Gyokeres

[SalisburyClaret]

Scored more league goals this season than any of our players and in a much worse team so Id suggest you're talking out you're backside

Not my backside - have a look at the Coventry forum and have another crack at suggesting

[Devils_Advocate]

Yep cos football clubs fans forums after a defeat is a really good representation of what the fans really think. Have a look back at this forum after the Sheff Utd game and tell me what the Burnley fans thought of Muric, THB, Beyer and Maatsen.

As I said youre talking out your backside

[CrosspoolClarets]

Good strikers will want good wages though and unlike any other position in the team will be very difficult to get one that's gone under the radar.

Scoring goals tends to get you noticed and any player scoring at a good level will probably cost more than 15m in today's market.

A little too pessimistic for me.

Take Dodi Lukébakio. Full Belgian international. Can play wing or number 10. In the top 10 scorers in the Bundesliga with Berlin, valued at about £12m. Meant to be on about €50k per week. Not a number 9 striker but a good example of the calibre we may attract with Kompany as boss.

I take the point that a main striker tends to cost more, but there is value in these markets - and loads of talent. Look at Bayer, couldn’t even get in the team very often over there.

We can do better than Gyokeres, Kompany is the game changer, but I’d have him if £10m was the price. Not £15m+.

[Dano1bfc]

Tin hat firmly on … in this system … we have a better goal getter, he’s warming up for next year in Cheshire after a holiday in Turkey.
If Wout comes back, appreciate his departure was questionable at best , then I hope the fans back Vinny to stand by him. Everybody deserves a 2nd chance and we aren’t all born clarets believe it or not. For Wout it appears country came first.
However in the case that he comes back and bags a sackful . If that meant we didn’t need a forward and could use the money to turn some of these loans permanent … it would be a thank you and silver lining to the whole situation from me.
Just a thought …

[TheFamilyCat]

I thought Beyer had him pretty much under control all afternoon; he never got a shot away
That he didn’t even manage a goalward poke from the 3 or 4 opportunities in his meander across the box after the back pass suggests he has a way to go before he will be comfortable in the Prem. Plus everything Coventry did going forward was about getting the ball to him, which he won’t get in the Prem.
His petulance with ref and teammates in the second half was reminiscent of Bendtner.
It’s a no from me.

Was there a possible penalty in that incident? From the top of the JMU (as far away from it as it is possible to be admittedly) it looked like Muric caught Gyokeres and he stumbled but stayed up before fluffing the chance.

[Nonayforever]

Gyokeres is obviously a good player and would definitely improve our team, but is he worth north of £12m ?
In my opinion no.
I think VK could get better value elsewhere.
If A Pace wants to splash in excess of £12m for the player then that's fine but at this present time a gamble.

[BigF]

Was there a possible penalty in that incident? From the top of the JMU (as far away from it as it is possible to be admittedly) it looked like Muric caught Gyokeres and he stumbled but stayed up before fluffing the chance.

He wasn't even close to being touched by anyone. He just couldn't get himself into a shooting position.

[SalisburyClaret]

Yep cos football clubs fans forums after a defeat is a really good representation of what the fans really think. Have a look back at this forum after the Sheff Utd game and tell me what the Burnley fans thought of Muric, THB, Beyer and Maatsen.

As I said youre talking out your backside

Well you’re entitled to your opinion - obviously you’re not prepared to base it on anything, but nothing new there

[TheFamilyCat]

He wasn't even close to being touched by anyone. He just couldn't get himself into a shooting position.

Fair enough, just saw the stumble from distance. Guess he tripped himself up a bit.

[BigF]

Fair enough, just saw the stumble from distance. Guess he tripped himself up a bit.

Not a problem TheFamilyCat, if you get chance to see it on television it is quite clear.

[BigGaz]

He played well, and he’s a decent player no doubt but to me he just smacks of yet another player like Andre Gray, Neil Maupay, Glenn Murray and a host of other strikers that look great at champ level but cannot output at anywhere near the same rate in the PL.

