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Re: Vydra

Post by AlargeClaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:52 pm

Good luck to him , a likeable player who never quite played into our systems . He could be a cracking signing for a champ club when fit and ultimately he’s a millionaire.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:54 pm

21 goals in the championship before he joined us suggests he knows where the back of the net is. The Premier League is a different animal (in response to colburnclaret)

I hope you are not as quick to judge Costelloe

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Re: Vydra

Post by hetheclaret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:09 pm

Prefeot wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:41 pm
I couldn’t agree with you less
Agree to disagree I guess - I think he is a really good player who we could have got a lot, lot more out of.
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Re: Vydra

Post by jos » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:10 pm

The lad obviously wants to earn as much as he thinks he’s capable of whilst he can, but I’m wondering if this decision on his part is a bit shortsighted, had he accepted the new deal (or perhaps been able to negotiate terms) then he would of no doubt scored plenty in my view, thereby placing him front and centre in the shop window, and probably giving him an opportunity to reap higher rewards with a premier outfit.
Anyhoo ….. good luck to him.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Jamesy » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:12 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:08 pm
A player that we grossly under used. His movement was on a different level and I think he would have flourished with the likes of Cullen and the new tactics.
Spot on there pal. I think he would have fitted in well in a footballing side in the Championship when fit. A player that Dyche not BFC grossly underused. Best wishes to Matej for his future career.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:15 pm

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:54 pm
21 goals in the championship before he joined us suggests he knows where the back of the net is. The Premier League is a different animal (in response to colburnclaret)

I hope you are not as quick to judge Costelloe
That makes no sense...... What the hell has Costello got to do with anything.

I haven't watched Vydra for one game, but 3 seasons. His movement is good, his speed creates problems, and his all round football was fine, BUT his finishing with us was very poor. Wikipedia means nothing. He was a good buy, I was pleased as punch at the time, but history shows that it didn't work out. Partly due to SDs style not suiting him, but also partly because when he did get the opportunities he often blew them. How you can make out he was good for us, because he scored 21 goals in the championship the year before, is a nonsense.

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Re: Vydra

Post by gawthorpe_view » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:21 pm

Nearly man, didn't work out for him in the Prem with us.
Good luck, wherever your boots take you.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:32 pm

I don't mind Vydra, doubt we will miss him though. Good luck to him finding a bumper contract coming off an ACL injury (if that's what it was?)

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Re: Vydra

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:41 pm

Wont' start another thread but article now on site at

https://www.uptheclarets.com/vydra-says-his-goodbyes
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Re: Vydra

Post by Papabendi » Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:55 pm

Vydra will no doubt divide any group of Burnley fans. The archetypal curates egg. I have no doubt his Prem career is over, but if we shall remember him by one thing it is that truly courageous performance at Watford. Still stunned he stayed on the pitch and had a meaningful impact.

All the best, Vyds.

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Re: Vydra

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:08 pm

Hope he gets a good club. Be interesting to see where he goes. Still only 30

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Re: Vydra

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:15 pm

Hope he gets a good club. Be interesting to see where he goes. Still only 30

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Re: Vydra

Post by Elizabeth » Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:33 pm

I always warmed to him even though he never really established himself as a regular in the team.

Pleased it's been resolved at this early stage of the season.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Clarets4me » Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:19 am

hetheclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:07 pm
Why shouldn't he maximise his earnings while he still can? The rest of the working population does.
From what we know, his contract will have expired at the end of June. Given this post, he's turned down our offer of a new contract, so I should hope we've stopped paying him.

This may sound rather brutal, but it sounds like he won't be anywhere near fit until December, when he'll have to prove his fitness " on trial " somewhere, without being able to do so as a contracted player in meaningful competitive football. Good luck to him ...

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Re: Vydra

Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:41 am

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:15 pm
Wikipedia means nothing.
Everything I quoted from Wikipedia is fact, or are you disputing that he was top championship scorer, voted player if the year X 3 and in 2 X teams of the championship etc. the season before he joined us?

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Re: Vydra

Post by UpTheClaretsFCBK » Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:47 am

He wasn't good enough in the PL and missed some big chance when he was given a place in the squad. He's coming off a bad injury, and might never be the same player again, plus he's out until January.

I don't think he's that big of a miss to us.
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Re: Vydra

Post by wbfc » Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:58 am

No miss at all. We all hoped because he had something different to the rest of the strikers that he could make a positive difference but that was never going to happen. However, is effort was all there and he had a good attitude. Like all ex-players hope he does well in the future other than when playing for Burnley.

