Cryptic tweet on Twitter

[ChristheViking]

The unjustified melodrama on here that was completely off the mark is totally embarrassing.

I'm embarrassed for them.

[Vegas Claret]

It's a business, they are trying to bring more money into it. Not sure how people are getting upset about it. If it enables us to get better in the long term then crack on

[Oshkoshclaret]

I thought BFC had reached peak incompetence last year when it took 45 minutes and 2 ruined shirts before they could correctly print an Odobert shirt for my nephew.

But now we have the grand launch of the membership scheme, with the website sayin “Sorry! We have no memberships to purchase”

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[NewClaret]

Well that was a let down,cant see much uptake for that

Pretty much how I feel.

Of all the things they could’ve been doing to really improve things for supporters - like improving the catering or merchandise, which actually might drive tangible revenue increases - and they’re investing time in a scheme I can’t really see anyone taking up.

Anyway… try to be positive… try to be positive…

[TsarBomba]

It's a business, they are trying to bring more money into it. Not sure how people are getting upset about it. If it enables us to get better in the long term then crack on

Don’t think anyone has an issue with the club wanting to bring more money in. The membership looks a bit naff, but if it works for some, then fine.

The issue I have, and no doubt many others have, is that beyond the veneer of a new glitzy membership scheme, are the continued (basic) issues that blight ‘fan experience’. I don’t need to list them because we all know what they are.

What would help me feel ‘more connected’, or ‘closer’ is actually having a ticket office that answers calls, or a customer service department that responds to emails. I’ve genuinely tried to speak to the club for 18 months about an account issue, without success, and now I’ve just given up.

When what should be quite basic issues fail to get resolved, despite being repeatedly brought up over many years, then it’s hard not to be cynical about a new membership scheme such as this.

[TsarBomba]

Pretty much how I feel.

Of all the things they could’ve been doing to really improve things for supporters - like improving the catering or merchandise, which actually might drive tangible revenue increases - and they’re investing time in a scheme I can’t really see anyone taking up.

Anyway… try to be positive… try to be positive…

If the club were really bothered about improving ‘fan experience’ then there are so many issues that the club could/should be getting their teeth stuck into.

[CoolClaret]

So many on here are so disingenuous and strawman any point, it's beyond frustrating.

The 'B' is atrocious and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's probably going to be on some merch and maybe even a 3rd or 4th kit at some point.

"Sanitises our brand" Blimey, It's a letter B.

Yes it does, it's gimmicky and naff. It has a franchise feel.

My point is that I think the club has more unique selling points that can be elaborated on and marketed than using gimmicky, naff crap.

[Big Vinny K]

If the club were really bothered about improving ‘fan experience’ then there are so many issues that the club could/should be getting their teeth stuck into.

100% this.

Other than of course our match day experience the other main way most of us interact with the club is buying our season ticket and away tickets. For the last few years this experience has been atrocious but the club have shown how little they care about this by doing absolutely zero to fix it. In fact under the new owners it has got even worse every season.

[GetIntoEm]

Don’t think anyone has an issue with the club wanting to bring more money in. The membership looks a bit naff, but if it works for some, then fine.

The issue I have, and no doubt many others have, is that beyond the veneer of a new glitzy membership scheme, are the continued (basic) issues that blight ‘fan experience’. I don’t need to list them because we all know what they are.

What would help me feel ‘more connected’, or ‘closer’ is actually having a ticket office that answers calls, or a customer service department that responds to emails. I’ve genuinely tried to speak to the club for 18 months about an account issue, without success, and now I’ve just given up.

When what should be quite basic issues fail to get resolved, despite being repeatedly brought up over many years, then it’s hard not to be cynical about a new membership scheme such as this.

Let's face it, we've had the worst ticket office in the football league for at least 30 years

[claret2018]

I honestly think some people need an interest outside of football.

[Walton]

Some of the reactions from some fans over the last few weeks have been pathetic and embarrassing to be honest

[Row x]

100% this.

Other than of course our match day experience the other main way most of us interact with the club is buying our season ticket and away tickets. For the last few years this experience has been atrocious but the club have shown how little they care about this by doing absolutely zero to fix it. In fact under the new owners it has got even worse every season.

Yes, some fans have had problems with the ticketing system

But, and it's a big but as far as the owners are concerned, the majority of fans have had no problems at all

What does appear to be an issue, and it was the same with the previous board, is that the issues some have, don't get resolved.

[Jakubclaret]

Some of the reactions from some fans over the last few weeks have been pathetic and embarrassing to be honest

In what way?

[Poulton-le-Claret]

If the club were really bothered about improving ‘fan experience’ then there are so many issues that the club could/should be getting their teeth stuck into.

Very true, I reckon I'd spend over £60 a season on food and drink in the stadium if it wasn't such a nightmare trying to get it.

[TheFamilyCat]

I honestly think some people need an interest outside of football.

Some people need an interest outside of fonts.

[randomclaret2]

I honestly think some people need an interest outside of football.

