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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by conyoviejo » Sat May 19, 2018 9:50 pm

Worth every penny..
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat May 19, 2018 10:00 pm

its like playing the race card when gooey eyed royal lovers refer to the military, SMOKESCREEN ALERT, harry is a hero, , cue "our brave boys SUN headline next in caption format.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Guich » Sat May 19, 2018 10:22 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:its like playing the race card when gooey eyed royal lovers refer to the military, SMOKESCREEN ALERT, harry is a hero, , cue "our brave boys SUN headline next in caption format.
Have you been squashed by a big ACME weight after a fool-proof plan to snare the roadrunner has been foiled again? 8-)

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by brigante » Sat May 19, 2018 10:23 pm

I understand £20m of that security was to stop me getting to Alma Clooney.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Nonayforever » Sun May 20, 2018 8:15 am

I had to work all day whilst the wedding was on. We were watching it as much as possible in-between serving customers.
The one enormously apparent observation was that all the customers who were 'for' the wedding were happy outgoing types of people, whereas all the customers that were against the wedding were miserable unhappy people who were not just moaning about the cost etc but we're moaning about everything else as well.

I'm certainly a royalist.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Corky » Sun May 20, 2018 8:38 am

Even if those figures above were accurate, which I don't for one minute believe they are, it would not change my views.

I just find the idea that we have, what is referred to as a constitutional monarch, farcical in this day and age. It is not about personalities or whether I like them or not it is about having a proper democratic society in this country.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Burnley Ace » Sun May 20, 2018 8:55 am

Why is it farcical to have a Constitutional Monarchy? How does our system mean we are less democratic than other countries that have an elected Head of State? Are we less democratic than Italy, Germany, Portugal, Russia etc?

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Corky » Sun May 20, 2018 9:13 am

Elected, you said it yourself.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Foulthrow » Sun May 20, 2018 12:26 pm

Corky wrote:Even if those figures above were accurate, which I don't for one minute believe they are, it would not change my views.

I just find the idea that we have, what is referred to as a constitutional monarch, farcical in this day and age. It is not about personalities or whether I like them or not it is about having a proper democratic society in this country.
It's quite clearly accurate - that's why they have spelt the word share so accurately.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by 4:20 » Sun May 20, 2018 2:41 pm

Dat handle... :lol:
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by karatekid » Sun May 20, 2018 4:06 pm

Lovely car they drove off in. Does anyone know what it was?

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by LoveCurryPies » Sun May 20, 2018 5:27 pm

Whatever it cost (I’m not a Royalist) it sold the best of Britain around the World. A huge amount of good PR has been achieved especially with the United States. I think we can safely assume the investment will be returned with increased tourism and trade.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Spijed » Sun May 20, 2018 5:31 pm

Meg & Harry certainly have poor taste in comedy.

They invited James Corden! :)

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Sun May 20, 2018 5:55 pm

The estimated total annual cost of the monarchy is £345m

The monarchy is expensive, very expensive. Of course it wouldn't matter if it were free - the cost to our democracy would still be too high - but when the palace tells you it's "value-for-money", don't believe them. We could get much better for far less.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Sun May 20, 2018 6:00 pm

He didn't fight for his country either, it was just an extended photo opportunity/PR exercise. He was hundreds of miles away from action and protected by an entire regiment of Ghurkas. Yet again, we basically paid for him to muck about. As for generating 1.8 Billion in tourism, what a load of old crap...

This claim is untrue and irrelevant. Even VisitBritain, our national tourist agency, can't find any evidence for it.

Chester Zoo, Stonehenge and the Roman Baths are all more successful tourist attractions than Windsor Castle, which is the only occupied royal residence to attract visitors in large numbers. If Windsor Castle was included in the Association of Leading Visitor Attractions (ALVA) list of top attractions it would come in at number 24.

