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Re: Next manager

Post by Pickles » Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:32 pm

Brighton look to be moving in on Fabian Hürzeler, the St Pauli manager. Only 31 and just got St Pauli promoted as Champions. Got them playing some brilliant football. I suggested him as an option for us, albeit I said it may be too early and that he'd like to have a go in the Bundesliga with FCSP. Looks like it isn't too early and it could be the Premier League instead.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bfcjg » Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:55 pm

JJ Watt is a genuine guy he bigs the club up at every opportunity, he's a proven winner,he's in touch with the fans. In my books that makes him ideal.
Also when we appointed Dyche did the attitude " what does a bloke who owns a few ships and a bloke with an IT consultancy know about football managers. "
I think that went rather well don't you ?
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Re: Next manager

Post by Nonayforever » Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:23 pm

Whoever we choose as manager I can almost guarantee it will be an out of work manager.
We won't pay compo to another club.

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:32 pm

Nonayforever wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 7:23 pm
Whoever we choose as manager I can almost guarantee it will be an out of work manager.
We won't pay compo to another club.
I absolutely disagree. The board will pay to get their main target, no doubt about it.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Cap » Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:12 pm

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/28386546 ... 1717871178

Apparently Burnley fans are stupid and buffoons not to want Lampard and Parker 🫠

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Re: Next manager

Post by golden days » Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:29 pm

Cap wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:12 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/28386546 ... 1717871178

Apparently Burnley fans are stupid and buffoons not to want Lampard and Parker 🫠
Not a lot to disagree with in that article to be honest

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Re: Next manager

Post by colne-claret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:58 pm

Cap wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:12 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/28386546 ... 1717871178

Apparently Burnley fans are stupid and buffoons not to want Lampard and Parker 🫠
Wonder which one of Parker & Lampard asked him to write that? Bellend.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:07 pm

And there’s absolutely no chance that the guy who wrote this knows the pair of them, and/or is involved with them somehow.

Jumped up tart

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Re: Next manager

Post by FeedTheArf » Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:23 pm

KlyBfc wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 4:55 pm
Frank Lampard would be a disastrous appointment, not only is he a sub standard manager he also probably won’t start work until mid July due to the Euros.

I am clutching to the notion that even our owners can’t be stupid enough to appoint him because of his stature as player…


As for Southgate he will think himself an elite manager now, little Burnley won’t enter his head.
IF it is Lampard his agent wouldn’t be doing his job if he didn’t negotiate a get-out from the punditry work if a management gig was available.

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Re: Next manager

Post by xxmunkyennuixx » Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:26 pm

Poor article making out we are little Burnley and should be grateful because he played for England. This is not about hyper inflated opinions of worth. Lampard is a bad fit. His playing days have got **** all to do with managerial talent. Derby flopped in the play offs. He ****** Everton and got binned off. The media bullshit hype for this guy because he is ex-Chelsea, ex-England is ********. Competence not a name. I could not give a **** about media profile.

Parker has got teams promoted previously and I can understand why there is a case to be made for appointing him. Wouldn't be my choice but it is rational. Lampard is shite. **** the Sun, **** super Frankie Lampard.

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Re: Next manager

Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:33 pm

I think it's quite a funny article. Not even Jesus could sort out Everton apparently, but probably should have mentioned that Dyche did.
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Re: Next manager

Post by clarethomer » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:03 am

I think the article has some merit in their perception of how the fanbase has viewed these links either on here, or on wider social media.

I still remember people were telling us that we needed a Wilder, Mowbray and Warnock before VK came in (and gave us a record points total in a league he'd never managed in before and had not had the best seasons managing back in Belgium).

We only have past performance to judge on so I can understand the views - but you would hope that the young managers being linked will learn from their experience and they have both had some successes in their careers so far. Eddie Howe has learned his trade further as an example.