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Re: Vydra

Post by KlyBfc » Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:55 am

Another in the camp of oh well, good luck and we move on. The club would have been correct to only offer him a short deal (say a 2 yr contract) on less money considering his injury, the risks in how he can come back (we’ve seen what’s happened to Brady & JBG after substantial injuries.. niggle after niggle) and that would understandable for him not to take it, as hell want the best for his family.

The facts are Vydra has never been better than championship striker. His record at other clubs show that (WBA, Watford). When it goes right for him and he clicks at champ level he is a danger but at the top level he needs too many chances and those aren’t coming. Great movement, great effort, thank you and good luck.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:20 am

Bang average, had more pace than any of our other strikers and was a tidy player but to suggest he’d score more than Wood is hilarious.
There’s a reason Kompany obviously wasn’t interested in keeping him

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Re: Vydra

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:31 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:20 am
Bang average, had more pace than any of our other strikers and was a tidy player but to suggest he’d score more than Wood is hilarious.
There’s a reason Kompany obviously wasn’t interested in keeping him
“Obviously” ?

The obviously is he’d done his ACL trying to keep us up and couldn’t guarantee as being as good again.

What a ******* idiotic statement. Hope you’re proud of yourself.

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Re: Vydra

Post by joey13 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:32 am

I never forget his strike at St Mary’s, what a goal and weekend.
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Re: Vydra

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:48 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:31 am
“Obviously” ?

The obviously is he’d done his ACL trying to keep us up and couldn’t guarantee as being as good again.

What a ******* idiotic statement. Hope you’re proud of yourself.
Charlie, you are one sensitive poster at the minute, you need to calm yourself down.
Actually laughing at your response ‘I hope you are proud of yourself’

I liked Vydra, and wish him well, I’ll not be crying over his departure though. I think it’s best for both parties to move on.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Socrates » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:49 am

11 goals in 91 appearances in all competitions.

Just didn’t work out this one.

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Re: Vydra

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:53 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:48 am
Charlie, you are one sensitive poster at the minute, you need to calm yourself down.
Actually laughing at your response ‘I hope you are proud of yourself’

I liked Vydra, and wish him well, I’ll not be crying over his departure though. I think it’s best for both parties to move on.
A) don’t give a **** if you’re laughing
B) you liked him even though you called him “bang average”

Weird

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Re: Vydra

Post by SouthLondonexile » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:55 am

If you are given only limited game time, then that puts immense expectation on you as a striker to deliver by scoring goals. To me this characterised his time with us.
I think it is really difficult to turn a game around in five minutes. I really think Vydra was badly underused by the previous regime, and therefore his game statistics are poor.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Top Claret » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:56 am

hetheclaret wrote:
Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:07 pm
Why shouldn't he maximise his earnings while he still can? The rest of the working population does.
Would normally agree but Vydra is nursing a CL

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Re: Vydra

Post by GaYauBurnley » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:57 am

I think most of the praise he got was based on his potential, but he never fully realised it with us. I think this is positive for us, overall. Wish him all the best.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:57 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:53 am
A) don’t give a **** if you’re laughing
B) you liked him even though you called him “bang average”

Weird
Yes that’s correct, he worked hard so has my respect, he wasn’t up to the job of scoring goals at the level we had him so in my opinion that makes him average at that level, nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: Vydra

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:08 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:57 am
Yes that’s correct, he worked hard so has my respect, he wasn’t up to the job of scoring goals at the level we had him so in my opinion that makes him average at that level, nothing more, nothing less.
Disappointing fact for you.

We’re no longer still at the level “we had him”.

We’re at the level where he scored 20+ goals for Derby.

But hey! Fortunately Vydra has taken that dilemma out of your hands by deciding for himself he’ll seek pastures new.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:36 am

CharlieinNewMexico wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:08 am
Disappointing fact for you.

We’re no longer still at the level “we had him”.

We’re at the level where he scored 20+ goals for Derby.

But hey! Fortunately Vydra has taken that dilemma out of your hands by deciding for himself he’ll seek pastures new.
Hadn’t realised, wish I’d not bought my season ticket & Wigan ticket now.
No dilemma for me, I’m not at all bothered he’s left as I’ve stated already.
I hope he has a good finish to his career, it will be interesting to see what level that’s at.

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Re: Vydra

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:41 am

Lot of talk about Vydra at this level

He got 21 goals 5 seasons ago in a season, he also got 5 goals in 33 and 3 goals in 31 in the previous 2.

