Burnley Wakes Fair On Fulledge, 1959

[Dazzler]

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At first glance, I assumed the photo was taken looking towards Brunshaw Road & Turf Moor with Thursfield Road running along the top & Mitella Street down the right-hand side. Then I noticed, in the top right corner a chimney-like structure and a huge building that looks like a factory, mill, or warehouse-type thing. I was brought up in Fulledge during the '60's & '70's and I have quite a bit of knowledge of the history of the area. The Athletics ground & the Speedway track spring to mind and also the original Fulledge rec used to extend towards Brunshaw Road but I have never heard of a huge Building such as that in the photo having once stood in the vicinity of Lyndhurst Road.

I have examined old maps that show the layout of Fulledge and I cannot find anything to indicate that the photo was taken elsewhere other than looking towards Turf Moor.

Please, can anyone make head or tail of the photograph?

[ClaretTony]

It's Thursfield Road down the right and the picture taken from Mitella Street end. The mill is roughly where Aldi is now on Tod Road.

[Selby Claret]

its definitely thursfield road top right looking west towards Todmorden Road - you can see the last couple of houses by the footbridge

The chimney looks to me to be the big one at the back of Aldi

[Turftalkers mentor]

Beat me to it was just typing the same answer

[Dazzler]

It's Thursfield Road down the right and the picture taken from Mitella Street end. The mill is roughly where Aldi is now on Tod Road.

I have considered every possible angle, even what you're saying, but as I wrote, I have checked old maps and if on the right is Thursfield Road what road is running along the top?

[Dazzler]

https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by ... =ESRIWorld

If you good folk care to check out the map at the link and try put yourself where the photo was taken then tell me where you think those houses along top stood.

[MeeActon1]

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If you good folk care to check out the map at the link and try put yourself where the photo was taken then tell me where you think those houses along top stood.

Rawlinson Street, demolished in the 60’s and now covered by James Hargreaves’s yard. Ran off Springfield Road to Parliament Street. Cottage in the Wood pub was on the corner of Springfield and Rawlinson.

[MeeActon1]

Cottage on the Wood, corner of Rawlinson Street, taken on Springfield Road looking towards Tod Road, Tarleton Street to right.

[Bfc]

That is the Handbridge Mill chimney. When Premier Gas bought the mill at the bottom of Parliament St, in the 70s, they had the height of the building reduced. It’s the building next to the undertakers and opposite of James Hargreaves plumbers merchant.

[ClaretTony]

I have considered every possible angle, even what you're saying, but as I wrote, I have checked old maps and if on the right is Thursfield Road what road is running along the top?

It's looking out towards Burnley Wood over the other side of Tod Road - 100% Thursfield Road on the right,

[Dazzler]

Rawlinson Street, demolished in the 60’s and now covered by James Hargreaves’s yard. Ran off Springfield Road to Parliament Street. Cottage in the Wood pub was on the corner of Springfield and Rawlinson.

I considered Rawlinson Street & Tarleton Street when scouring the old maps but my memory tells me there's always been a building in front blocking the view of them from the rec.

[Dazzler]

Anyway, I'm happy now, thanks guys.

[Dazzler]

It's looking out towards Burnley Wood over the other side of Tod Road - 100% Thursfield Road on the right,

I can see it now, It was the row of houses along the top of the pic that I wrongly assumed was Thursfield Road that threw me. I couldn't convince myself they weren't.

I knew if nobody else couldn't help you would be able to.

Thanks Tony

[Mala591]

The whole area of Turf Moor and Fulledge has a fascinating sporting history. It was/is a very flat area of town being the flood plane for the river Calder which made it perfect for a horse racing track, an athletics track (Athletic street), a cricket ground and ultimately a football ground/stadium. The attached video about this important area of Burnley is interesting and definitely worth a watch and is based on research from distinguished local historians.

https://youtu.be/ZDnAvx3Qavo?feature=shared

[Clive 1960]

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At first glance, I assumed the photo was taken looking towards Brunshaw Road & Turf Moor with Thursfield Road running along the top & Mitella Street down the right-hand side. Then I noticed, in the top right corner a chimney-like structure and a huge building that looks like a factory, mill, or warehouse-type thing. I was brought up in Fulledge during the '60's & '70's and I have quite a bit of knowledge of the history of the area. The Athletics ground & the Speedway track spring to mind and also the original Fulledge rec used to extend towards Brunshaw Road but I have never heard of a huge Building such as that in the photo having once stood in the vicinity of Lyndhurst Road.

