Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Procrastinate B » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:34 pm

Robbie_painter wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:27 pm
Fairly sure that was against Walsall in the cup (not sure which cup)
That was the one, yes.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Ric_C » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:36 pm

Don't know why there is such a fuss about this. If a match is abandoned due to bad weather, it has always been a full replay. People are acting as though this is some kind of unique occurrence.
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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:44 pm

The rules are simple and clear. Only debatable decision is if the red card should stand

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by FCBurnley » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:49 pm

I remember us playing at Bury in FAC in 1956 We were losing (2-0 I think) when game was correctly abandoned due to fog. Game was replayed and we won

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Stayingup » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:49 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:19 pm
Play full 90 mins replay.
B+++ds to pay for all Ipswich Towns expenses, including travel, accommodation meals etc ( venkys chicken meal deal).
Also to reimburse all tractor boys fans there travelling expenses and tickets .
B++++ds pitch is totally crap and not fit for purpose.crap drainage.
It rained all day at the Turf...not a puddle in sight.
Its the river behind the aptly named Roverside stand. If that bursts its banks then it floods the pitch. Its been a problem for them for a long time.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by turfytopper » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:55 pm

I've just read the game will be replayed in full.
To avoid a repeat it has been agreed that players will play in team coloured swimming trunks and boots will be replaced with flippers. In a break from current protocol all players will be allowed to wear armbands, but they must be inflatable.
B@stard Rovers are to be renamed B@stard River

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Vintage Claret » Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:59 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:36 pm
Don't know why there is such a fuss about this. If a match is abandoned due to bad weather, it has always been a full replay.
That's what I thought.

Yes, it's unfortunate for Rovers and of course we'd be a bit miffed if match was called off with us winning against 10 men with 10 mins or so to play but can't really see any fair alternative to a full replay and 11 v 11 as it's impossible to know if Rovers would definitely have won the game (and definitely not had anyone sent off themselves ) had it been played to its conclusion on the day.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by warksclaret » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:08 pm

Replay game in full, with Blackburn starting it with a 1-0 advantage. The Ipswich player sent off would be ineligible but Ipswich could start with a full eleven

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:09 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:51 pm
Common sense says play the last 10 mins 11 v 10. I think frankly if you took out how much money a point or three could be worth to Ipswich it would be the decent thing for them to just concede defeat.
You think common sense says to take an unprecedented course of action that the vast majority disagree with? Unless I’ve missed the sarcasm here.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Holmechapel » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:09 pm

City were beating Luton by either 6-0 or 6-2 in an FA cup match and I think Law had scored most of the goals ,and that was abandoned and replayed in full ,think it was 3-1 in the rematch.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Holmechapel » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:11 pm

Give the Rovers 3 points and then at the end of the season if they’re near the bottom or in the play offs deduct them 3 points for having a **** pitch.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Claretitus » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:12 pm

Just relegate the 💩 Turds to the National League. Then the EFL won’t need to intervene in their affairs any more.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by beeholeclaret » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:12 pm

I remember reading about this happening in 1961

from google AI - "Yes, Denis Law scored six goals in a single FA Cup match for Manchester City against Luton Town on January 28, 1961, but these goals did not count in the record books because the game was abandoned due to a waterlogged pitch with 20 minutes remaining. City were leading 6-2 at the time of the abandonment, but the match was replayed, and Luton won the replay 3-1, eliminating City from the competition"

I think Denis scored City's goal in the3-1 defeat also.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:16 pm

Ipswich even with ten men should be able to overcome those dollopers.

A rematch, which Ipswich will win.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:17 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 3:59 pm
If they go down the 10 minutes route they could just do it at Ipswich's training ground the day before/after the return fixture. That is a little unfair on Rovers but it really is their fault they couldn't finish the game.
I was thinking something similar

At the game at Portman Road, play the 90mins as planned
Finish that game, then play the “remaining” 10 mins from the weekends game, with the same player removed that was sent off, or the player that was playing in that position
The tiredness would be replicated so the “freshness” argument is mitigated and it’s no extra cost for anybody

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by ClaretLoup » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:17 pm

I am surprised nobody so far has brought up perhaps the most famous abandonment in recent Claret's history i.e. the FA Cup tie at the Baseball Ground in 1992, when the game was stopped with only 15 minutes remaining with Derby 2 - 0 up and set to go through to the next round.

