to clear

Reading this post, do you think RVn has the job and we are awaiting his visa?

[ksrclaret]

Definitely no panic, yet, but we really need to finalise this appointment in the coming week.

Like RV has alluded to above, there is a lot of work waiting for whoever the new man is in terms of reshaping a bloated, unbalanced, and in some parts disenfranchised squad. And that's before he thinks about how to implement his own way of playing and bringing in a handful of new players to help with that. Players back in tomorrow means that work needs to begin ASAP now.

I might have this wrong, but just from what I've been reading this morning, I get the feeling now that it's between RVN and giving Bellamy the gig. The other, more straightforward candidates seem to have fallen away in the thinking. Let's hope we get some news this week, and for me personally, I hope it's RVN now.

[mdd2]

If that happens again and up we go we need to rethink how we next play in the Prem League should we be lucky enough to get there
Last season could hardly have been worse

[AGENT_CLARET]

Reading this post, do you think RVn has the job and we are awaiting his visa?

100%

[eastcoastclaret]

I think back to the Preston captain's comments after we beat them at the Turf. He said they knew what we were going to do, but were powerless to stop it.

I'd hope we once again have the quality to overpower the majority of teams at that level. Who knows, though?

Rovers said the same about Benson and he still found a way to score. We were a bit naive at times and didn't adapt, especially last season, but i think our squad is more than capable of doing well this season.

[gandhisflipflop]

100%

I hope you are right!

[mdd2]

If that happens again and up we go we need to rethink how we next play in the Prem League should we be lucky enough to get there
Last season could hardly have been worse

I suppose it could have been had Sheff Utd and Brentford played will 11 rather than 10 for most of the game
Reckon at least one or our wins wouldn’t have occurred

[Rowls]

I hope you are right!

Me too. Don't know if it's based on any info but it's a reasonable supposition.

[Rowls]

Rovers said the same about Benson and he still found a way to score. We were a bit naive at times and didn't adapt, especially last season, but i think our squad is more than capable of doing well this season.

Never knowlingly understated!

[NewClaret]

We need a team more flexible in the way we play
A repeat of the last 2 years playing possession football may not work for another season this time and definitely no repeat of this last debacle

Last time we played possession football at this level we walked the league with 101points. Luton, who adopted a different style, got 81 with a manager some hoped we’d be interested in. We now have a stronger squad if we can keep it together.

Theres no doubt in my mind that we need to continue with the style that got us up last time and that the major risk to success is making wholesale changes to our style with just a few weeks and pre-season games before the season starts (by the time he arrives).

How’s that different to when VK came in? Well it isn’t, but VK had a pretty lacklustre opening 10 games trying to implement his style and benefited from moulding a whole new squad around it. Any new guy will be inheriting this squad that’s been drilled in VK possession football.

We definitely need evolution, if anything, this time. Not revolution. Plus, to be honest I enjoy being camped in the opposition half in the championship, dominating from the first to last minute.

All that said we need to find a better way of approaching the premier league if we go up again but one thing at a time and all that.

[NewClaret]

Definitely no panic, yet, but we really need to finalise this appointment in the coming week.

Like RV has alluded to above, there is a lot of work waiting for whoever the new man is in terms of reshaping a bloated, unbalanced, and in some parts disenfranchised squad. And that's before he thinks about how to implement his own way of playing and bringing in a handful of new players to help with that. Players back in tomorrow means that work needs to begin ASAP now.

I might have this wrong, but just from what I've been reading this morning, I get the feeling now that it's between RVN and giving Bellamy the gig. The other, more straightforward candidates seem to have fallen away in the thinking. Let's hope we get some news this week, and for me personally, I hope it's RVN now.

I agree it’s unbalanced and needs work.

It’s also brimming with quality though as things stand, which is a different way of looking at it. I think every championship manager would gladly swap squads with Burnley’s and happily take on the task of reshaping it to have such a good squad to start with.

[ksrclaret]

I agree it’s unbalanced and needs work.

It’s also brimming with quality though as things stand, which is a different way of looking at it. I think every championship manager would gladly swap squads with Burnley’s and happily take on the task of reshaping it to have such a good squad to start with.

The point is that, whichever way you look at it, it's a lot of work. The new manager will have to make an assessment of each player and then decide who needs moving on. That will require some difficult conversations with players who aren't part of the plans, and no doubt some conversations with players who feel disenfranchised by last season and may need persuading to stay.

There'll be quite a number of players tomorrow morning who won't know where they stand.

[NewClaret]

The point is that, whichever way you look at it, it's a lot of work. The new manager will have to make an assessment of each player and then decide who needs moving on. That will require some difficult conversations with players who aren't part of the plans, and no doubt some conversations with players who feel disenfranchised by last season and may need persuading to stay.

There'll be quite a number of players tomorrow morning who won't know where they stand.

Yes, I agree on that.

Although in simple terms if they’re contracted to BFC, that’s where they stand. I think a lot of them are more professional than we give them credit for and will come in, work hard and see how things go.

Others will likely have already had conversations with the club about exits or know who is interested in them but will remain professional until any deal is agreed. It’s sort of all life as a professional footballer.

I agree there’s a lot of work to do but would also expect Bellamy/Jackson to advise a lot and for many things (e.g. Trafford, Wout, maybe Roberts) to be well advanced before they all arrive for training.

[Holtyclaret]

Bit confused by people saying there’s no rush. Pre-season training starts this week, fixtures are released and our squad needs sorting out (who does the new man want to keep and who is not in the plans). Currently we will have 30 odd players, some who have never met, linking up with an acting Head Coach who was set to leave, along with his replacement. I think we absolutely need clarity on this asap, while also acknowledging we want the ‘right person’, but it’s been what, 4+ weeks now since the news broke of VK leaving? I think wanting this finalised and wanting the right man can co-exist at this point. Leeds started really slow last year after a messy pre season, I hope we aren’t heading down that route!

Was it not said that the aim is to conclude the appointment by end of June?

It’s the 23rd of June and we’re obviously nearing the conclusion of a thorough recruitment process that hopefully provides the best new Head Coach possible.

I’d be very surprised if the players and staff weren’t aware of who is it and will be meeting him early next week you’d think.

No panic time wise if wrapped up in next week or so.

[RVclaret]

Was it not said that the aim is to conclude the appointment by end of June?

It’s the 23rd of June and we’re obviously nearing the conclusion of a thorough recruitment process that hopefully provides the best new Head Coach possible.

I’d be very surprised if the players and staff weren’t aware of who is it and will be meeting him early next week you’d think.

No panic time wise if wrapped up in next week or so.

Where was this said? I have not seen any timeline mentioned by anyone from the club.

[South West Claret.]

Scouting for Colchester

Thanks CT and earning a nice wage as well by the looks of it https://fmtransferupdate.com/staff/2020368-brian-flynn