I must be old

normandeeley · Post by **normandeeley** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:04 am

because I remember when there were problems and not issues
when things were difficult and not challenging
when matters were important or vital or crucial and not just key (or, somehow worse) very key
when the word before was occasionally used instead of the apparently obligatory 'ahead of'.
As many will have already stopped reading I'll stop the list there.
I know that language is always developing otherwise we would be speaking 9th century Anglo-Saxon but I suppose what rankles with old curmudgeons is that much of the new usage comes from American business-speak.
Anyroad, having got that out of the way (and if anyone is still with me) what I'd like to know, as an exile who grew up in 50s East Lancs, is whether the old dialect words are still in use.
Do people still get oyned, do kids still laik about, does anyone still end up in Dicky's meadow (pronounced 'medda' of course), are things nowt na summat, do folk look 'arf starved or persist in moiderin' their elders? Do people still get in nowty moods or get reight powfagged?
I imagine the dialect (as opposed to the accent) is disappearing.

evensteadiereddie · Post by **evensteadiereddie** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:10 am

I still use oyned, summat, nowt, laik, reight and skrike down here in Staffordshire. The locals humour me.........
It is an age thing.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:16 am

60's kid's parlance

Worst insult - wazzock, prannock, bumweed

Playing about = laking

Something good was kiff or keen

Person who was miserly - jew, jewish (you have to remember the times so none of the mockrage please)

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:24 am

Catched.. E.G.. I catched him looking through a keyhole..

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:49 am

Getting old ?

A megabyte was a chomp at a cheeseburger, a mouse had traps set for it and microchips were little slices of fried potato

If a neighbour commented "Good grass" he was talking about your lawn....

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:52 pm

A sure sign of getting older is having to Google slebs you read about in the papers, and are still none the wiser.

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:54 pm

Aye, reight.

bfcmik · Post by **bfcmik** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:15 pm

Oined, sneck, skrike, summat. I still use these to the blank looks of folk down here in Solihull.

Man of Kent · Post by **Man of Kent** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:27 pm

Chobulous wrote:60's kid's parlance

Worst insult - wazzock, prannock, bumweed

Playing about = laking

Something good was kiff or keen

Person who was miserly - jew, jewish (you have to remember the times so none of the mockrage please)

Careful...the perpetually outraged with their hair trigger reaction sensors will be coming after you!

Chester Perry · Post by **Chester Perry** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 2:37 pm

The one that gets me the most is - "progressive" initially used as a differentiator to traditional now used as an obligatory adjunct to any perspective/activity to show that you are with the media elite - yeuch. By association if you are not progressive you are regressive - in football terms Burnley under Dyche has never been described as progressive, yet the progress of the club, from all possible angles ,has been so great in such a short period within a tight budget that if you used the term properly it would be a suitable term to describe his tenure

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:29 pm

If you're anything like me (bald) then you know you're getting old when your barber takes longer cutting the hairs in your ears than he does cutting the hairs on your head

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:56 pm

Of course folk still get oyned! What do you expect when Man City have Deborah Oyner on their side?

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:00 pm

mkmel wrote:If you're anything like me (bald) then you know you're getting old when your barber takes longer cutting the hairs in your ears than he does cutting the hairs on your head

Or when the new centre of attention is your eyebrows!

conyoviejo · Post by **conyoviejo** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:03 pm

Pstotto wrote:Of course folk still get oyned! What do you expect when Man City have Deborah Oyner on their side?

You are Phookin oyning sometimes

Mainly me not having the nous to understand some of your crazy posts..lol

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:09 pm

Mondsley · Post by **Mondsley** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:12 pm

Starting sentences with the word "So". For example - So I went out last night and had a great time. Done more when speaking than when writing but drives me up the wall!!!

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:17 pm

So I'm afraid that overcoming corporate bullsh!t is one of the key challenges we face going forward. If you need to touch base re how to push the envelope on this, please feel free to reach out whenever you get a window.

Best.
Scouse.

Mondsley · Post by **Mondsley** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:20 pm

[quote="scouseclaret"]So I'm afraid that overcoming corporate bullsh!t is one of the key challenges we face going forward. If you need to touch base re how to push the envelope on this, please feel free to reach out whenever you get a window.

Best.
Scouse.[/quote

Exactly!

normandeeley · Post by **normandeeley** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:29 pm

scouseclaret wrote:So I'm afraid that overcoming corporate bullsh!t is one of the key challenges we face going forward. If you need to touch base re how to push the envelope on this, please feel free to reach out whenever you get a window.

Best.
Scouse.

Totally - it's a no-brainer

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 4:34 pm

scouseclaret wrote:So I'm afraid that overcoming corporate bullsh!t is one of the key challenges we face going forward. If you need to touch base re how to push the envelope on this, please feel free to reach out whenever you get a window.

Best.
Scouse.

A blue sky thinking post if ever there was one!

Clarets4me · Post by **Clarets4me** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:02 pm

scouseclaret wrote:So I'm afraid that overcoming corporate bullsh!t is one of the key challenges we face going forward. If you need to touch base re how to push the envelope on this, please feel free to reach out whenever you get a window.