I have examined old maps that show the layout of Fulledge and I cannot find anything to indicate that the photo was taken elsewhere other than looking towards Turf Moor.

Please, can anyone make head or tail of the photograph?

I was born on Admiral St and it was a mill where they had i think rag bone stuff as we messed around there growing up in the late 60s and then it was gas place and a funeral parlour..

[Bfc]

Clive 1960, the funeral parlour was not in Handbridge Mill, it’s the newer building next to it. The lighter coloured building to the right of the chimneys was the engineering company BEP, which was a large manufacturer in its time. It didn’t seem to progress with new technology and closed late 50/60s.

[Dazzler]

I was born on Admiral St and it was a mill where they had i think rag bone stuff as we messed around there growing up in the late 60s and then it was gas place and a funeral parlour..

Yes, yes, yes. I know all that....and I knew there had never been a chimney or a Mill on Lyndhurst Road, It was just that I couldn't work out what the road along the top of the pic was if it wasn't Thursfield Road, Even when Scouring the old maps nothing seemed to fit.

[ClaretTony]

Yes, yes, yes. I know all that....and I knew there had never been a chimney or a Mill on Lyndhurst Road, It was just that I couldn't work out what the road along the top of the pic was if it wasn't Thursfield Road, Even when Scouring the old maps nothing seemed to fit.

What gave it me were the houses on Thursfield Road which be the gable ends of Linby/Linden Street. They look much the same today.

[Gerry Hattrick]

What gave it me were the houses on Thursfield Road which be the gable ends of Linby/Linden Street. They look much the same today.

Another photo of the Fair giving a better perspective of Thursfield Rd, Linby/Linden/Admiral/Hinton Streets and the mills mentioned at the other side of Tod Rd.
As you say Tony, nothing much has changed in the whole of the Tod Rd, Lyndhurst Rd, Mitella St and Thursfield Rd area apart from most of the corner shops have become houses with very little difference in their appearance.

And just to give Thursfield Rd a bit of a Clarets ’association’, Reg Attwell of the great halfback line of the 40s & 50s lived in one of the three terraced houses at the bottom end of the row in the photo. Can’t really remember which one.

[SSCLARET]

I think it was the first house in the next block,I used to knock about with his son Kenny. A pretty good footballer himself.

[Bfc]

Wasn’t the Atwell house, the one next door to the bakers/bread shop, which was on the corner. Where we used to buy penny loaves, with Hovis letters on them. They were smaller than 3” long and 2” high. On Mittella St, opposite the Rec lived George Bray. Also on the same block lived the Mum of Ken Bates, the ex Oldham and Chelsea chairman. Those days Ken Bates lived on Brunshaw Rd, near FrenchClaret, who may remember more of that.

[exilecanada]

I wonder if you guys could help me out with a few memories I have about Fulledge Rec area. I attended Towneley Tech High School and have memories about going to a shop on Thursfield Rd for a roast beef sandwich. I also remember Ma’s shop on Mitella St for a single Woodbine, she’d also give you a match to light it with.

Am I remembering correctly, or am I going doolally?

[ClaretTony]

I wonder if you guys could help me out with a few memories I have about Fulledge Rec area. I attended Towneley Tech High School and have memories about going to a shop on Thursfield Rd for a roast beef sandwich. I also remember Ma’s shop on Mitella St for a single Woodbine, she’d also give you a match to light it with.

Am I remembering correctly, or am I going doolally?

The shop on Thursfield Road was the Penny Loaf shop on the corner of Holmsley Street.

[Gerry Hattrick]

I think it was the first house in the next block,I used to knock about with his son Kenny. A pretty good footballer himself.

Sorry SS, you are of course right. I’d confused Admiral St with Hinton St on the photo. Old age ya know!!
Anyway, I’ve managed to contact an old pal of mine from when we were kids growing up on Lyndhurst Rd and Mizpah St. When he got married he moved into the second house up from Hinton St and he confirms that Reg lived next door in the bottom one, No22.

