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ElectroClaret
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by ElectroClaret » Thu May 19, 2022 11:28 pm
RickyBobby wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 11:16 pm
Leeds have the much easier game...
Brentford are unbeaten in their last four home games, conceding 0 goals. Zero.
Beating West Ham, United and Southampton and drawing with Spurs.
They're in tremendous form and if they carry it on, Leeds won't have a prayer.
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by Rileybobs » Thu May 19, 2022 11:29 pm
It’s a nerve-wracking proposition, but tonight’s point was huge - in the same way that Leeds’ was against Brighton. There would have been nothing worse than turning up on Sunday knowing that whatever we do may not be good enough. We are one win from what was at one point an almost impossible survival. It’s in our hands, and we have a potential safety net that regardless of our result, if Leeds lose we survive.
I know I’m staying the obvious there, but the momentum has swung firmly in our favour. Let’s hope there’s not another swing.
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by DCWat » Thu May 19, 2022 11:30 pm
FCBurnley wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 11:26 pm
We must appeal today’s red. But our fate is back in our own hands. In Jacko we trust. My only concern is that Leeds will kick their way to victory. Brentford won’t want risk severe injuries and spoil what has been a great season for them.
My biggest concern is Saint Maximin - he usually puts in a 10/10 against us. It’d be lovely to see us getting some real pace into our team, this summer.
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by Spijed » Thu May 19, 2022 11:33 pm
At least we know Brentford will be doing their best to win not least because of the bad feeling between both clubs.
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by Tall Paul » Thu May 19, 2022 11:33 pm
ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 11:28 pm
Brentford are unbeaten in their last four home games, conceding 0 goals. Zero.
Beating West Ham, United and Southampton and drawing with Spurs.
They're in tremendous form and if they carry it on, Leeds won't have a prayer.
It's like any semblance of logic goes out of the window.
We have the easier game on Sunday by quite a margin.
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by mybloodisclaret » Thu May 19, 2022 11:48 pm
I wouldn't say we have an easier game, Newcastle are in great form and were absolutely fantastic against Arsenal. That said, a sold out Turf Moor, us fighting for our lives and the togetherness that we have shown I think counts. Set up like we did at Spurs and tonight and we will hopefully get there.
By the way what a massive lift it would be for Mee and Jay to be on the bench!
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by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu May 19, 2022 11:48 pm
I'm half expecting if both Burnley and Leeds are winning by a couple of goals at halftime VAR will award Leeds 37 dodgy penalties second half to get the goal difference closer
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by THEWELLERNUT70 » Thu May 19, 2022 11:52 pm
Just be happy we've got to the final game with destiny in our own hands. 6 weeks ago we were dead and buried (and I maintain that would be the case if the change hadn't been made)
Bring in Sunday
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by Burnleyareback2 » Thu May 19, 2022 11:58 pm
We are in the best position- Leeds would swap that any day of the week.
The main thing for me is that we have taken it to the last game, we are still fighting.
If on Sunday night the worst has happened then we can still hold our heads up high.
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by jedi_master » Fri May 20, 2022 12:02 am
Two draws coming up - goal difference to save us.
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Elizabeth
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by Elizabeth » Fri May 20, 2022 12:10 am
The one thing I'm happy about after tonight's important point is that it removes my biggest worry that we would beat Newcastle but still go down.
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by SydneyClaret » Fri May 20, 2022 1:08 am
Not convinced anyone will be going easy but I can’t see either Howe or Wood taking any pleasure whatsoever in relegating their former club. Wood especially. As he played the first half of the season for us it will count as a relegation on his career stats.
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by LongSider75 » Fri May 20, 2022 3:22 am
Just beat Newcastle. End of.
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by leelad » Fri May 20, 2022 5:48 am
Home advantage on the last day should (you would like to think) help us here. After two tough games on the road, playing back at the Turf on the last day must give the whole team a lift before a ball is kicked.
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by RVclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 6:32 am
SydneyClaret wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 1:08 am
Not convinced anyone will be going easy but I can’t see either Howe or Wood taking any pleasure whatsoever in relegating their former club. Wood especially. As he played the first half of the season for us it will count as a relegation on his career stats.
He won’t be playing, it’ll be Wilson
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by evensteadiereddie » Fri May 20, 2022 8:39 am
Tall Paul wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 10:48 pm
It's far from a coin toss, we're now 2/1 to be relegated. That means we're twice as likely to stay up than Leeds are.
Quite correct, the bookies deal with statistics and probabilities.
Of the nine outcomes of the two games,
BFC win, Leeds win.
BFC win, Leeds draw.
BFC win, Leeds lose.
BFC draw, Leeds draw.
BFC draw, Leeds lose.
BFC draw Leeds win.
BFC lose, Leeds lose.
BFC lose, Leeds draw.
BFC lose, Leeds win
Six of those results will see us safe, three won't, so we really do have twice as much chance as Leeds of staying up.
It's only theory, of course, but we should not only be confident on Sunday but fight to the death determined.
If we have to rough them up, niggle, scrap and so on so be it.
