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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by taio » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:43 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:39 pm
Like checking the bleeding forecast and delaying the decision?

It's a dreadful, selfish decision that will cost a lot of people a lot of their hard-earned money and it will have wasted a lot of time for thousands of people.
Not sure because as i said we dont need to consider them - I suppose like what to do with fans for a couple of hours, staffing, policing and emergency services issues. I feel for people who have wasted time and money today - I'm lucky because I'm local. As I say delaying the kick off may have been a realistic option.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by burnley007 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:44 pm

I'm totally at a loss as to why they couldn't delay the decision.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:44 pm

gutted because now Tarks and Westy miss Wolves, the postponement has not done us any favours

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:44 pm

minnieclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:42 pm
Where did Spurs stay overnight that the ref waited for Conte to arrive? If there was any doubt ring him to get his arse down there.
Crow Wood, apparently.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by minnieclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:45 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:40 pm
If people don't get angry about this kind of crap then it will happen.
If the referee isn't made to think about what he's done and learn from this mistake he'll do the same thing again.
You know, I know, that the fans are the least of his worries. As always.
We’ll beat them next time around.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:45 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:13 pm
Have we not had the heating on? I cannot imagine it is because of pitch condition, must be approaches unsafe for fans attending.
Heating been on for three days. The problem was not being able to keep the pitch clear of snow.

I was down there from 12 on foodbank duty, no problem really outside.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by joey13 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:46 pm

I thought we had covers for the pitch ?

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:46 pm

The city game is potentially at risk of not finishing by the sounds of it.

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Post by Tillweplay » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:47 pm

Yet the local under 12 Girls team managed to play up the Road at the Prairie 3G pitch. Well done girls. Come on BFC should have easily got this game on.

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Post by Vino blanco » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:47 pm

Difficult to see the ball in City game on tv.

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Post by Tall Paul » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:47 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:46 pm
The city game is potentially at risk of not finishing by the sounds of it.
It's looking pretty bad. Depends how much snow they can clear at half time probably.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:47 pm

Re: Spurs arrival. This pic is the first team coach at 12:55.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by burnley007 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:48 pm

Why is the Man City game on?
I'm baffled

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Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:48 pm

It’s a Brexit issue - there aren’t enough drivers to deploy all the gritters and there was a worry that if the snow kept falling and the temperature dropped then road safety would be severely compromised when people were leaving at 4pm.

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Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:49 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:48 pm
Why is the Man City game on?
I'm baffled
It’s not snowing as heavily in manchester

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Post by burnley007 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:49 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:49 pm
It’s not snowing as heavily in manchester
Have you seen it??

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:49 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:48 pm
Why is the Man City game on?
I'm baffled
Snow wasn't an issue at kick off, but it is now.
Commentators are saying they can't see both goals, only one due to it snowing.
Players having to shield their eyes apparently

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Post by aberclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:50 pm

It wouldn't surprise me if the Man City game gets called off soon. Come on Clarets, people's safety comes first.
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Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:50 pm

Should have written

It’s not snowing as heavily in Manchester?

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:52 pm

Is it snowing in Burnley now? Beautiful here 🤦🏼

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Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:53 pm

aberclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:50 pm
It wouldn't surprise me if the Man City game gets called off soon. Come on Clarets, people's safety comes first.
We will need to keep an eye on Rowls if another game is called off.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:57 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:53 pm
We will need to keep an eye on Rowls if another game is called off.
It's just selfish and cowardly.

It's clearly the wrong decision.

Anybody in Burnley who has a window to look out of can see that.

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Post by martin_p » Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:59 pm

I’ve just got back to the Wirral having been about to park up when the game was called off. The roads were certainly starting to be challenging in and around Burnley and I was worrying if it got any worse I might not make it home. So looks like a sensible decision to me.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:01 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:59 pm
I’ve just got back to the Wirral having been about to park up when the game was called off. The roads were certainly starting to be challenging in and around Burnley and I was worrying if it got any worse I might not make it home. So looks like a sensible decision to me.
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Post by BLH_Claret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:01 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:44 pm
Crow Wood, apparently.
Tottenham stopped in Manchester last night and that is the reason they were delayed getting to the ground.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by bf2k » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:02 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:01 pm
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Rowls you’re getting boring now. It’s been called off, accept it and get over it.

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Post by taio » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:03 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:57 pm
It's just selfish and cowardly.

It's clearly the wrong decision.

Anybody in Burnley who has a window to look out of can see that.
You have raised fair points about option to delay and have done so with inconvenience and cost to supporters at the forefront of your mind. Not sure why you are being mocked it.

The bizarre comments on this thread are from those who have criticised the club and simply made stuff up like the the under soil heating has failed and Conte got the game called off.
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Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:04 pm

bf2k wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:02 pm
Rowls you’re getting boring now. It’s been called off, accept it and get over it.
This costs people time and money. The lack of empathy shown by some people is astounding.

The 2nd half at Man City has been delayed by all of 5 minutes to clear the snow off the pitch. That should have been the case at Burnley.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:05 pm

City pitch looks more than playable.

