Sacha Tovolieri - From the Beehole End

[Pickles]

We've gone from the best season we've ever had in the Championship to being an absolute car crash in the space of 12 months

Bit premature to say absolute car crash.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I have read your posts since the club took a downturn following better performances, and suddenly you become more active, most of which being your usual negative approach to the club. Why don’t you keep to a message board you actually support rather then this one where you don’t have a right word for ?

Are you just sick of me being right all the time? Just because I’m a realist doesn’t mean I’m negative.

I’m just don’t fall for all the PR bullshit that gets pedalled. The likes of Newclaret and RV eat all of that stuff up.

Why do people keep saying our better spells etc…. We had 5 or 6 games we weren’t totally useless. We have been crap all season including this so called good spell

[NewClaret]

From what i have been told from someone close to the club is that Pace looking to bring in another assistant to help out is true. They also told me that Pace wasn't looking for an older head and experience but another name. The name was Ashley Cole as mentioned in the original tweet.

An assistant with no experience? That would be a good idea!

[DCWat]

This has the makings of a **** show of a summer, the consequences of which could be felt for a long, long time.

It’s to be hoped that Pace is more astute than some of the comments on this thread are suggesting.

Losing Kompany now (despite a really poor season) would make for an even bigger job than the one he undertook in the summer of 2022.

Do I have faith in Pace and his team to find the right man for the task? Despite him bringing Kompany in, I have serious doubts.

Do we have the wherewithal to unpick and restart our scouting and recruitment in the space of a few months? How wedded to Kompany and MUD are we!?

Do we have the saleable assets and indeed suitors to allow us to manage the debt whilst providing a new manager with the funds to put together a squad capable of promotion!?

[ClaretOfMancunia]

I can forgive Kompany if he got the Bayern call out of the blue. It's an opportunity too big to pass up.

If he was plotting his exit during our relegation battle and will jump ship for any bigger opportunity as Sacha is claiming, that's different and makes Kompany out to be a bit of a snake. And I don't think he is.

[ksrclaret]

What a circus.

We've got the Chairman of the club engaging in childish social media posts with a third-rate journalist, he then has a private chat with him to supposedly clear the air, meanwhile said third-rate journalist is telling all and sundry about their conversation, and no doubt embellishing everything.

So glad the club is in such safe hands. Bunch of plonkers.

[RVclaret]

An absolute car crash. Jesus wept.

[Swizzlestick]

Wait, what on earth has this got to do with the club? I know it’s open season for some at that moment, but some journalist speaking ******** on a podcast is just that.

[123EasyasBFC]

What a circus.

We've got the Chairman of the club engaging in childish social media posts with a third-rate journalist, he then has a private chat with him to supposedly clear the air, meanwhile said third-rate journalist is telling all and sundry about their conversation, and no doubt embellishing everything.

So glad the club is in such safe hands. Bunch of plonkers.

I I was called out last night for saying the fact our ownership aren’t football people they got lucky last season.

We have an estate agent who has a bullsh*t title of fan experience. Russell ball will of never stepped foot in a football ground till he got the job at Burnley

[agreenwood]

Wait, what on earth has this got to do with the club? I know it’s open season for some at that moment, but some journalist speaking ******** on a podcast is just that.

Any opportunity I suppose. Used to it now.

[ksrclaret]

Wait, what on earth has this got to do with the club? I know it’s open season for some at that moment, but some journalist speaking ******** on a podcast is just that.

Come on. This journalist only spoke to the Chairman to get this "information" because they had a childish interaction on social media.

No conversation = no story.

[JR1882]

Championship not good for his profile?? Hasn’t seem to bother him all season has it we’ve been headed there since week 1.

[agreenwood]

Championship not good for his profile?? Hasn’t seem to bother him all season has it we’ve been headed there since week 1.

Criticising Kompany for things that are demonstrably true (our performance) is one thing. Having a pop at him based on something a rumour peddler on twitter has said is quite another.

[forzagranata]

He didn't say we wanted Robins as an assistant,

What he said - to paraphrase was - that when he reported we were looking at options (Robins/Ashley Cole etc) he thought it was for in case VK left.

But he now has been told the club were looking for a coach to come in to help VK.

[jedi_master]

He didn't say we wanted Robins as an assistant,

What he said - to paraphrase was - that when he reported we were looking at options (Robins/Ashley Cole etc) he thought it was for in case VK left.

