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England squad announcement

Post by tiger76 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:22 pm

So this is the 30-man England squad in full:

Goalkeepers: Dean Henderson, Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope.

Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Ben Chilwell, Conor Coady, Eric Dier, Joe Gomez, Michael Keane, Harry Maguire, Ainsley Maitland-Niles, Tyrone Mings, Bukayo Saka, Kieran Trippier, Kyle Walker.

Midfielders: Jordan Henderson, Mason Mount, Kalvin Phillips, Declan Rice, James Ward-Prowse, Harry Winks.

Forwards: Tammy Abraham, Harvey Barnes, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Jack Grealish, Danny Ings, Harry Kane, Marcus Rashford, Jadon Sancho, Raheem Sterling.

The headlines a recall for Maguire, and a deserved call up- for Calvert-Lewin. And no Foden or Greenwood, or Ross Barkley.

How the likes of Dier, Rice & Walker still make the cut is beyond me.

Good to see Harvey Barnes in the squad, plus Keane and Tripps, And obviously Pope.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by MACCA » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:26 pm

Squad basically picks itself.

Let's see what funky formation he plays this time, and who he plays where.

Either way I'm sure as per it'll be an entertaining watch

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Gordaleman » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:26 pm

No surprise that Tarky isn't included, having only played one game and that was last night.

Even Sarfgate can't judge him on that.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by SalisburyClaret » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:38 pm

Midfield is shocking

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by claretburns » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:38 pm

Looking at the midfields, I know the attacking wingers are classed as strikers, but the centre midfield area looks extremely weak.

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Re: England squad announcement

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:47 pm

Southgate teaching Greenwood & Foden another lesson.

Not enough sending them home for their **** up leave them out of another squad as well.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Wellsy1882 » Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:50 pm

Foden is better than all the midfielders named

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Gordaleman » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:30 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:47 pm
Southgate teaching Greenwood & Foden another lesson.

Not enough sending them home for their **** up leave them out of another squad as well.
Maguire's lesson didn't last long, did it? No doubt Greenwood and Foden will be back very soon.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by FactualFrank » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:35 pm

Grealish I see as more an attacking midfielder, so would prefer him in midfield with Henderson and maybe Phillips.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:39 pm

:D Looks like GS is planning to bypass midfield :D j
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Re: England squad announcement

Post by mkmel » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:41 pm

I agree that the midfield is absolutely dire

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by wilks_bfc » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:51 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:30 pm
Maguire's lesson didn't last long, did it? No doubt Greenwood and Foden will be back very soon.
Maguire "misdemeanour" wasn't whilst he was representing his country though

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Gordaleman » Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:54 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:51 pm
Maguire "misdemeanour" wasn't whilst he was representing his country though
That's like saying that Cummings misdemeanour in Barnard Castle wasn't while he was representing the government.

It was still very wrong and should have cost him his job.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by dsr » Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:39 pm

Maguire got miself into a stupid situation while on holiday and reacted the wrong way at several turns and made a proper mess of things for himself.

Foden and Greenwood deliberately did something that they knew was stupid and illegal while representing England and could very well have made a proper mess of things for the national side.

If you're an employer with two employees, one of whom has accidentally made a pillock of himself while on holiday and the other has deliberately made a pillock of himself while on the firm's business, and the latter was risking the firm hundreds of thousands of pounds, then you'd be stricter on the latter.
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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:05 am

Southgate out

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by atlantalad » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:29 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:05 am
Southgate out
Aye, and maintain social distancing by using the Northgate in.
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Re: England squad announcement

Post by ceborame » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:47 am

Re. England's midfield, cast our minds back to - Scholes - Lampard - Gerrard

What's happened ??

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by ClaretAndJew » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:09 am

ceborame wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:47 am
Re. England's midfield, cast our minds back to - Scholes - Lampard - Gerrard

What's happened ??
That wasn't good enough either.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by dermotdermot » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:05 am

I just can’t identify with these players. Who are they? Certainly far from world beaters.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:54 pm
That's like saying that Cummings misdemeanour in Barnard Castle wasn't while he was representing the government.

It was still very wrong and should have cost him his job.
As with most things you’re wrong:

He hasn’t been found guilty. The conviction was squashed. He’s been granted a new trial. United and England are backing him, which implies theres legal justification to so.

Innocent until proven guilty.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by BenWickes » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:08 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:54 pm
That's like saying that Cummings misdemeanour in Barnard Castle wasn't while he was representing the government.

It was still very wrong and should have cost him his job.
I love how you manage to shoehorn the government into every thread. You even managed to get the government into a topic about kitchen appliances yesterday.
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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:05 am

Maguire and Dier should be dropped on ability grounds ,as should Abraham none of them are international standard

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:15 am

About half of that squad wouldn’t be anywhere near being England internationals in previous teams.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Gordaleman » Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:48 am

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:03 am
As with most things you’re wrong:

He hasn’t been found guilty. The conviction was squashed. He’s been granted a new trial. United and England are backing him, which implies theres legal justification to so.

