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Bradford Fire.

Post by tim_noone » Thu May 10, 2018 11:42 pm

It's thirty three years since those horrific scenes at valley parade.young Lads dads and grandads young girls and women perished.56.and over 250 injured lets remember and not forget them.
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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 10, 2018 11:46 pm

It's tomorrow isn't it, the anniversary?

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by tim_noone » Thu May 10, 2018 11:53 pm

Yes it is I try to leave a scarf and floral tribute on behalf of Burnley fans.and will do so tomorrow. So many youngsters died..very very sad.
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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by Lord Beamish » Fri May 11, 2018 12:44 am

Whenever I read the roll call of the dead of this tragedy, and it’s inherent tales of familial loss, it truly brings a lump to my throat. Death occurring in such numbers, in such a capricious fashion, and in the ordinary setting of a football stadium, is truly horrifying.

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri May 11, 2018 5:38 am

The day after I got married.
The tv coverage at the time is still horrific to watch after all these years. To capture something so sad, so clearly, I feel for everyone who witnessed it, never mind lost a loved one. The least we can do is keep them in our thoughts.
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Post by ashtonlongsider » Fri May 11, 2018 6:28 am

We will remember them. Thoughts and prayers to the 56 who lost their lives in this truly awful and harrowing tragedy.
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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by ClaretDiver » Fri May 11, 2018 6:49 am

I was at a Scout camp at Bowley, we were listening to it on the radio in our tent.....such a terrible tragedy :-(

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Post by Imploding Turtle » Fri May 11, 2018 8:35 am

Still one of the two or three most haunting videos I've ever seen.

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Post by Maja » Fri May 11, 2018 8:45 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Still one of the two or three most haunting videos I've ever seen.
discard the link please

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by tim_noone » Fri May 11, 2018 8:54 am

Lord Beamish wrote:Whenever I read the roll call of the dead of this tragedy, and it’s inherent tales of familial loss, it truly brings a lump to my throat. Death occurring in such numbers, in such a capricious fashion, and in the ordinary setting of a football stadium, is truly horrifying.
My grandparents are buried in Bingley and we chanced upon the young and old father and sons headstones which truly moves the emotions.RIP.

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by IanMcL » Fri May 11, 2018 9:01 am

The most horrific scenes ever on tv. I have an image of a man with his hair on fire, in shock.

Not long after we were at Molineux and a car caught fire behind their big old stand. Harmed to tell where it was coming from at the time. Could have been the stand.

Fire is terrible.

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 11, 2018 9:05 am

Lord Beamish wrote:Whenever I read the roll call of the dead of this tragedy, and it’s inherent tales of familial loss, it truly brings a lump to my throat. Death occurring in such numbers, in such a capricious fashion, and in the ordinary setting of a football stadium, is truly horrifying.
It's the Ormondroyd & Stockman names that get to me - both of them dad and two sons.

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by ClaretMoffitt » Fri May 11, 2018 9:08 am

tim_noone wrote:Yes it is I try to leave a scarf and floral tribute on behalf of Burnley fans.and will do so tomorrow. So many youngsters died..very very sad.

Thank you
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Post by LoveCurryPies » Fri May 11, 2018 9:09 am

ClaretDiver wrote:I was at a Scout camp at Bowley...
I used to camp there above Ilkley with the 10th Nelson Scouts back in the early 70's. It's the first time I have ever heard anyone mention the place.


re, the fire. Saw the whole thing on tv while living in London. Was truly shocking and extremely sad. Thank goodness the Club's have improved their fire safety.

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by Pad1951 » Fri May 11, 2018 9:15 am

I remember watching it unfold on tv, it was heartbreaking. RIP

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Post by tim_noone » Fri May 11, 2018 9:25 am

ClaretTony wrote:It's the Ormondroyd & Stockman names that get to me - both of them dad and two sons.
The ormonroyds are at rest in Bingley.

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by bfcmik » Fri May 11, 2018 11:05 am

Probably the most horrific scenes I have ever seen in football.

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by Longside4evr » Fri May 11, 2018 11:58 am

Never seen the death roll that's horrendous the Ormondroyd family looks like Father and his two twins
just horrific that memorial full families wiped out.
I remember the scenes at the time but never so what true devastation it left till you read that tragic death roll
Preston had same sort of stands stood on them old railway sleeper terracing with the build up of paper that collected underneath though the gaps and you could smoke on the grounds then 3000 people having a fag on.
It's a wonder, not a wonder a miracle it never happened anywhere else the safety of fans were shambolic when you look back on some of the old grounds The pens at Forest where another disaster waiting to happen.