Research shows that tourists come here for our world class museums, beautiful scenery, fantastic shopping and captivating history - not because they might catch a glimpse of Prince Andrew. In a republic, royal properties such as Buckingham Palace would be open all year round, so visitors that do want to explore our royal heritage would have even more opportunity to do so.

But, even if the claim were true, do we really want the whims of visiting tourists to determine what kind of political system we have?
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Paul Waine » Sun May 20, 2018 6:06 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:The estimated total annual cost of the monarchy is £345m

The monarchy is expensive, very expensive. Of course it wouldn't matter if it were free - the cost to our democracy would still be too high - but when the palace tells you it's "value-for-money", don't believe them. We could get much better for far less.
That figure is familiar, Wasn't something like on the side of a bus one time?

If we want to calculate the cost of the UK's constitutional monarchy we need to compare the state's/taxpayers payments to the cost of the monarchy with the alternative expense of another form of head of state...

Many countries have presidents in addition to prime ministers.

Having worked out those costs, we should then look at the tourist revenue that is earned through people wanting to "see the Queen" and all the rest of the ceremonial stuff that goes with the monarchy.

Maybe the UK taxpayer isn't doing too badly...
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Spijed » Sun May 20, 2018 6:17 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Having worked out those costs, we should then look at the tourist revenue that is earned through people wanting to "see the Queen" and all the rest of the ceremonial stuff that goes with the monarchy.
Makes you wonder how a country like France can still get more tourists:
http://www.dw.com/en/france-is-still-to ... a-39949186" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by timshorts » Mon May 21, 2018 5:25 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:a huge expensive charade, a collection of privileged toffs, monied and titled landowning elites. All those with rugby union , army officer connections.
Polo, lavish housing, on grand estates.
BBC goes into overdrive, as do the red tops, and idiots ranting on about clothes, and shaming anyone who doesnt drool over this drivel.
It looked like a huge PR job , milking the faux love in with the USA.
Millions living in abject poverty, government cuts are rife, and we are meant to doff our collective caps to these saps.
Hmmmm. I've been to one of these weddings, but I thought you were referring to a VW polo and live on a housing estate.

However, I 100% agree with the sentiment in the second half of your post, and this time preferred to watch Cefn Druids v Cardiff Met which was on at the same time (I think).

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Spijed » Mon May 21, 2018 5:30 pm

I could have sworn that some said the Brexit vote was a cry from those who felt the establishment were out of touch and yet here we are with those same people celebrating an establishment wedding.
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by TheFamilyCat » Mon May 21, 2018 7:13 pm

Claret-On-A-T-Rex wrote:The estimated total annual cost of the monarchy is £345m

The monarchy is expensive, very expensive. Of course it wouldn't matter if it were free - the cost to our democracy would still be too high - but when the palace tells you it's "value-for-money", don't believe them. We could get much better for far less.
We certainly could. I would do it for much less. When is the contract up for tender?

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by KRBFC » Mon May 21, 2018 7:32 pm

A day for all snowflake feminine males to enjoy, half of the clowns on here were probably sat glued to the TV with a painted face waving a British flag while sobbing ''happy'' tears.
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by tiger76 » Mon May 21, 2018 8:00 pm

Spijed wrote:Makes you wonder how a country like France can still get more tourists:
http://www.dw.com/en/france-is-still-to ... a-39949186" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A tale of two towers they have got the Eiffel Tower we have got Blackpool Tower ;)

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Stayingup » Mon May 21, 2018 8:53 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:a huge expensive charade, a collection of privileged toffs, monied and titled landowning elites. All those with rugby union , army officer connections.
Polo, lavish housing, on grand estates.
BBC goes into overdrive, as do the red tops, and idiots ranting on about clothes, and shaming anyone who doesnt drool over this drivel.
It looked like a huge PR job , milking the faux love in with the USA.
Millions living in abject poverty, government cuts are rife, and we are meant to doff our collective caps to these saps.
We're meant to doff our caps? Where did you get that from you prick?