No manager is guaranteed success but what we need is someone who can come in and work with a young team. Are Parker/Lampard the best options, I don't know but the article does make sense in the logic some fans are showing at times.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:21 am

we just have to let the fat cat owners make their choice, Burnley fans are superfluous to the money plan.
But, as we are committed to the club with little choice because it is in our souls, then hopefully frank lampard gets the vote and takes us forward. social media is awash with fans detesting him, Good, egg on face times ahead then.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:37 am

The journo obviously doesn’t like Burnley but it’s not that far off is it. Parker, 2 promotions from the Championship but people don’t like him because of his cardigans. Lampard hasn’t been as bad as some make out but it seems fashionable to slag him off. I’m not saying I want either but they’re certainly not as bad as some make out.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:52 am

Pearcey wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:37 am
The journo obviously doesn’t like Burnley but it’s not that far off is it. Parker, 2 promotions from the Championship but people don’t like him because of his cardigans. Lampard hasn’t been as bad as some make out but it seems fashionable to slag him off. I’m not saying I want either but they’re certainly not as bad as some make out.
Parker moaned his way through his tenure at Bournemouth then eventually threw his young side under the bus and cried that he couldn't spend a boat load of cash - he got sacked

His time in Belgium with a Champions league side was atrocious


We should get Lampard though, he can lean on his uncle and we can get Crouchy, Defoe and Krancjar in.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:23 am

I want the Burnley board to choose a young manager on the up
Not a washed out rebound manager on the down … any manager linked with us so far would not get a job anywhere else ..Lampard …Parker … Bellamy …. Ur having a laugh

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Re: Next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:45 am

Nothing different in that article to what I’ve thought about a section of the fan base anyway.

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Re: Next manager

Post by beddie » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:09 am

We’ll all have to wait and see who Pace decides is the right candidate. I’m not keen on Lampard or Parker but I would have thought like myself the majority of Burnley fans will back whoever is chosen.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Lew200100 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:10 am

The article has been wrote by a silver tongued journalist who doesn’t understand we aren’t interested in managers who think they are better than us we want a hard working honest manager who doesn’t come with an attitude that we need to be great full of them choosing us.

Bellamy is not do dissimilar to Parker and Lampard in footballing terms but on the other hand he his because he is at rock bottom having declared himself bankrupt. This makes Bellamy a far better option as he has to make it work if he wants to re build is career and bank balance.

We know we aren’t a big club and we don’t want to be and that’s probably why the fans warm to managers like Dyche and managers like Kompany would never fit long term.
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Re: Next manager

Post by expoultryboy » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:12 am

Do you think the club have been waiting for the charity game tonight to finish , before they make the announcement ?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Penwortham_Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:17 am

I simply can’t understand anybody being remotely happy with the idea of Bellamy stepping up when he’s openly admitted that commiting the amount of time to the club that Kompany was having to, isn’t possible for him.

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Re: Next manager

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:29 am

Phil Brown spotted at Crow Wood yesterday.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Carlos the Great » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:41 am

Trafford clearly won’t be playing for Burnley next season .. it’s just how much money we will be getting ..a lot of confusion into how much we paid for him but we probably be happy get our money back

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:45 am

Still no closer to knowing who it will be.

It's fascinating to imagine what is actually going on behind the scenes.

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnleymik » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:53 am

Most interesting name I have seen so far would be Van Nistelrooy.

A bit of a gamble, but seems to fit everything the board is looking for and has done well in his managerial career to date.
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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:58 am

burnleymik wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:53 am
Most interesting name I have seen so far would be Van Nistelrooy.