That’s fair enough and no slight on them, that’s the level of players we have to buy but what we know now is that there is definitely much more value to be had for the price they are asking.

Is Gyokeres going to be noticeably more value than Obafemi for the extra 10/12/15 million they want for him? Not on your life is he.

[Big Vinny K]

Coventry fans would be happy to offload him - decent player but doesn’t take his chances

Seriously ?
He’s by some distance their best player and it looked to me like they build their whole team and play around him.
Personally thought he was the best centre forward I have seen in the championship this season and that he also has the physique and strength to play in the Premier League.

He should have scored yesterday and probably should have taken his shot earlier than he did when he was through but his finishing in the rest of the season has looked excellent.

[taio]

I'd have him here in a flash if he was available. Their best player yesterday. Definitely something about him.

[SalisburyClaret]

Seriously ?
He’s by some distance their best player and it looked to me like they build their whole team and play around him.
Personally thought he was the best centre forward I have seen in the championship this season and that he also has the physique and strength to play in the Premier League.

He should have scored yesterday and probably should have taken his shot earlier than he did when he was through but his finishing in the rest of the season has looked excellent.

I was surprised by their opinion of him as he looks strong and direct- but he doesn’t seem to be highly thought of as a finisher. It seems Godden is the one they rate. Cashing him in for the money they want would help them strengthen their squad. Looks good enough to me but not for the money they’re wanting

[RVclaret]

Aside from Gyokeres, I thought Gustavo Hamer in centre mid was excellent yesterday for the most part. Some too long distance passing and all their good player went through him. Out of contract after next season so I wonder if VK might take a look in the summer (he’s specifically mentioned him in a couple of press conferences).

[tiger76]

He played well, and he’s a decent player no doubt but to me he just smacks of yet another player like Andre Gray, Neil Maupay, Glenn Murray and a host of other strikers that look great at champ level but cannot output at anywhere near the same rate in the PL.

That’s fair enough and no slight on them, that’s the level of players we have to buy but what we know now is that there is definitely much more value to be had for the price they are asking.

Is Gyokeres going to be noticeably more value than Obafemi for the extra 10/12/15 million they want for him? Not on your life is he.

He did play well, however he also fluffed his big moment when it came, and if we splash £12-15m on Gyokeres then that means we'll have less to spend on other areas, CM for one where we will need at least one upgrade as Brownhill & Cork still don't convince me at Prem standard, and Cullen is untested at that level.

If as reported we can snap Obafemi up cheaply then I'd rather we brought him in, and with Kompany's track record of scouting bargains in Europe I'm sure he'll produce a few more rabbits out of hats yet.

[taio]

He did play well, however he also fluffed his big moment when it came, and if we splash £12-15m on Gyokeres then that means we'll have less to spend on other areas, CM for one where we will need at least one upgrade as Brownhill & Cork still don't convince me at Prem standard, and Cullen is untested at that level.

If as reported we can snap Obafemi up cheaply then I'd rather we brought him in, and with Kompany's track record of scouting bargains in Europe I'm sure he'll produce a few more rabbits out of hats yet.

We will need more than one forward. If we go up and the right forward is available for £12m-£15m we should spend it. Goals are the hardest thing to come by in the PL.

[burnley007]

Would love to see us go all in for Gyokeres. He looks absolute quality. Terrifying for defenders

[Claretitus]

Hope I’m wrong, but IMO Obafemi is not the answer. He just looks a big immobile lump, he was awful when we played Swansea at the Turf, reminds me of Akinfenwa at Wycombe. They’re having our pants down at £3m.

[RVclaret]

Hope I’m wrong, but IMO Obafemi is not the answer. He just looks a big immobile lump, he was awful when we played Swansea at the Turf, reminds me of Akinfenwa at Wycombe. They’re having our pants down at £3m.