But he now has been told the club were looking for a coach to come in to help VK.

Aye, clearly poorly worded by me as a couple have now questioned that point in this thread. I did try to say exactly what you’ve said, it’s just been misinterpreted by how I did it!

I maintain that is the oddest bit of the entire interview.

[ksrclaret]

He didn't say we wanted Robins as an assistant,

What he said - to paraphrase was - that when he reported we were looking at options (Robins/Ashley Cole etc) he thought it was for in case VK left.

But he now has been told the club were looking for a coach to come in to help VK.

How strange that he should report we were looking at Robins then when it turns out were supposedly looking for an assistant coach. Presumably he just made it up.

[Jakubs Tash]

Are you just sick of me being right all the time?

Hilarious!

[Jakubs Tash]

I enjoy listening to this podcast and look forward to the new episodes coming out. However, I think I’ll give this one a swerve after reading this thread and following what Sacha has been saying on Twitter/X. Sounds like he’s had too many e numbers and has got a bit giddy.

[NewClaret]

An absolute car crash. Jesus wept.

The only thing that’s an absolute car crash is the over reaction and incessant negativity to every single piece of Burnley-related news on here

[quoonbeatz]

It's weird how these transfer rumour guys get so much airtime, people hanging off their every tweet. Cool mate, you heard about something that may or may not happen before most other people. Fair play to them for making a career of it but they're about as much use to the sport as agents.

[123EasyasBFC]

It's weird how these transfer rumour guys get so much airtime, people hanging off their every tweet. Cool mate, you heard about something that may or may not happen before most other people. Fair play to them for making a career of it but they're about as much use to the sport as agents.

They post that much stuff, something is bound to stick

[NewClaret]

It's weird how these transfer rumour guys get so much airtime, people hanging off their every tweet. Cool mate, you heard about something that may or may not happen before most other people. Fair play to them for making a career of it but they're about as much use to the sport as agents.

Sadly it’s silly season so we’re in for a good period of it now.

Not sure what I enjoy least - 9 months of **** results or 3 months of these guys taking ****.

[ksrclaret]

It's weird how these transfer rumour guys get so much airtime, people hanging off their every tweet. Cool mate, you heard about something that may or may not happen before most other people. Fair play to them for making a career of it but they're about as much use to the sport as agents.

It’s beyond sad.

Yesterday and today one of the Twitter guys from Germany posted an update on Kompany to Bayern, and within a few minutes it was copied and pasted on to here.

Some people must live on these guys’ Twitter feeds desperate to find out some news.

[quoonbeatz]

They post that much stuff, something is bound to stick

Who really gives a fu(k though? Transfers are only interesting if they happen. Them and their followers are well desperate.

[GordonvaleClaret]

Living up to his name. He's only half a cake.

[Vegas Claret]

Bit premature to say absolute car crash.

yes, it was more of a hypothetical statement (But I agree it wasn't very clear !!)

[aggi]

Can't say I really know who this bloke is so I googled him. Most of the first lot of hits just seemed to be him getting stuff wrong (Lavia and Alonso to Liverpool, Arnaut Danjuma to Lyon in the first few).

[Goliath]

We need Alan Pace out of our club

[KRBFC]

So it sounds like there is an interest in Robins then haha.

All of this is pretty concerning reading.

Why? you should be delighted at the prospect of Kompany leaving, you’ve been begging for it all season long.

[KRBFC]

If I was Kompany, I’d want out too, ungrateful toxic shitty entitled fanbase.

[Raconteur]

The story wasn't even an exclusive from Sacha. So it's not like he made it up. He obviously read the story like a lot of us, he then put the info in a tweet and then got told off by Pace.

https://tbrfootball.com/exclusive-burnl ... successor/

[mybloodisclaret]

We need Alan Pace out of our club

The return of Mike? Give over.

[CoolClaret]

If I was Kompany, I’d want out too, ungrateful toxic shitty entitled fanbase.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocrite

[Newcastleclaret93]

If I was Kompany, I’d want out too, ungrateful toxic shitty entitled fanbase.

Hahahhahahahaha

[taio]

If I was Kompany, I’d want out too, ungrateful toxic shitty entitled fanbase.

