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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2024 11:04 am

Taylor & Rodriguez - offers made
Brownhill & Peacock-Farrell - extensions activated
Tresor & Esteve - now permanent players
Bruun Larsen & Assignon - talks continue
Only Cork & JBG released

U21s
Ackeme Francis-Burrell, Kian Le Fondre, Marcel Lewis, Michael O’Neill, Michael Parker, Renaldo Torraj, Jack Turner and Harry Moss all released.

Sonny Pickup, Dylan Sime, Ollie Sweeney, Lucas Wane, Callum West, Jack Rogers, Rohan Vaughan and Jack Bates all released.

Options have been exercised on Alex Healy-Byrne, Will Hugill and Ryan Tioffo.
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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2024 11:07 am

I'd assumed we we'd release Peacock-Farrell.

No surprises in the U21 & U18 releases - most of those players had disappeared some time ago. Three of the U21s only arrived in Jan but they always looked no more than numbers to make up for those out on loan.

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Post by BurnleyFC » Tue May 21, 2024 11:08 am

I thought Le Fondre was fairly highly rated with the under 21s?
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Post by jedi_master » Tue May 21, 2024 11:08 am

"The club is in conversations with the parent clubs and the representatives of Lorenz Assignon and Jacob Bruun Larsen to activate permanent moves."

Surely that is more in hope than expectation - that would be the best part of another £15-20m you'd think combined for the pair of them (perhaps I am mistaken)?

Second thing that stands out is how ridiculous that list is of players returning to us from loan. It's Chelsea levels. We need to absolutely slash our squad to bits as there is so much dead weight.
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Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Tue May 21, 2024 11:08 am

BPF is a strange one. Almost forgot we had him. Second keeper for the Championship and one of Trafford or Muric to leave?

Think we'll struggle to get Assignon and JBL over the line whilst the manager uncertainty is ongoing.

Weghorst will obviously be off.

Would love to see Charlie Taylor for another season.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2024 11:11 am

BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:08 am
I thought Le Fondre was fairly highly rated with the under 21s?
He was out injured for a long time and doesn't seem to have had much game time since coming back. Have to admit, I've hardly seen him.
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Post by 1989_claret » Tue May 21, 2024 11:11 am

jedi_master wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:08 am
Second thing that stands out is how ridiculous that list is of players returning to us from loan. It's Chelsea levels. We need to absolutely slash our squad to bits as there is so much dead weight.
Completely agree with this.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2024 11:12 am

jedi_master wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:08 am

Second thing that stands out is how ridiculous that list is of players returning to us from loan. It's Chelsea levels. We need to absolutely slash our squad to bits as there is so much dead weight.
Which is another reason BPF has surprised me unless we think we can get a good fee for him.

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Post by GetIntoEm » Tue May 21, 2024 11:16 am

any surprises on the U21 front? i dont follow them close enough, but there seems to be a lot released there

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Post by Funkydrummer » Tue May 21, 2024 11:16 am

Just in case the other two depart I would have thought !!!!!

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2024 11:18 am

GetIntoEm wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:16 am
any surprises on the U21 front? i dont follow them close enough, but there seems to be a lot released there
No surprises for me - the surprises for me are Jack Rogers and Callum West from the U18s although we knew they'd gone some time ago.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue May 21, 2024 11:24 am

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:08 am
BPF is a strange one. Almost forgot we had him. Second keeper for the Championship and one of Trafford or Muric to leave?

Think we'll struggle to get Assignon and JBL over the line whilst the manager uncertainty is ongoing.

Weghorst will obviously be off.

Would love to see Charlie Taylor for another season.
BPF staying might be a sign that either Muric or Trafford is expected to leave.
We haven't a clue who will be sniffing around our squad.

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Post by GetIntoEm » Tue May 21, 2024 11:25 am

BPF is a perfect back up keeper for me, always done fairly well when needed. well experienced

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 21, 2024 11:26 am

BPF better with his feet than Trafford but isn’t as good of a shot stopper

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Post by jedi_master » Tue May 21, 2024 11:26 am

Muric/Trafford, BPF, Vigoroux

Probably just means that we don't need to bring a keeper in this summer as we're definitely selling one of our 'main' keepers.