A friend's employer was taken over by an American firm a few years ago, and he was involved in video conferences with the Americans...

After a few weeks of hearing the American Corporate phrasing from their new Colleagues, they decided to invent a few " British " alternatives.

Hence, finding the answer to tricky problem became " like trying to find the corner of a Bowler Hat ", a decision to ignore a poorly thought through suggestion to alter working hours was something " we're letting though to the keeper without offering a stroke ", and an urgent order needed to be completed " quicker than the Duke of Edinburgh's temper " !!

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:23 pm

At my previous place of employment we commenced a project with a brain storming exercise. A well known if bollocksy expression as it is, but when someone pulled up the PM and suggested that phrase was offensive to people with epilepsy, all such future sessions were named thought showers!

I can't stand all the flowery nonsense.

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:13 pm

having an interface...

No, your going to speak to somebody !!!!!

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:25 pm

And how many people have a "melt down"!! Try that one on the outskirts of Chernobyl! That's when it REALLY meant something and not just dropping your phone in the toilet or missing out on a "group chat" (Whatever that is!)

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:34 pm

I often use the word 'oyn' when I'm at the match. I think modern day parlance would be 'chasing down an opponent' or 'making life difficult for them' but I just find the word 'oyn' or 'oyning to be perfectly appropriate.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:01 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:I often use the word 'oyn' when I'm at the match. I think modern day parlance would be 'chasing down an opponent' or 'making life difficult for them' but I just find the word 'oyn' or 'oyning to be perfectly appropriate.

I'm assuming it's used in some sort of context and you don't just randomly shout OYN.

I used to hear that regularly and repeatedly, especially when there was a goal kick. Why has he stopped doing that?

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 9:17 pm

If a player has been 'oyned' he's been given the runaround. If he's being 'oyned' he is having difficulty dealing with an opposition player. Easy.

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 9:52 am

Mondsley wrote:Starting sentences with the word "So". For example - So I went out last night and had a great time. Done more when speaking than when writing but drives me up the wall!!!

Me too!

Crept in from nowhere and quickly became mandatory for anybody considering themselves intelligent, particularly if being interviewed on TV.

3putt · Post by **3putt** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:04 am

I remember in the 60/70's the slang word "agate" - I was agate - he was agate. That was a strange one and seems to have completely disappeared. Not sure if it was just a locally used word?

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:30 am

I worked with people from all corners of the British Isles and beyond during my time and have been asked
many, many times to explain the meaning of "agate", and it's nigh on impossible. You need to have heard
it several times, in context, before you can begin to understand it.

The dropping of the letters "H" is still very common, as is the substitution of "us" for "me"

ie give it us 'ere

We all know of the Burnley silent "T" and silent "The" though, don't we ?

normandeeley · Post by **normandeeley** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:34 am

I'd forgotten 'agate' which I think is used as 'what's he agate?' - what's he doing? Another East lancashire or at least Nelsonian oddity is the use of the word pants - meaning trousers, a word I never used. It was always short pants or long pants. Our American cousins commonly use the word pants meaning trousers. For the rest of Britain pants has different meaning.

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:38 am

Pants, derived shortened version of pantaloons.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:07 pm

3putt wrote:I remember in the 60/70's the slang word "agate" - I was agate - he was agate. That was a strange one and seems to have completely disappeared. Not sure if it was just a locally used word?

Agate can relate to your or someone else's stance or general disposition when making a statement, it can also imply emphasis in the same manner as an exclamation mark when a phrase is written down.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:25 pm

Agate still widely used in East Lancashire at least.

Kids don't know what a ginnel is though.

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 2:33 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:Agate still widely used in East Lancashire at least.

Kids don't know what a ginnel is though.

In Manchester a ginnel is called an entry, sounds rude to me!

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:04 pm

When my grandma was getting her coal fire going she would say "it's agate" once the flames were well and truly shooting up. I always assumed that term was then transferred to mean people talking or going on and on about something as in "she was agate about this or he was agate about that".

cloughyclaret · Post by **cloughyclaret** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:57 pm

Mondsley wrote:Starting sentences with the word "So". For example - So I went out last night and had a great time. Done more when speaking than when writing but drives me up the wall!!!

My boss answers his emails with this too

"So, the cost of this order would be £blah blah blah" I keep telling him (moithering him) how unprofessional it is. Drives me barmy.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:03 pm

IanMcL wrote:Or when the new centre of attention is your eyebrows!

I preferred the days when they were made out of hair.

Bfc · Post by **Bfc** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 11:44 am

The word ginnel reminded me of time I had been in Burnley having a drink with my partner. A couple were walking in front of us and the woman turned round and said, " he says I've got bowed legs, have I". My partner straight out with it, said you wouldn't stop a pig in a ginnel.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 12:23 pm

Like infuriates me.

Fine if it's simply an "I like football" but when it's used mid sentence; "we went to the shops like" or perhaps the most innapropriate use being - "do you get what I mean, like"?