[SSCLARET]

Hi gerryhatrick
I lived on admiral Street in the late sixties early to mid seventies at no 20. Where did you reside. ?

[FCBurnley]

I lived on Brockenhurst street for 47-57 then moved to Olympia St My grandparents lived on Athletic St until the fifties when they bought a fish and green grocers shop in Padiham near the bridge on Burnley rd (127)

[Bfc]

Hi exileclaret, how can you not remember Old Ma Halsteads shop on Mittella St, where the front door was literally at the corner of the front and side walls. Your correct about being able to buy a single fag and no doubt when I mention, she sold lots of different flavours of pop, poured into a glass, from large bottles on the shop counter.

[FCBurnley]

Used to buy a fag from Swires or Ma Halstead’s for 3p. 2p for the fag and 1p for matches. Was also Cains sweet shop at end of Brockenhurst. Ma Halstead’s had the wood yard behind it

[Clive 1960]

Hi gerryhatrick
I lived on admiral Street in the late sixties early to mid seventies at no 20. Where did you reside. ?

Hi SSCLARET, you must have lived opposite side to me as i lived at 31 Admiral St growing up...

[SSCLARET]

Hi SSCLARET, you must have lived opposite side to me as i lived at 31 Admiral St growing up...

I lived at 33 for a short time early sixties. Went to tod Rd school

[Gerry Hattrick]

Hi gerryhatrick
I lived on admiral Street in the late sixties early to mid seventies at no 20. Where did you reside. ?

Hi again SS,
I lived on Lyndhurst Rd, - the block between Mitella St and Lebanon St, - from shortly after being born in 1938 to getting married in 63 so I'd moved, allbeit not so far away when you were living on Admiral St.

Blimey, all this is bringing back memories of all sorts of things from growing up around there,
One quirky thing is how Fulledgers pronounced some of the local streets which didn't seem odd at the time.
Lebanon St was pronounced Le bann on St, Anne St was Annie St and Helena St was Hell, een a St. Wondering if, generations later, they still are?

[SSCLARET]

Hi again SS,
I lived on Lyndhurst Rd, - the block between Mitella St and Lebanon St, - from shortly after being born in 1938 to getting married in 63 so I'd moved, allbeit not so far away when you were living on Admiral St.

Blimey, all this is bringing back memories of all sorts of things from growing up around there,
One quirky thing is how Fulledgers pronounced some of the local streets which didn't seem odd at the time.
Lebanon St was pronounced Le bann on St, Anne St was Annie St and Helena St was Hell, een a St. Wondering if, generations later, they still are?

Hi again SS,
I lived on Lyndhurst Rd, - the block between Mitella St and Lebanon St, - from shortly after being born in 1938 to getting married in 63 so I'd moved, allbeit not so far away when you were living on Admiral St.

Blimey, all this is bringing back memories of all sorts of things from growing up around there,
One quirky thing is how Fulledgers pronounced some of the local streets which didn't seem odd at the time.
Lebanon St was pronounced Le bann on St, Anne St was Annie St and Helena St was Hell, een a St. Wondering if, generations later, they still are?

Gerryhattrick
This is getting spooky,as I also lived on lyndhurst road after I got married from 1978 until 1986 at no97. Right opposite Haven Street. I then went to 181 brunshaw road for 2 years until I moved to South shields in the North East where I still live.

[ClaretTony]

Not quite Lyndhurst Road for me but I was brought up on Celia Street. My mum was born on Lebanon Street and then the family moved to Mizpah Street (they just crossed the back street). My mum and dad lived in the house on Celia Street from 1949 until my mum passed away in 2004.

[SSCLARET]

Not quite Lyndhurst Road for me but I was brought up on Celia Street. My mum was born on Lebanon Street and then the family moved to Mizpah Street (they just crossed the back street). My mum and dad lived in the house on Celia Street from 1949 until my mum passed away in 2004.

Hi Tony
I remember seeing you round fulledgr back in the day but I think you are a little older than me but knew your michael.

[ClaretTony]

Hi Tony
I remember seeing you round fulledgr back in the day but I think you are a little older than me but knew your michael.