Innocent until proven guilty.
"As with most things you're wrong:"

Bit like you then. You've been saying for weeks that McNeil was leaving (Your Man U ex player mate.) and that you knew what was going on with ALK. If you still think those things are true, show us your evidence. Thought not.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:24 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:48 am
"As with most things you're wrong:"

Bit like you then. You've been saying for weeks that McNeil was leaving (Your Man U ex player mate.) and that you knew what was going on with ALK. If you still think those things are true, show us your evidence. Thought not.
Let’s pull this to pieces:

I said McNeil was subject to a bid, and that he’d been courted very closely by a premier league club. He has been, I did think he’d be off, and I said I would apologise the minute the window slams shut. As with many things in life things fall through for a whole number of reasons.

We’ve also asked questions about a number of players in recent weeks. As I said I would rather share a rumour that sit on one and shout ‘told you so’ if it came to fruition.

We’ve asked questions about:

Albrighton as part of the McNeill transfer

Jones as a loan and purchase

Worrall as a purchase

I feel fully vindicated about my foresight into a potential takeover. I have also been very clear that there’s multiple NDA’s in place. One of which has now been breached by an unknown source and has placed this into the public domain. This has caused complications. See my footballer analogy on the ALk thread for further speculation.

I think Ben, Tony, Chester and I etc. have been quite clear with our communication and the limits we each have individually.

It is difficult to share ‘news’ when the naysayers seek to belittle and tear down anything you share.
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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Gordaleman » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:36 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:24 pm
Let’s pull this to pieces:

I said McNeil was subject to a bid, and that he’d been courted very closely by a premier league club. He has been, I did think he’d be off, and I said I would apologise the minute the window slams shut. As with many things in life things fall through for a whole number of reasons.

We’ve also asked questions about a number of players in recent weeks. As I said I would rather share a rumour that sit on one and shout ‘told you so’ if it came to fruition.

We’ve asked questions about:

Albrighton as part of the McNeill transfer

Jones as a loan and purchase

Worrall as a purchase

I feel fully vindicated about my foresight into a potential takeover. I have also been very clear that there’s multiple NDA’s in place. One of which has now been breached by an unknown source and has placed this into the public domain. This has caused complications. See my footballer analogy on the ALk thread for further speculation.

I think Ben, Tony, Chester and I etc. have been quite clear with our communication and the limits we each have individually.

It is difficult to share ‘news’ when the naysayers seek to belittle and tear down anything you share.
As expected. No evidence, just heresay and speculation. I look forward to 11 pm Monday and hopefully, (Because I don't want McNeil going anywhere juet yet.) your promised apology.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:46 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:36 pm
As expected. No evidence, just heresay and speculation. I look forward to 11 pm Monday and hopefully, (Because I don't want McNeil going anywhere juet yet.) your promised apology.
Absolutely. Remember the quote?

"Dwight gone".

:roll:
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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:06 pm

It’ll come fellas....

I am not beyond an apology!

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:07 pm

Danieljwaterhouse wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:06 pm
It’ll come fellas....

I am not beyond an apology!
I wouldn’t waste your time, he’d start an argument in an empty room
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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Danieljwaterhouse » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:08 pm

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:36 pm
As expected. No evidence, just heresay and speculation. I look forward to 11 pm Monday and hopefully, (Because I don't want McNeil going anywhere juet yet.) your promised apology.
Holy god above, you’re not the sharpest.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by northernpowerhouse » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:22 pm

FactualFrank wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 3:35 pm
Grealish I see as more an attacking midfielder, so would prefer him in midfield with Henderson and maybe Phillips.
Southgate says he doesn't see him in that role which means it'll be Mount + two of Henderson, Rice, Winks, Ward-Prowse and Phillips. Pretty dire midfield imo.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Stu » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:42 pm

Can anybody explain what Southgate sees in Declan Rice because it baffles me how he gets in the squad

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:50 pm

Stu wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:42 pm
Can anybody explain what Southgate sees in Declan Rice because it baffles me how he gets in the squad
He's English and he's a bloke and I think it's starts and ends there.
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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:58 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 2:38 pm
Midfield is shocking
It's laughable.

Although, Barnes, Grealish and Sancho aren't forwards.

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:03 pm

BenWickes wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:08 am
I love how you manage to shoehorn the government into every thread. You even managed to get the government into a topic about kitchen appliances yesterday.
Thought you were on a wind up there and I've had to scroll through that thread to be sure :lol:

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by BenWickes » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:52 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:03 pm
Thought you were on a wind up there and I've had to scroll through that thread to be sure :lol:
Give him time. He'll blame the government for Brady starting :lol:
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Re: England squad announcement

Post by BenWickes » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:56 am

Gordaleman wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:36 pm
As expected. No evidence, just heresay and speculation. I look forward to 11 pm Monday and hopefully, (Because I don't want McNeil going anywhere juet yet.) your promised apology.
It's a bit much to accuse DJW of Heresy :o

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Re: England squad announcement

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:50 am

BenWickes wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:56 am
It's a bit much to accuse DJW of Heresy :o
Let's try 'Hearsay' then. :lol:
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