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Post by Herts Clarets » Fri May 11, 2018 12:21 pm

I was there 3 weeks before with Burnley. I saw the footage of the disaster as part of a fire training session and at the time it had been taken off any websites etc. due to the harrowing nature. Some of the people in the session were not familiar with the disaster and were shocked by what they saw, most noticeably the speed in which the fire spread, as there was a stopwatch in the corner of the screen. Agree with the above, the most horrific scenes ever seen at football.

In memory of the 56 people who went to the match on a Saturday and never returned home.
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Post by ecc » Fri May 11, 2018 12:36 pm

"In memory of the 56 people who went to the match on a Saturday and never returned home." As you said, Herts.

Hell on Earth.

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Post by bfcjg » Fri May 11, 2018 12:56 pm

There were a lot of wooden stands in those days, PNE Bury to name but two. Horrific way to die and as ststed some of the most harrowing scenes ever witnessed.

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Post by Spike » Fri May 11, 2018 1:12 pm

Burnley were down south that day probably in the Midlands.we stopped off for beer in Rochdale and saw the horror on the telly box.

I remember being in that stand for the Ginger Pele League cup game

RIP

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Post by Herts Clarets » Fri May 11, 2018 1:13 pm

Spike wrote:Burnley were down south that day probably in the Midlands.we stopped off for beer in Rochdale and saw the horror on the telly box.

I remember being in that stand for the Ginger Pele League cup game

RIP
Walsall from memory and it was the last game we would play outside the 4th division for 7 years.

I had gone to watch Barbon Hillclimb with my Dad, nr Kirby Lonsdale. I remember as we drive through Barrowford seeing a car smash and it was a lad I worked with at Oddies who had stuck his car through a wall as you go into Barrowford from Higherford. Didn't know anything about the fire until we got home and put the news on.

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri May 11, 2018 1:36 pm

I go to the football with my two children (both adults now) and have done for many,many years. As CT mentioned earlier it is seeing the names of family groups who perished that day,having just probably set off as normal from home around lunch time for not just the game but the joy and excitement of a promotion party, that really gets to me. Horrific, harrowing scenes intensified by the speed at which the fire spread. RIP to those who died and condolences to all persons connected to Bradford City Football Club. A sad, sad day in the history of English football.

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Post by NottsClaret » Fri May 11, 2018 2:00 pm

There was a documentary on local Yorkshire TV a couple of years ago, the guy who does the weather reports here was at the game as a youngster. He starts trying to explain what happened when the smoke filled the stand and he can't do it, just breaks down. Obviously never come to terms with what he saw, and that's 30 years on. It's good that they're all remembered.

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Post by Lord Beamish » Fri May 11, 2018 2:35 pm

I’ve alway respected the quiet and dignified way that the Tragedy has been marked by the Club, the Fans(of both Bradford and Lincoln), and by Bradfordians in general. I don’t praise the Folk of Yorkshire cheaply, but their Dignity, Self Respect, and Stoicism is a great credit to them.
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Post by FCBurnley » Fri May 11, 2018 2:53 pm

I was closely connected to Bradford City and knew people who died in the fire. I also knew the Club Secretary Terry Newman very well. He survived but clearly his life was also shattered on that day. For every person who died or was injured it is easy to forget that their death/injury impacts dozens or even hundreds of family members and friends . A truly horrific day which should never be forgotten. It will stay in my memory for ever. RIP

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Post by tim_noone » Fri May 11, 2018 10:08 pm

Didn't realise gabby Logan was doing a documentary now on BT To Add there were some nice floral tributes there today.

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Post by groove » Fri May 11, 2018 10:48 pm

Interesting theory related to the cost of making the ground safe following promotion and the history of Stafford Heginbotham who's businesses were almost synonymous with fires and insurance claims. Martin Fletcher, a survivor who lost 3 family members is convinced of it. Stating nobody could be that unlucky in regards Heginbothams history with fires.

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Re: Bradford Fire.

Post by tiger76 » Fri May 11, 2018 11:31 pm

Amazing that just 18 days later the Heysel tragedy occured,a dark month for football. :cry:

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Post by tim_noone » Fri May 11, 2018 11:37 pm

tiger76 wrote:Amazing that just 18 days later the Heysel tragedy occured,a dark month for football. :cry:
Another one that goes unnoticed..like many others was watching live on TV ...the poor italian fans stood no chance.all caught on camera "horrific" viewing.

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