Two problems with this:

1) As noted above, your hypocrisy is beyond belief after your relentless, extreme, toxic and shitty criticism of Dyche

2) Best not to generalise about our fan base based on what's said on this messageboard or on social media. I would say a better measure is the tone from fans who attend the games - on the whole, they have been patient and supportive despite a very difficult and frustrating season.

[bumba]

If I was Kompany, I’d want out too, ungrateful toxic shitty entitled fanbase.

Dyche was way more successful than VK with us but you gave him nothing but pelters

[Rick_Muller]

Christ. It’s all a bit embarrassing really. The clubs turning into a social media soap opera.

Whipping up a frenzy for Mission 2 Burnley I’m sure

[superdimitri]

I know the podcast consists of journalists so for them to believe Sacha makes sense. As Justin said; "he hasn't plucked this out of thin air.." . However I can't help but think all the guy is doing is embellishing the truth.

Ford was much more believable and realistic. This doesn't seem anything more than someone close to Kompany who knows someone at Bayern touting him as an option. Even if Kompany talked to someone he knows at Bayerm it means precious little unless a deal is offered.

I miss the days of proper rumors rather than rumors of rumors based on speculation. I can't believe none of the podcast were sitting there thinking he wasn't making stuff up as he goes because it seemed pretty clear to me he was lying.

Anyway, if he does leave it's not a huge deal IMO. We are much more suited to a Dyche like manager anyway if we want long term stability. Not necessarily down to his football but more because he's not a fashionable name that'll leave easily in the future. Kompany will always look at leaving to a bigger club ASAP.

[claretonthecoast1882]

If Sacha was approached to go on and he said yes you would have to imagine he was delighted to find a gullible host who would give him airtime.

If Sacha approached them, then the fact this took place is even more daft.

[AGENT_CLARET]

We need Alan Pace out of our club

The guy who brought Vincent Kompany in who brought our best season for over 60 year's and delivered us a title on the ground of our nearest rival that Alan Pace....... OKAY

[Newcastleclaret93]

The guy who brought Vincent Kompany in who brought our best season for over 60 year's and delivered us a title on the ground of our nearest rival that Alan Pace....... OKAY

Or the guy who has given us the worst season in our clubs history, two relegations in 3 years, the academy has gone backwards and loads of debt, that Alan Pace ……… OKAY

You can spin anything to make it fit your agenda if you try hard enough.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Or the guy who has given us the worst season in our clubs history, two relegations in 3 years, the academy has gone backwards and loads of debt, that Alan Pace ……… OKAY

You can spin anything to make it fit your agenda if you try hard enough.

1986/87 Season, Nothing else to say

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[Stockbrokerbelt]

The guy who brought Vincent Kompany in who brought our best season for over 60 year's and delivered us a title on the ground of our nearest rival that Alan Pace....... OKAY

Buddy, no point dealing in facts with some folk, what most of them know is made up or quotes from so called football pundits! As for some of the rumours on the internet it’s just laughable but some people think anything that is said on the internet is gospel. Sky sports are the worst, any of their pages have links or adverts for their betting sites.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Nothing else to say


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I knew it, get called out and that the immediate response would be name calling.

Standard your point is even worse. We won or drew 25 games that season.

[boatshed bill]

Or the guy who has given us the worst season in our clubs history, two relegations in 3 years, the academy has gone backwards and loads of debt, that Alan Pace ……… OKAY

The worst season in the club's history?
I think there have been many worse.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The worst season in the club's history?
I think there have been many worse.

Nope we have never won less points in a season (3 point season).

[boatshed bill]

Nope we have never won less points in a season (3 point season).

I think sitting at the bottom of the 4th Division is a bit worse, don't you?

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think sitting at the bottom of the 4th Division is a bit worse, don't you?

That’s a collective of numerous seasons regression.

In a stand alone season, in terms of number of wins, draws, points we have never had a worse season.

[123EasyasBFC]

That’s a collective of numerous seasons regression.

In a stand alone season, in terms of number of wins, draws, points we have never had a worse season.

How can you compare a stand alone season in the prem to a season in the old division 3.

Which generated the club more money?

[Newcastleclaret93]

How can you compare a stand alone season in the prem to a season in the old division 3.

Which generated the club more money?

Really easily. The money is a stupid point as that is not what dictates a seasons success. Points do.

Stats wise this is our worst season ever.

From what I can tell even in that 86-87 season they had more than twice as many wins as we did this season.