I'll never forget driving back to Suffolk that night with visibility down to about 10 yards but quietly satisfied that we would get "another bite of the cherry" when the game was replayed on the Saturday FAC Round 4 day. We lost of course, but I don't think anyone who was there will forget that game either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wpZibqItuU

BTW the date is incorrect on the title, it was January 1992 and not 1991.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:19 pm

Stayingup wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:49 pm
Its the river behind the aptly named Roverside stand. If that bursts its banks then it floods the pitch. Its been a problem for them for a long time.
You have this wrong.

They have a drainage pipe that runs from the ground to the river. It sits above the river normally, so drains easily.
When the river rises, water can't runaway fast enough as the pipe is in it.

It wouldn't take much to put something around the pipe to create space for the water to run out downstream.

They have cut back on all budgets down there, especially the ground.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Luppy » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:21 pm

Match will be replayed - nothing to do with it being Rovers etc. It’s just unfortunate for them. Seen some bizarre suggestions on from their fans 😂

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by basil6345789 » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:32 pm

Fine Rovrrrrrs for pitch neglect

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Tinribs » Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:37 pm

6pt reduction for Blackburn for having facilities not fit for the championship and game replayed at Ipswich

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by duncandisorderly » Tue Sep 23, 2025 7:01 pm

Why not just make the game a 0-0 draw.
Ipswich still have to suffer their suspension, both teams would likely have taken it before kick off (especially rovers), neither team has an unwanted replay - point each, move on.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Sep 23, 2025 7:08 pm

:cry:
Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:19 pm
You have this wrong.

They have a drainage pipe that runs from the ground to the river. It sits above the river normally, so drains easily.
When the river rises, water can't runaway fast enough as the pipe is in it.

It wouldn't take much to put something around the pipe to create space for the water to run out downstream.

They have cut back on all budgets down there, especially the ground.
What a tinpot outfit.

They have a sodding big river next door for water to run into which should put them at an advantage.

Fine them and award Ipswich the three points.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Clarets4me » Tue Sep 23, 2025 7:14 pm

If Blackburn were losing 1-0 under the same circumstances, would they want the game replayed in full ? Of course they would ...

The Red card will stand and the game will be replayed ...

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by bfcmik » Tue Sep 23, 2025 7:59 pm

Why would a red card in a non-game be still applicable? No other stats from the game, goalscorer, appearances, etc will be counted in the official stats.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Sep 24, 2025 7:28 am

Replay rules are quite clear and demand Deadwood pitch gets ripped up and a ground share with Stanley whilst it's done.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by clarets1978 » Wed Sep 24, 2025 8:13 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 4:33 pm
I was locked out of The Longside that day so had to stand on the Bee Hole. It was horrible.
I willingly stood on the Bee Hole that day. My friend had his young son with him, just before it was abandoned he joked he could be done for child cruelty we were all so wet :lol:

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by clarets1978 » Wed Sep 24, 2025 8:15 am

dsr wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:03 pm
We had another home abandoned match in vaguely that era, caused by floodlight failure. Might have been a cup tie. (NOT the Scarborough cup tie abandoned after the full time whistle (frozen pitch) but replayed at Turf Moor because they hadn't been able to play extra time.)
Ive never been as cold as I was that night. And to find that i'd stood watching us for 90 minutes (and it was 0-0) for no reason didnt help

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by groove » Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:41 am

If the result was to stand, it would set a precedent, and therefore clubs could possibly instigate floodlight failures for example. Safe in the knowledge that after 80 minutes the points are safe. I think the only logical outcome is to replay the whole game, or the remaining 10 minutes plus stoppage time. But, would they have to use the original players at the time of abandonment? This may not be possible due to injuries etc. And Blackburn could select a defensive line up, which wasn't possible to utilise in the last minutes of the original game. I think a complete replay of the full 90 is the only logical outcome.
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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:54 pm

groove wrote:
Thu Sep 25, 2025 11:41 am
If the result was to stand, it would set a precedent, and therefore clubs could possibly instigate floodlight failures for example. Safe in the knowledge that after 80 minutes the points are safe. I think the only logical outcome is to replay the whole game, or the remaining 10 minutes plus stoppage time. But, would they have to use the original players at the time of abandonment? This may not be possible due to injuries etc. And Blackburn could select a defensive line up, which wasn't possible to utilise in the last minutes of the original game. I think a complete replay of the full 90 is the only logical outcome.
I don't disagree, but with a full replay clubs could also instigate a floodlight failure if losing with a few minutes to go to force a rematch.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by groove » Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:11 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Thu Sep 25, 2025 12:54 pm
I don't disagree, but with a full replay clubs could also instigate a floodlight failure if losing with a few minutes to go to force a rematch.
Good point.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by dandeclaret » Thu Sep 25, 2025 1:12 pm

I believe the outcome will be fair. I understand it will be a full replay, and a huge fine for the home team for failing to provide adequate facilities to complete a game.