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Post by matttheclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 11:29 am

jedi_master wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:26 am
Muric/Trafford, BPF, Vigoroux

Probably just means that we don't need to bring a keeper in this summer as we're definitely selling one of our 'main' keepers.
I suspect we might sell both Muric and Trafford and bring in a new first choice keeper. We could get decent money for both and neither exactly inspire that much confidence

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2024 11:36 am

I think the squad list is up to date - if you spot any errors please let me know

https://www.uptheclarets.com/players/squad-list

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue May 21, 2024 11:38 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:18 am
No surprises for me - the surprises for me are Jack Rogers and Callum West from the U18s although we knew they'd gone some time ago.
I was under the impression Marcel Lewis was a promising player?

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Post by KefkaClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 11:42 am

Leans towards Kompany staying if Assignon is being negotiated with.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 21, 2024 11:45 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:38 am
I was under the impression Marcel Lewis was a promising player?
When at Chelsea he went on loan at accy Stanley and a lot of their fans said he was absolutely bobbins

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Post by burnleytom » Tue May 21, 2024 11:46 am

Lewis didn’t get a game at Dundee for half a season and ended up in the National League North. Bit strange given he got off the bench against Crawley last year though.

Renaldo Torraj Is the surprise for me. He always seems to play for the U21’s. Whilst the competition is a bit of a joke, he’s also been selected for JJ’s team in the US this summer 🤣

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue May 21, 2024 11:49 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:26 am
BPF better with his feet than Trafford but isn’t as good of a shot stopper
I actually think BPF is a decent shot stopper. his problem is concentration. he can be superb and still lose you a game with a stupid mistake, as we've got used to that the past 9 months he'll be fine for the bench unless he'd rather move on.

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Post by burnleytom » Tue May 21, 2024 11:59 am

Dara Costelloe is an interesting one. Mentions he’s returning from loan, but I thought his contract was up? No mention in the option extended section, nor released section.

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2024 12:01 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:38 am
I was under the impression Marcel Lewis was a promising player?
123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:45 am
When at Chelsea he went on loan at accy Stanley and a lot of their fans said he was absolutely bobbins
I might not have used the word bobbins but to be honest he's never impressed me. He spent the second half of this season on loan at Curzon Ashton.

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Post by aggi » Tue May 21, 2024 12:10 pm

burnleytom wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:59 am
Dara Costelloe is an interesting one. Mentions he’s returning from loan, but I thought his contract was up? No mention in the option extended section, nor released section.
Being under 24 I guess we'd be due a development fee or whatever it's called if he went elsewhere at the moment. Can't really remember how it works but I assume we wouldn't get that if we released him.

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Post by warksclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 12:13 pm

If Trafford is in the England squad its good for the club, as it keeps the focus of his potential, and probably does no harm to his re-sale value

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Post by fidelcastro » Tue May 21, 2024 12:27 pm

You mean Fofana isn't coming? 😳

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Post by jlup1980 » Tue May 21, 2024 12:54 pm

BPF is worth another year. At 27, he's coming into his prime years and has 44 International caps for NI. The very least you'd expect is to sell him for a fee. Brownhill's extension is a no brainer. He might not be PL standard but you know what you're getting the Championship. If we have Berge, Cullen and Brownhill in September we'll have the strongest CM options of anyone in the division by a long way.

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Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue May 21, 2024 12:54 pm

Have any of the players returning from loans put themselves in the shop window? Can't say I've been following them but I'd expect some posts on here if any were doing particularly well.

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Post by Owdsyker » Tue May 21, 2024 1:04 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 12:13 pm
If Trafford is in the England squad its good for the club, as it keeps the focus of his potential, and probably does no harm to his re-sale value
But not if it triggers a few million quid in add ons

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2024 1:09 pm

burnleytom wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:59 am
Dara Costelloe is an interesting one. Mentions he’s returning from loan, but I thought his contract was up? No mention in the option extended section, nor released section.
Good spot. No mention of what the u18s out of scholarship have been offered either.