Nathan Tella looked awful at Sheffield United.

It’s probably best not to judge a player off one game.

As for a big immobile lump, he’s quite short and quite quick.

[RicardoMontalban]

Hope I’m wrong, but IMO Obafemi is not the answer. He just looks a big immobile lump, he was awful when we played Swansea at the Turf, reminds me of Akinfenwa at Wycombe. They’re having our pants down at £3m.

Reckon you’re thinking of a different player if big immobile lump is what springs to mind, he definitely isn’t that. Yeah, he had a stinker at the Turf, but it’s not like some of our players haven’t chucked in the odd one either.

Watched him in the South Wales derby earlier this season and he looked dangerous and I think the goal he scored is a good indication of what VK thinks he can bring. Rapid run in behind the back line and finished well.

[claretandy]

Hope I’m wrong, but IMO Obafemi is not the answer. He just looks a big immobile lump, he was awful when we played Swansea at the Turf, reminds me of Akinfenwa at Wycombe. They’re having our pants down at £3m.

Yep, you are wrong.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Hope I’m wrong, but IMO Obafemi is not the answer. He just looks a big immobile lump, he was awful when we played Swansea at the Turf, reminds me of Akinfenwa at Wycombe. They’re having our pants down at £3m.

He’s quite small isn’t he???????

[IanMcL]

He wasn't even close to being touched by anyone. He just couldn't get himself into a shooting position.

Looked like he didn't want to!

[HiThere]

Hope I’m wrong, but IMO Obafemi is not the answer. He just looks a big immobile lump, he was awful when we played Swansea at the Turf, reminds me of Akinfenwa at Wycombe. They’re having our pants down at £3m.

One poster said that Benson would be an awful acquisition and was rubbish.

[bpgburn]

Looked like he didn't want to!

Do you really think he is that unprofessional to deliberately not score in case it jeopardised a move to Burnley? Really? You must have a very low opinion of him.

[Claretitus]

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Hope I’m wrong, but IMO Obafemi is not the answer. He just looks a big immobile lump, he was awful when we played Swansea at the Turf, reminds me of Akinfenwa at Wycombe. They’re having our pants down at £3m.

Yep, you are wrong.
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As I stated “ I hope I’m wrong “.AND “ IMO.”How do all your replies prove you are all correct. You maybe. Time will tell IF we sign him. I don’t rate him, and I’ve seen him more than once. Not for me, but we will see.

[HiThere]

Do you really think he is that unprofessional to deliberately not score in case it jeopardised a move to Burnley? Really? You must have a very low opinion of him.

I think he was kidding.

[SouthLondonexile]

I do hope we sign him.

[HiThere]

I do hope we sign him.

We're closing in on Obafemi and there's no way we'd sign both.

[bpgburn]

I think he was kidding.

You'd think so eh?

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:47 pm

It looked to me like he didn't want to score against us!

Perhaps he knows something we don't

[taio]

We're closing in on Obafemi and there's no way we'd sign both.

Even if we don't sign ObafemiI I can't imagine we'd be spending the sort of fee it would take to get Gyokeres in January while we're in the Championship.

[IanMcL]

Do you really think he is that unprofessional to deliberately not score in case it jeopardised a move to Burnley? Really? You must have a very low opinion of him.

Probably not....but he seemed to have an empty net at one point, before he rounded a couple more and got blocked out.

[boatshed bill]

Probably not....but he seemed to have an empty net at one point, before he rounded a couple more and got blocked out.

All credit there to Aro Muric who made the shooting chance as difficult as possible allowing Brownhill's outstanding interception.

[IanMcL]

All credit there to Aro Muric who made the shooting chance as difficult as possible allowing Brownhill's outstanding interception.

There was me thinking his retreat, from the back pass, caused it in the first place!

[boatshed bill]

There was me thinking his retreat, from the back pass, caused it in the first place!

Well you obviously would.

[IanMcL]

Well you obviously would.