Hopefully.....
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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:11 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:44 pm
The rules are simple and clear. Only debatable decision is if the red card should stand
The red card isn’t debatable. It stands.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Quicknick » Thu Sep 25, 2025 2:12 pm

Replay the whole game.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:12 pm

Correct decision made - the game will be replayed in full

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:14 pm

Comment from Ewood


The club is now seeking further clarity from the EFL and will consider all options, including the right to appeal the decision, and will make no further comment on the matter at this stage.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:18 pm

‘The right to appeal’ :mrgreen:

Away win.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:19 pm

It said the 3 Championship directors abstained on the vote.

No idea what this means but anyone who is in a role and abstains on any vote should be banned from voting on future matters.

Pleasing and amusing verdict though, just hope they go down now by 2 points.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by NottsClaret » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:26 pm

It'll happen again this season with them, they've not spent owt on that dump for years. They should be relegated down to a level more befitting their pitch. I see Chorley finished their game on the same day, so anywhere below them will do.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by woody » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:34 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:19 pm
It said the 3 Championship directors abstained on the vote.

No idea what this means but anyone who is in a role and abstains on any vote should be banned from voting on future matters.

Pleasing and amusing verdict though, just hope they go down now by 2 points.
To be fair I would assume that the directors from clubs in the same league have abstained as they could be seen to be trying to gain advantages for their clubs.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Falcon » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:36 pm

So unfair on Ipswich this, forcing them to be exposed to Blackburn TWICE. Poor buggers.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Ric_C » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:40 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:14 pm
Comment from Ewood


The club is now seeking further clarity from the EFL and will consider all options, including the right to appeal the decision, and will make no further comment on the matter at this stage.
I could semi see the indignation if Rovers were the away team here, but it was their shitty pitch that was at fault. It feels like they are stirring up some kind of social media storm and think they have a leg to stand on.

Well they don't. Suck it up bast@rds

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by MrTopTier » Thu Sep 25, 2025 3:45 pm

A real shame for Rovers that.

Hope Ipswich do the honourable thing.


By battering them 5-0 this time.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Leisure » Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:06 pm

Blackburn Rovers' Championship fixture against Ipswich Town is to be replayed in full following its abandonment on Saturday.

The fixture was called off in the 79th minute due to heavy rainfall at Ewood Park making the playing surface unplayable, with Blackburn leading 1-0 courtesy of Todd Cantwell's second-half penalty.

Cantwell's goal will now no longer stand given the game will be replayed, but Ipswich defender Jacob Greaves, who was sent off, will still have to serve a suspension.

In a statement, the EFL said a board meeting comprehensively considered all options available in accordance with the regulations and that it was decided "by a majority" that the game should be replayed in full.

"The decision follows recent precedents relating to abandoned fixtures and is intended to uphold the integrity of the league competition which should, wherever possible, be based on a complete set of fixtures played to a conclusion on the day," the statement said.

"The board recognised that this was an incredibly difficult decision and agreed to consult clubs on the best approach to the development of new guidance to be considered in the event of a match abandonment."

In addition, the EFL said that three Championship directors abstained from the vote.

A new date for the fixture will be confirmed by the respective clubs in due course.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by box_of_frogs » Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:14 pm

Shame :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by The Shire Claret » Thu Sep 25, 2025 4:55 pm

The Gods don’t like it when we both play at home at the same time

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Leon_C » Thu Sep 25, 2025 5:07 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue Sep 23, 2025 6:19 pm
You have this wrong.

They have a drainage pipe that runs from the ground to the river. It sits above the river normally, so drains easily.
When the river rises, water can't runaway fast enough as the pipe is in it.

It wouldn't take much to put something around the pipe to create space for the water to run out downstream.

They have cut back on all budgets down there, especially the ground.
Without seeing the setup, if it's a single pipe (assuming it's a relatively large bore) then you might raise it, and use a pump in wet conditions. I suspect that somebody somewhere at their club has considered that.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Quicknick » Thu Sep 25, 2025 5:17 pm

To be replayed: good decision.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by Commy » Thu Sep 25, 2025 5:19 pm

Will be fun if Ipswich now argue the red card due to the match being null and void :) . They can wipe a goal out but not a red card doesn't seem right somehow.

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Re: Rovers v Ipswich... What Should Happen?

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Sep 25, 2025 5:20 pm

Yes, the right decision arrived at in the end .
Ipswich and their fans traipsing north just to play
ten minutes plus added time would have been
ridiculous.

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