I hope Mike Oliver is out checking the roads and steps and stuff so that the fans are safe.
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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:06 pm

Things Rowls thinks he is an expert in

- Economic activity involving nation states
- Viruses and the spread off such viruses
- Vaccine side effects
- BLM
- why football matches are called off

Things Rowls doesn't have a scooby about

- Economic activity involving nation states
- Viruses and the spread off such viruses
- Vaccine side effects
- BLM
- why football matches are called off

If it helps, we got to the edges of Burnley before we heard it was off, popped into Blackburn services for a coffee, and are now at home, and we accept its just one of those things

Just chill out eh?

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:06 pm

I think in hindsight a delay to KO may have allowed us to get a game on.

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Post by Jimscho » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:07 pm

If it had been delayed for 1/2 hours as Rowls suggested,some fans could have been sat in freezing and wet conditions for 3/4 hours by the time the game finished.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:08 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:06 pm
I think in hindsight a delay to KO may have allowed us to get a game on.
Yeah, with hindsight

But you can do lots of things perfectly with hindsight

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Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:08 pm

It's clearly the wrong decision and anybody with a window in Burnley can see that.

Some people will take any stance simply to disagree with me because they hold different political opinions.

A lot of people will be needlessly out of pocket today and had their time wasted.

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Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:09 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:08 pm
Yeah, with hindsight

But you can do lots of things perfectly with hindsight
Or you could just look at the forecasts which all showed the shower dying off and stopping.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:09 pm

Imagine Rowls when he didn't get what he wanted for Christmas!
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Post by taio » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:09 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:08 pm
Yeah, with hindsight

But you can do lots of things perfectly with hindsight
Rowls was saying it without the benefit of hindsight to be fair.

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Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:11 pm

Jimscho wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:07 pm
If it had been delayed for 1/2 hours as Rowls suggested,some fans could have been sat in freezing and wet conditions for 3/4 hours by the time the game finished.
Not if they announce the delay at the time they announced the calling off. Only a handful of folk will be in the ground an hour before kick off.

A delay seemed the most sensible approach. Sadly common sense seems in short supply in these situations.

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Post by Lancasterclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:11 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:09 pm
Or you could just look at the forecasts which all showed the shower dying off and stopping.
Not like you to look at forecasts by experts Rowls?

Stop whinging about a decision that was taken bearing in mind the conditions at the time and without the benefit of hindsight

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:11 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:06 pm
I think in hindsight a delay to KO may have allowed us to get a game on.
The surrounds were ok and in any case most people were already there. One thing we knew is that the snow was due to stop around 3. It's blue sky now. outside so maybe a delay would have seen us able to play.

Not sure what time it was called off exactly but given it was less than an hour before kick off, the teams had been confirmed, with Collins and Cork in. The full teams are at

https://www.uptheclarets.com/snow-go-at-the-turf

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Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:12 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:09 pm
Rowls was saying it without the benefit of hindsight to be fair.
I'd checked out the weather forecast long in advance and thought nobody sensible could call the game off today without at least waiting.

The forecast was available well before the shower started.

Why didn't he just wait? Even if the forecast had been completely wrong we'd know he at least made the consideration.

It was the wrong decision.

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Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:12 pm

Remarkably, they've somehow managed to start the 2nd half at Man City.

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Post by taio » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:13 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:11 pm
Not like you to look at forecasts by experts Rowls?

Stop whinging about a decision that was taken bearing in mind the conditions at the time and without the benefit of hindsight
But he's raising reasonable points for debate without resorting to any insults.
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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:14 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:11 pm
The surrounds were ok and in any case most people were already there. One thing we knew is that the snow was due to stop around 3. It's blue sky now. outside so maybe a delay would have seen us able to play.

Not sure what time it was called off exactly but given it was less than an hour before kick off, the teams had been confirmed, with Collins and Cork in. The full teams are at

https://www.uptheclarets.com/snow-go-at-the-turf
It was a poor decision. That's irrefutable.

It would have been easy to communicate a delay and the game could (and should) have been played. Thousands of supporters are now out of pocket.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:15 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:11 pm
Not like you to look at forecasts by experts Rowls?

Stop whinging about a decision that was taken bearing in mind the conditions at the time and without the benefit of hindsight
How can anyone defend that decision. Why not delay the game about a couple of hours? Stupidity in the extreme
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Post by Vino blanco » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:15 pm

Shovel men have done a cracking job at City. Second half starts with 10 min delay, pitch totally clear of snow.
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Post by Jimscho » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:15 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:11 pm
Not if they announce the delay at the time they announced the calling off. Only a handful of folk will be in the ground an hour before kick off.

A delay seemed the most sensible approach. Sadly common sense seems in short supply in these situations.
So where do the fans who have already arrived in Burnley congregate.Do the Spurs fans just sit quietly on their coaches or does it become mayhem in Burnley town centre.

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Re: MATCH OFF.

Post by Rowls » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:15 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:13 pm
But he's raising reasonable points for debate without resorting to any insults.
I've grown used to it and it doesn't particularly bother me.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:16 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:14 pm

It would have been easy to communicate a delay
You would have thought it would be easy to communicate a postponement but we knew some time before any announcement, it had been on SSN.

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Post by Barlickclaret » Sun Nov 28, 2021 3:16 pm

Only needed somebody to slip and hurt themself, behind Jimmy mac or North stand, and then a claim goes in against the club, and there is people who would. So safety of fans was undoubtably the main reason.

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