Watched it.

Still gave him a good score, as he did other stuff well.

[boatshed bill]

Watched it.

Still gave him a good score, as he did other stuff well.

Beyer sold him well short, and admitted it.

[HiThere]

Watched the replay of the game and I don't think Gyokeres looked great. Not Premier League material and looked very lacklustre.

[KRBFC]

Agree I think his average finishing ability would come unstuck in the Prem with better keepers. 10-15m I’d be keen but nothing over that. Surely better options.

Because he has never been a striker from what I know, came from Brighton as a left winger, now turned into a centre forward but you can see the winger in his game.

[KRBFC]

A little too pessimistic for me.

Take Dodi Lukébakio. Full Belgian international. Can play wing or number 10. In the top 10 scorers in the Bundesliga with Berlin, valued at about £12m. Meant to be on about €50k per week. Not a number 9 striker but a good example of the calibre we may attract with Kompany as boss.

I take the point that a main striker tends to cost more, but there is value in these markets - and loads of talent. Look at Bayer, couldn’t even get in the team very often over there.

We can do better than Gyokeres, Kompany is the game changer, but I’d have him if £10m was the price. Not £15m+.

Hertha bought him from Watford for just under £20m.

[Rileybobs]

Beyer sold him well short, and admitted it.

Muric actually did well to realise that the back pass was short and decided to retreat, otherwise Gyokeres would have gone round him and slotted it into an empty net.

[Wokingclaret]

Muric actually did well to realise that the back pass was short and decided to retreat, otherwise Gyokeres would have gone round him and slotted it into an empty net.

Muric, especially the all fours bit

[CrosspoolClarets]

Hertha bought him from Watford for just under £20m.

Yes, after a storming loan the season before which led to Berlin overpaying a bit, but my point was that he would cost about the same as Gyokeres, and is the calibre I think we could attract (or more to the point, Kompany could attract). I’m not saying we could get him or want him specifically, but if we threw the net out for players of that calibre, particularly Belgians, I bet we would get one or two, and they would be better than Gyokeres (who does have potential and may prove me wrong on this in years to come).

The prices Championship clubs are demanding is OTT. I’m actually amazed we may be getting Obafemi for only £3m. Maybe the big price buys have to wait for the summer.

[elwaclaret]

Muric actually did well to realise that the back pass was short and decided to retreat, otherwise Gyokeres would have gone round him and slotted it into an empty net.

Nice to be able to agree with you. makes me nervous as hell at times but I quite enjoy it now, I’m getting used to having my heart in my mouth and my head in danger of exploding… but I was an old fashioned CH.

[HunterST_BFC]

Assuming Wout Weg will go ? - Gyokeres in the summer would be a near zero cost deal.

Personally (assuming we go up) - I'd be happy with either.

I'd be annoyed if the money again vanishes and we don't invest. Loans are patching up our squad right now. (very well)

...and our sales are paying for the owner loans...

[Quicknick]

I'd rather have Gyokeres than Weghorst.

[Notsosuperstevedavis]

Cov seem to be broke and in dire need of reinforcements, having a peruse of their forum, they are crying out for a squad. They are so short, I read that they had 2x keepers on the bench.

It would be an ideal time to sell VG, in order to get a few bodies in.

But thats mostly wishful thinking

[Clive 1960]

I think we will sign either of the forwards we are linked with if we are serious about going up and stopping there and nothing would surprise me if we get both to replace the ones that we have and if we get a decent fee for Weghorst if we sell him.

[Vegas Claret]

when you look at the Bosnian lad we are linked with for 3-5 million he looks serious quality, no way we pay silly money to Coventry for Gyokeres when there will be way better value out there. We are trying to do a Brighton/Brentford and they (in the Championship) didn't spend silly money from memory and Brighton have made so incredible signings for fees that even Wigan could afford - our scouting network is seemingly unrecognizable to what it was a year ago, they've already brought in some gems.