A bit of a gamble, but seems to fit everything the board is looking for and has done well in his managerial career to date.
Just watched his interview with the Coaches Voice which I enjoyed:

https://youtu.be/Bsi51G1ECO0?si=cZ_o8N6qab2Hn7f5

And done a bit of digging on tactical style / overall profile, definitely fits the bill in my opinion…

- likes to have control via ball dominance, 4-2-3-1 / 4-4-2 shape typically
- likes to create overloads on the wings for his wingers to isolate their man 1 v 1
- happy coaching and playing young players but also likes a mix of experience in there
- big name that Pace seemingly likes, I’m sure it would go a way to exciting some of the young players we signed
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Re: Next manager

Post by JR1882 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:11 am

Does anyone think that getting £12/13m of un-budgeted income for VK is affecting the thought process and pointing them in the way of a younger “big name”. Success with us and would someone pay big comp for Frank/Parker? Potentially - probs only works with a director of football though.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:57 am

JR1882 wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:11 am
Does anyone think that getting £12/13m of un-budgeted income for VK is affecting the thought process and pointing them in the way of a younger “big name”. Success with us and would someone pay big comp for Frank/Parker? Potentially - probs only works with a director of football though.
I think that would push them more towards a Fabregas or a RVN tbh.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:04 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:58 am
Just watched his interview with the Coaches Voice which I enjoyed:

https://youtu.be/Bsi51G1ECO0?si=cZ_o8N6qab2Hn7f5

And done a bit of digging on tactical style / overall profile, definitely fits the bill in my opinion…

- likes to have control via ball dominance, 4-2-3-1 / 4-4-2 shape typically
- likes to create overloads on the wings for his wingers to isolate their man 1 v 1
- happy coaching and playing young players but also likes a mix of experience in there
- big name that Pace seemingly likes, I’m sure it would go a way to exciting some of the young players we signed
I watched that. Good video. Left me quite open to RVN although I don’t think that’s likely.

To be honest though, I’m struggling to get excited about any of the managers we’re linked with. My overall view is that the system Kompany played worked very well in the Championship and I don’t really want to see wholesale changes and new systems being developed in one pre-season, so whoever it is I’d like to see them come in and evolve the style

Lampard and Parker wouldn’t be my picks (don’t really have any alternatives to offer up though) but think they’re both getting unfair criticism and could do a job. Either will get my backing if that’s who we choose.
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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:07 am

Leicester City have made contact with former Brighton and Chelsea boss Graham Potter over their managerial vacancy

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Re: Next manager

Post by equinox » Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:13 am

burnleymik wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:53 am
Most interesting name I have seen so far would be Van Nistelrooy.
With Martin Keown as his assistant?
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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:33 am

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:07 am
Leicester City have made contact with former Brighton and Chelsea boss Graham Potter over their managerial vacancy
Maybe that still leaves the door open for Cooper.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:07 pm

Cap wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 10:12 pm
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/28386546 ... 1717871178

Apparently Burnley fans are stupid and buffoons not to want Lampard and Parker 🫠
That's quite the most silly article I think I've ever read...! I'm quite stunned that anyone capable of such drivel is allowed to write in a national newspaper.

I think any fair minded person would have reservations about Lampard and Parker given their recent records. And I'm not sure anyone really knows what the fanbase thinks anyway.

Given the current situation the club is in we need a sure fire winner and in reality most managers come with a history of some wins and some losses. I think the fanbase is reflecting the reality that a poor decision would leave the club in a big mess.

I suspect the attitudes towards Lampard and Parker are just a reflection of that.
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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:13 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 11:33 pm
I think it's quite a funny article. Not even Jesus could sort out Everton apparently, but probably should have mentioned that Dyche did.
This is how dim witted the argument is...! Someone came in and immediately improved Everton.
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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:27 pm

The problem with football in the English pyramid system is that other than the elite clubs it's a hard slog to be successful. It is why the Americans don't have relegation or other things that make our league so competitive.

Appointing a manager is often a lottery because as often as not what makes a great manager is people skills and the ability to galvanise a group of players.

There is no science of success in a very competitive marketplace finding the best fit for a situation is an art not a science. And serendipity is a big factor: who is available at any given time.

Younger managers that have an ideological perspective are fine if they share it with the previous incumbent. Of course, except where the previous incumbent went a long way to proving that the particular ideology doesn't work.