He’s five years younger than me - still sits next to me on the Turf

[Bfc]

Gerryhattrick, you’d have lived on the same block as painter and decorator family, the Abrahams and their son Geoff. Also on that block lived Bernard Pollard. Bernard, who I’ve not seen recently was a very quiet spoken gentleman. But a prominent heavyweight amateur boxer, who beat Richard Dunne, who later became a well known professional, who maybe won the British title.

[SSCLARET]

He’s five years younger than me - still sits next to me on the Turf

That's great Tony say hello from me next time you see him. Andy calverts the name. Bet he doesn't remember me

[ClaretTony]

That's great Tony say hello from me next time you see him. Andy calverts the name. Bet he doesn't remember me

He will do. He always seems to remember people really well.

[Clive 1960]

I lived at 33 for a short time early sixties. Went to tod Rd school

Hi , you didn't live on Bassnett St later on in life...

[SSCLARET]

Hi , you didn't live on Bassnett St later on in life...

No I never lived there. Admiral St, Hinton Street, brunshaw road and lyndhurst road then left for North East.

[CalamityClaret]

The whole area of Turf Moor and Fulledge has a fascinating sporting history. It was/is a very flat area of town being the flood plane for the river Calder which made it perfect for a horse racing track, an athletics track (Athletic street), a cricket ground and ultimately a football ground/stadium. The attached video about this important area of Burnley is interesting and definitely worth a watch and is based on research from distinguished local historians.

https://youtu.be/ZDnAvx3Qavo?feature=shared

Thanks for posting. I found it fascinating. Much appreciated

[Gerry Hattrick]

A bit of catching up:-

FCBurnley » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:56 am
“I lived on Brockenhurst street for 47-57 then moved to Olympia St My grandparents lived on Athletic St until the fifties when they bought a fish and green grocers shop in Padiham near the bridge on Burnley rd (127)”

With you livng on Brockenhurst St between 1947 / 57, we must know each other.
Which block did you live on?

ClaretTony » Wed Jan 22, 2025 3:46 pm
“Not quite Lyndhurst Road for me but I was brought up on Celia Street. My mum was born on Lebanon Street and then the family moved to Mizpah Street (they just crossed the back street). My mum and dad lived in the house on Celia Street from 1949 until my mum passed away in 2004”

As you know Tony, all the young lads who came to the Clarets in 40s and 50s were put in lodgings with local families, It wasn't your mum and dad that took in Jimmy Adamson at No 28 Mizpah St when he came in 1946 was it?

Bfc » Wed Jan 22, 2025 4:45 pm
“Gerryhattrick, you’d have lived on the same block as painter and decorator family, the Abrahams and their son Geoff. Also on that block lived Bernard Pollard. Bernard, who I’ve not seen recently was a very quiet spoken gentleman. But a prominent heavyweight amateur boxer, who beat Richard Dunne, who later became a well known professional, who maybe won the British title.”

I knew the Abrahams family very well.
I had many a pint with Jeff over the years and when he became housebound with MS, I regularly visited him at his home in Worsthorne. His dad Tom was a quite successful left arm fast bowler for Burnley CC.
And to bring this all back to the OP, when Jeffs sister Denise got married she moved to a house on the top block of , ...............Thursfield Rd!!

I can’t remember Bernard Pollard ever living on our block. He was in my year at Tod Rd school, and for as long as I can remember afterwards the Pollard family lived on the bottom (Chinese chippy) block on Lyndhurst Rd .

Bernard actually boxed professionally after he’d beaten Dunn, but only for a couple of years. (1967/68), As you say, Dunn did go on to win the British heavyweight title as well as the British and Commonwelth and European titles
Bernard’s father was also a boxer in the 1930s. My dad a Scouser and boxing fan used to talk about seing him fight in Liverpool.

[ClaretTony]

As you know Tony, all the young lads who came to the Clarets in 40s and 50s were put in lodgings with local families, It wasn't your mum and dad that took in Jimmy Adamson at No 28 Mizpah St when he came in 1946 was it?

It was my grandma & granddad who lived on Mizpah Street and my mum & dad married in 1947. Adamson lodged with Lily & Billy May who lived at 28 Mizpah. Lovely couple who eventually treated appallingly by Adamson.

I think they both got into their 90s too.