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Elizabeth
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by Elizabeth » Fri May 20, 2022 8:42 am
Never thought I'd say it but I'll be happy if Joelinton is not playing
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by groove » Fri May 20, 2022 11:12 am
Paul Tierney is refereeing the Brentford Leeds game on Sunday.
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by tiger76 » Fri May 20, 2022 11:20 am
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 8:42 am
Never thought I'd say it but I'll be happy if Joelinton is not playing
He won their player of the season award, and under Eddie has been a revelation in his new midfield role, definitely a goal threat on Sunday, but he's by no means their only one.
ATM I'd make us marginal favs to survive, but it'll be a nervy afternoon I sense with all the twists and turns no doubt.
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by Targetman » Fri May 20, 2022 1:50 pm
Sunny Cornwall wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 10:37 pm
We were very poor tonight except Nick Pope. If we don’t play better on Sunday we will go down!
Even if Leeds lose?
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by FCBurnley » Fri May 20, 2022 3:14 pm
Sunny Cornwall wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 10:37 pm
We were very poor tonight except Nick Pope. If we don’t play better on Sunday we will go down!
So you expect Leeds to get a result ?
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by FCBurnley » Fri May 20, 2022 3:17 pm
groove wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 11:12 am
Paul Tierney is refereeing the Brentford Leeds game on Sunday.
Based on last night Dirty Leeds will probably break the record for the most red cards in one game !!
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by KateR » Fri May 20, 2022 3:35 pm
I was confident Brighton would beat Leeds, that last minute goal was a sickener. I thought we could get a draw against AV and at half time looking at the results was on a high, the second results made me feel down from a state of elation and nerves being very calm. It was a good point but it should have been 3 and I do feel we were robbed and it's not often I've felt like that.
Given how many times we have won since Christmas against how many times Newcastle have won, I think it will be five at the back again and try to ensure they don't score while getting a breakaway goal to snatch it. I believe home advantage for this one match gives us a slight margin, coupled with our GD I know I'd rather be in our position than Leeds.
I also predicted Leeds will draw on Sunday but if it was form then they lose, but that last minute equalizer means it's not just the last game but we could be looking at the last minute, where them or us could be throwing the kitchen sink at the opposition. All I'm sure of I don't want to go through this again ever!
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by AwayClaret » Fri May 20, 2022 3:37 pm
Brentford will do them on the counter big time. Leeds won't win so we need a draw.


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by Stanbill05 » Fri May 20, 2022 3:57 pm
Tall Paul wrote: ↑Thu May 19, 2022 10:48 pm
It's far from a coin toss, we're now 2/1 to be relegated. That means we're twice as likely to stay up than Leeds are.
Yep. I'm very tempted to go in very heavy on Burnley to get relegated. Currently 12/5. I did the same for the Sheff Utd play off and was delighted to lose quite a lot of money. Might soften the blow if the worst was to happen is the theory...
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by RVclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 4:03 pm
Stanbill05 wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 3:57 pm
Yep. I'm very tempted to go in very heavy on Burnley to get relegated. Currently 12/5. I did the same for the Sheff Utd play off and was delighted to lose quite a lot of money. Might soften the blow if the worst was to happen is the theory...
Close to doing this myself
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by evensteadiereddie » Fri May 20, 2022 6:38 pm
I put my Everton beating Chelsea winnings on the Clarets to go down, then at 3 / 1.
I stand to win £150 if the worst happens but I'd much rather see us stay up.
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by Elizabeth » Fri May 20, 2022 6:54 pm
As bad a season as it's been if we are relegated on Sunday I will always think we should have survived
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by tiger76 » Fri May 20, 2022 9:04 pm
Elizabeth wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 6:54 pm
As bad a season as it's been if we are relegated on Sunday I will always think we should have survived
Yes curiously enough should we now be relegated it would be a bitter pill to swallow, whereas if we'd gone down 3/4 weeks ago, although we'd have been naturally disappointed it wouldn't have come as a huge surprise, now there is actually something for us to lose on the last day there is a different mindset for the fans, that said I'd still rather be in our shoes than Leeds right now.
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by warksclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 9:30 pm
evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2022 8:39 am
Quite correct, the bookies deal with statistics and probabilities.
Of the nine outcomes of the two games,
BFC win, Leeds win.
BFC win, Leeds draw.
BFC win, Leeds lose.
BFC draw, Leeds draw.
BFC draw, Leeds lose.
BFC draw Leeds win.
BFC lose, Leeds lose.
BFC lose, Leeds draw.
BFC lose, Leeds win
Six of those results will see us safe, three won't, so we really do have twice as much chance as Leeds of staying up.
It's only theory, of course, but we should not only be confident on Sunday but fight to the death determined.
If we have to rough them up, niggle, scrap and so on so be it.
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by warksclaret » Fri May 20, 2022 9:30 pm
Technically in our favour-but its not that easy.On the day anything can happen
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by evensteadiereddie » Fri May 20, 2022 10:07 pm
Correct. We're Burnley after all. Expect the unexpected.