His full record is 187 games and 65 goals. I am sure we will survive and be able to find someone capable of being a 1 in 3 goalscorer at this level

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Re: Vydra

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:46 am

Alanstevensonsgloves wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:41 am
Everything I quoted from Wikipedia is fact, or are you disputing that he was top championship scorer, voted player if the year X 3 and in 2 X teams of the championship etc. the season before he joined us?
All of that is irrelevant to how he played for Burnley, that's the only way we can judge him. You keep going on with this ridiculous argument that he was good for us, because he scored 21 goals for a different team in the Championship. You're living in cloud cuckoo land.
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Re: Vydra

Post by kenyon6923 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:56 am

with his injury he has to try and get a payday as who knows - could be a Bradley Dack siuation and he gets injured again and at his age that would be a disaster. Maybe the "grind" of the 3 matches a week in the championship particularly this season with the world cup is not the best move. Maybe somewhere more sedate like the USA might suit him now - if he signed for us the gloves would be off - no SD to blame, no tatics to blame, as we stand no strikers to think he's 2nd or 3rd choice - he would have to deliver - no excuses.

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Re: Vydra

Post by warksclaret » Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:59 am

For me, he will be lucky to get a decent contract in this country. I dont recall many clubs showing interest in him during the last 2-3 years, knowing he was not happy at Burnley. His record for us, and his latest injury will rule out a lot of English clubs, and cannot see the Championship offering him a better deal than ours.He could end up going abroad. I think in the early years SD did not give him enough games-he was definitely different to all our other strikers and could never be faulted for his energy and running

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Re: Vydra

Post by Middle-agedClaret » Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:53 pm

Two observations.
Firstly, I thought that Vydra always gave his best for us, and offered a threat every time he played. In my opinion, he didn’t play enough. I wish him success and good health in whatever his footballing future holds for him.
Secondly, is there ANY topic over which posters won’t fall out, and end up bickering?

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Re: Vydra

Post by hetheclaret » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:26 pm

Top Claret wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:56 am
Would normally agree but Vydra is nursing a CL
I don't follow?

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Re: Vydra

Post by Zlatan » Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:32 pm

Vydra could’ve been superb for us, but he often let himself down by throwing mini tantrums everytime something didn’t go his way which was quite often. I just wanted him to get refocused and go and win the ball back. No doubt he could score goals, but just thought his temperament was wrong.

That said, seems a nice bloke, and I wish him well in whatever he chooses to do

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Re: Vydra

Post by tiger76 » Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:37 pm

We shelled out £11m for Vydra, and he's another one walking out the door on a free, added to both Brady 13m, and Hendrick 10m, we simply have to start selling players when they're at their optimum value, as it's not sustainable to let contracts run down and receive no incoming fees.

Thankfully the club are now realising this, and we're selling for good money, which then should allow us to reinvest in developing potential talent to sell on down the line.

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Re: Vydra

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:36 am

No replies for 9hours on this thread probably speaks a lot for the majority of views on Vydra.

Assume we now have stopped paying any wages or do we have to cover it until he is fit again?

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Re: Vydra

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:46 am

tiger76 wrote:
Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:37 pm
We shelled out £11m for Vydra, and he's another one walking out the door on a free, added to both Brady 13m, and Hendrick 10m, we simply have to start selling players when they're at their optimum value, as it's not sustainable to let contracts run down and receive no incoming fees.

Thankfully the club are now realising this, and we're selling for good money, which then should allow us to reinvest in developing potential talent to sell on down the line.
Selling players at their ‘optimum value’ is easier said than done. When exactly is that? Are clubs interested? Would it be in our best interest to sell? The prime example used is Tarkowski but you could argue his stay helped prolong our stay in the PL. Hendrick for example - a big part of our team under Dyche, but who wanted him for the price we would have wanted? You say the club are now realising this, but it’s more borne out of necessity after relegation. It could also be argued we haven’t sold some of those players at their optimum value, certainly Pope and arguably Collins, McNeil and Cornet.

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Re: Vydra

Post by RammyClaret61 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 1:34 am

Burnleyareback2 wrote:
Sat Aug 06, 2022 12:36 am
No replies for 9hours on this thread probably speaks a lot for the majority of views on Vydra.

Assume we now have stopped paying any wages or do we have to cover it until he is fit again?
He’s out of contract, a free agent, nothing to do with Burnley anymore.

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Re: Vydra

Post by California Colner » Sat Aug 06, 2022 3:03 am

All the best Vydra
Dyche never gave you the game time
Far better player than what we got to see
Good luck

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