The problem is, dominoes on a chess board often track better much better than 19 year olds on a football pitch.
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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:34 pm

It’s Lampard 100%

We all know pace went down to London to meet with him, let him spend the week doing soccer aid and then get him up to Burnley tomorrow to get all the formalities sorted before the then goes and spends a couple of weeks doing the euros

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Re: Next manager

Post by NL Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:35 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:34 pm
It’s Lampard 100%

We all know pace went down to London to meet with him, let him spend the week doing soccer aid and then get him up to Burnley tomorrow to get all the formalities sorted before the then goes and spends a couple of weeks doing the euros
We all know? I didn't.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ecc » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:37 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:29 am
Phil Brown spotted at Crow Wood yesterday.
Sounds like a line from a western.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:38 pm

I can’t believe in this day and age that people still buy and read the S*n.
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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:41 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:34 pm
It’s Lampard 100%

We all know pace went down to London to meet with him, let him spend the week doing soccer aid and then get him up to Burnley tomorrow to get all the formalities sorted before the then goes and spends a couple of weeks doing the euros
If it’s 100%, literally 0% chance it’s anyone else, I’d be putting as much £ as I possibly can on him, while it’s still almost evens. Printing money surely?

Btw, we don’t ’all know’ that Pace went to London to meet him, where has this been reported?

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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:42 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:41 pm
If it’s 100%, literally 0% chance it’s anyone else, I’d be putting as much £ as I possibly can on him, while it’s still almost evens. Printing money surely?

Btw I did not know Pace went to London to meet him, where has this been reported?
Free money, apparently!

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:42 pm

NL Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:35 pm
We all know? I didn't.
I didn't either other than I think Easy has mentioned it before. It seems like an Alan Pace kind of appointment with one eye on the brand and the marketing.

Saying that Lampard's only real success was that first season at Chelsea working with young players and a transfer embargo so there is definitely room for optimism if it is Lampard.

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Re: Next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:43 pm

Out of all the candidates I could get behind Lampard, but what worries me is that the fans wouldn’t give him time and we would have to endure ridiculous Lampard out threads next season.
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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:44 pm

Pickles wrote:
Sat Jun 08, 2024 6:32 pm
Brighton look to be moving in on Fabian Hürzeler, the St Pauli manager. Only 31 and just got St Pauli promoted as Champions. Got them playing some brilliant football. I suggested him as an option for us, albeit I said it may be too early and that he'd like to have a go in the Bundesliga with FCSP. Looks like it isn't too early and it could be the Premier League instead.
And his failing neighbourhood manager Tim Walter has got the Hull job
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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:44 pm

The truth is, nobody has a clue about what’s going on currently. People on this board can pretend to be in the know, but as always, they will end up with egg on their faces.

It’s quite sad that people make stuff up to be popular on an online forum.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Pickles » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:44 pm
And his failing neighbourhood manager Tim Walter has got the Hull job
Yes that seems a bit of an odd one.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:45 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:43 pm
Out of all the candidates I could get behind Lampard, but what worries me is that the fans wouldn’t give him time and we would have to endure ridiculous Lampard out threads next season.
The majority of fans on this board don’t go to matches - the fans who attend games would fully get behind any manager. You’re forgetting that the most vociferous people on here don’t attend games.
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Re: Next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:46 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:45 pm
The majority of fans on this board don’t go to matches - the fans who attend games would fully get behind any manager. You’re forgetting that the most vociferous people on here don’t attend games.
Good point, which makes it even more ridiculous.

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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:47 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:43 pm
Out of all the candidates I could get behind Lampard, but what worries me is that the fans wouldn’t give him time and we would have to endure ridiculous Lampard out threads next season.
I'm sure most sensible supporters would get behind Lampard if he gets appointed, which nobody on here knows if he will right now.

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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:47 pm

ClaretInLeeds wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:45 pm
The majority of fans on this board don’t go to matches - the fans who attend games would fully get behind any manager. You’re forgetting that the most vociferous people on here don’t attend games.
Spot on.

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