We must have offered Dara something.

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Post by Rowls » Tue May 21, 2024 2:21 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:12 am
Which is another reason BPF has surprised me unless we think we can get a good fee for him.
Surely any fee is better than no fee for him?

It would only have to be a fee larger than his wages for it to make financial sense.

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Post by Rowls » Tue May 21, 2024 2:22 pm

There's a hell of a lot of work needed to make our squad manageable.

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Post by clarets1978 » Tue May 21, 2024 2:24 pm

burnleytom wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:46 am
Lewis didn’t get a game at Dundee for half a season and ended up in the National League North. Bit strange given he got off the bench against Crawley last year though.

Renaldo Torraj Is the surprise for me. He always seems to play for the U21’s. Whilst the competition is a bit of a joke, he’s also been selected for JJ’s team in the US this summer 🤣
Do we know what JJ's full squad is? Curious to see who we are taking out there

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Post by burnleytom » Tue May 21, 2024 3:09 pm

JJ Watt, Marvin Bartley, Matt Briggs, Ethen Vaughan, Connor King, Vizeh, Chris Eagles, Marcel Lewis, Marvin Sordell, Renaldo Torraj and Terratep Winothai. Manager: Paul Jenkins

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 3:57 pm

Who is the keeper from those?

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Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 21, 2024 4:05 pm

Rowls wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 2:22 pm
There's a hell of a lot of work needed to make our squad manageable.
It’s huge in size isn’t it with all the loan players back? Goodness knows what we are going to do.

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Post by jojomk1 » Tue May 21, 2024 4:11 pm

34 players signed up
Offers made to 2 more
And in talks with 2 more

And we still want/need additional signings

1 "natural" RB at present in Roberts
0 "natural" LB at present unless Taylor signs up
4 experienced CM
1 central striker

Well done VK for assembling such a well balanced squad

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Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Tue May 21, 2024 4:25 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 3:57 pm
Who is the keeper from those?
Connor King I presume. Academy GK coach.
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Post by evensteadiereddie » Tue May 21, 2024 5:32 pm

Michelle Keegan, she's a keeper.

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Post by NewClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 5:54 pm

Tony - do EFL clubs have to do these retained lists on a certain day now. This morning was mightily impressed we’d done one so quickly and communicated properly but have just seen that other thread titled ‘EFL retained list’ so wondered if it’s a regulatory requirement?

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Post by Hipper » Tue May 21, 2024 6:01 pm

And what will happen to Obafemi?

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Post by daveisaclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 8:45 am

My pal who supports AGF says Peacock-Farrell was only informed by text we were extending his contract and there is optimism on both sides he will move to Aarhus for a fee.

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Post by PWBFC » Sat Sep 07, 2024 2:09 pm

Harry Moss starting in goal for Gateshead today vs Barnet. Good to see some of our previous youngsters playing at a good level.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 07, 2024 6:42 pm

PWBFC wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2024 2:09 pm
Harry Moss starting in goal for Gateshead today vs Barnet. Good to see some of our previous youngsters playing at a good level.
Never really got game time at Burnley. No matter who played in goal for the u21s, Harry would be the sub.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 07, 2024 6:52 pm

I’ve found these players who have been at Burnley and in National League squads today.

Luke O’Neill (Ebsfleet)
Harry Moss (Gateshead)
Jordan Cropper (Barnet)
Anthony Gomes Mancini (Hartlepool)
Christian N’Guessan (Dagenham & Redbridge)
Sean Hobson (Oldham)
Alex Whitmore (Solihull Moors)
Dan Sassi (Rochdale)
Joe Westley (Rochdale)

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Post by PWBFC » Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:09 pm

Finley Armstrong is another at Rochdale.

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Post by ClaretTony » Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:32 pm

PWBFC wrote:
Sat Sep 07, 2024 9:09 pm
Finley Armstrong is another at Rochdale.
Missed him - he signed permanently for them in the summer too.

And we’d have been able add James Clarke at Solihull had he not been sent off last week.

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