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by FactualFrank » Mon May 21, 2018 9:00 pm

I just sahred it.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by boatshed bill » Mon May 21, 2018 9:08 pm

The money "they" bring in from tourism is the biggest load of ******** ever printed.
Tourists rarely see the royals, they come to see the buildings.
some would have you believe noboby has visited Versailles since the French revolution
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon May 21, 2018 9:21 pm

I just shake my head on threads like this.

The average poster on here has a far better life than Harry. These days the average person can have the best phone, the best entertainment, a comfortable warm home, plenty of food, privacy and a normal working and family life. Harry has no privacy, a history of family trauma, a life spent on the move around the world and a £30m security bill probably because 30m people around the world want him wasted. He looked like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders during the service (probably thinking of his Mum).

I choose to give him a break.

Nobody else in the world could have done what we did on Saturday - for a brief moment, we were the best nation on earth again, away from the envy, spite and moaning. Apart from the pundits discussing fashion choices, it was great.
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by South West Claret. » Mon May 21, 2018 9:35 pm

Any news of the divorce yet?
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by dermotdermot » Mon May 21, 2018 10:37 pm

Irrespective of the Royal Family's many faults, it is far better to retain them. The alternative, according to Corbyn, is to opt for an elected head of state. He obviously see's this elected head of state as someone not unlike himself. A person who would spread divisiveness not only amongst the population but between his own party as well. A person who would lie through his back teeth to achieve power and then impose his will undemocratically on his subjects. He would then relinquish our nuclear deterrent, all but abolish our armed forces and expect us all to have faith in our Russian friends. The annihilation of the Israeli state would be encouraged to pacify our friends in Hamas and Hezbollah. In short we we will be ruled by a despot. A tyrant. A totalitarian. An all round nasty piece of work.

Yes, I think that it would be best to turn a blind eye to one or two of the Royal Family's slightly comical raised eyebrow moments and stick with them.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Claret-On-A-T-Rex » Tue May 22, 2018 9:19 am

tiger76 wrote:A tale of two towers they have got the Eiffel Tower we have got Blackpool Tower ;)
Don't forget, we've also got Grenfell Tower, it's right next door to where they had their ridiculous 30m wedding.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by UpTheBeehole » Tue May 22, 2018 9:25 am

No one talks more complete bo11ocks than Crosspool.

A masterclass from him last night.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by Lancasterclaret » Tue May 22, 2018 9:29 am

Not massively bothered by the whole thing, but the lack of any real alternative having any sort of support means they will be here for a while yet.

And lets face it, we don't do massive change very well in this country.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by karatekid » Tue May 22, 2018 9:30 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:No one talks more complete bo11ocks than Crosspool.

A masterclass from him last night.
You forgot the IMO

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by tiger76 » Tue May 22, 2018 10:41 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Not massively bothered by the whole thing, but the lack of any real alternative having any sort of support means they will be here for a while yet.

And lets face it, we don't do massive change very well in this country.
If after Lizzie's passing the Royals decide to pack it in,do we need an alternative there is already the HOC and the HOL plus various devolved institutions we could copy some European countries and have a ceremonial president i suppose,but i don't see the need for an elected president/head of state.

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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by JohnMcGreal » Tue May 22, 2018 11:05 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:I just shake my head on threads like this.

The average poster on here has a far better life than Harry. These days the average person can have the best phone, the best entertainment, a comfortable warm home, plenty of food, privacy and a normal working and family life. Harry has no privacy, a history of family trauma, a life spent on the move around the world and a £30m security bill probably because 30m people around the world want him wasted. He looked like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders during the service (probably thinking of his Mum).
Deluded nonsense.
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Re: The Royal wedding

Post by bluelabrador16 » Tue May 22, 2018 12:47 pm

Meghan Markle’s sick dad Thomas ‘snubbed by royals as he WON’T be granted a coat of arms’

Thomas Markle had thrown the Royal Wedding plans into chaos after pulling out of today’s ceremony

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