Im guessing most of us do, but this is a football forum after all

[TheFamilyCat]

So many on here are so disingenuous and strawman any point, it's beyond frustrating.

The 'B' is atrocious and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it's probably going to be on some merch and maybe even a 3rd or 4th kit at some point.



Yes it does, it's gimmicky and naff. It has a franchise feel.

My point is that I think the club has more unique selling points that can be elaborated on and marketed than using gimmicky, naff crap.

You got your knickers in a twist over something that didn't even happen. So what if it turns up on some merchandise?

[NewClaret]

Very true, I reckon I'd spend over £60 a season on food and drink in the stadium if it wasn't such a nightmare trying to get it.

I could honestly spend that in a few games if it were decent beer/food/I didn’t have to miss half the match to get served.

[Cooclaret]

You could argue, in fact, it is closer to the 1935 badge. How is that not being traditional?

Because the club has the audacity to make a change to a business they bought with their own millions (and some of the clubs) without running it past this board…

And so, many noses were put out of place, and some egos were damaged.

[Spike]

Total waste of time
Have the “investors “ ever thought about putting more money in ?
The biggest problem is that they invested too little and borrowed too much
The “owners” of other clubs don’t just invest once . If more money is needed they “ help out” .

[Vegas Claret]

Don’t think anyone has an issue with the club wanting to bring more money in. The membership looks a bit naff, but if it works for some, then fine.

The issue I have, and no doubt many others have, is that beyond the veneer of a new glitzy membership scheme, are the continued (basic) issues that blight ‘fan experience’. I don’t need to list them because we all know what they are.

What would help me feel ‘more connected’, or ‘closer’ is actually having a ticket office that answers calls, or a customer service department that responds to emails. I’ve genuinely tried to speak to the club for 18 months about an account issue, without success, and now I’ve just given up.

When what should be quite basic issues fail to get resolved, despite being repeatedly brought up over many years, then it’s hard not to be cynical about a new membership scheme such as this.

two different things

To your points, 100%, it's an absolute **** show and it makes me wonder what the purpose of Russell Ball is too

[GetIntoEm]

Total waste of time
Have the “investors “ ever thought about putting more money in ?
The biggest problem is that they invested too little and borrowed too much
The “owners” of other clubs don’t just invest once . If more money is needed they “ help out” .

Why would they need to help out? We're likely to have a decent profit being reported soon.

[Walton]

In what way?

Well we've had full scale arguments about the letter B within this thread, and this is all hot on the heels of the kittens people were having the other week when we sold players for loads of money yet people couldn't comprehend that we might sign players ourselves in the week the window closed.

[CoolClaret]

Well we've had full scale arguments about the letter B within this thread, and this is all hot on the heels of the kittens people were having the other week when we sold players for loads of money yet people couldn't comprehend that we might sign players ourselves in the week the window closed.

Another disingenuous, straw man post about genuine critiques to the transfers. Well done.

[CoolClaret]

We’ve moved on. Cardiff were forced to switch back to blue, MK was against rules then but they got away with it although they wouldn’t now. The owners of Hull tried to change the club name. Moshiri changed to Everton badge but was eventually forced to back track.

Owners cannot do as they like and once the regulator is in place it will be much more difficult for them.

It never ceases to amaze me how surface-level people think about issues.

Football clubs aren't just 'a business', it isn't a plaything and they certainly aren't 'franchises'.

Even more concerning how some seemingly wish that they were.

What makes the footballing pyramid, the sporting heritage & the passion of fans so special is because of the combined, collective effort of thousands upon thousands of people over decades to develop the sport into what it is today.

[Burnley1989]

It never ceases to amaze me how surface-level people think about issues.

Football clubs aren't just 'a business', it isn't a plaything and they certainly aren't 'franchises'.

Even more concerning how some seemingly wish that they were.

What makes the footballing pyramid, the sporting heritage & the passion of fans so special is because of the combined, collective effort of thousands upon thousands of people over decades to develop the sport into what it is today.

Whilst I understand your point, and wish it wasnt the case, football clubs at professional level are just businesses no matter how you try to dress it up.

Football has changed dramatically over the last 30 years and it won't ever go back to what it was

[Jakubclaret]

Well we've had full scale arguments about the letter B within this thread, and this is all hot on the heels of the kittens people were having the other week when we sold players for loads of money yet people couldn't comprehend that we might sign players ourselves in the week the window closed.

Fair enough some people overreacted but when as it ever been different on here. In fairness the speed & volume people were leaving with little time left in the window to reinforce it's no big surprise when you weigh all the factors up that people were concerned & rightly so. Had it been 1 out 1 in or even 2 out 1 in in a timely manner it's understandable but when you are talking numbers out with no imminent arrivals it's normal reactions.

[TheFamilyCat]

It never ceases to amaze me how surface-level people think about issues.

Football clubs aren't just 'a business', it isn't a plaything and they certainly aren't 'franchises'.

Even more concerning how some seemingly wish that they were.

What makes the footballing pyramid, the sporting heritage & the passion of fans so special is because of the combined, collective effort of thousands upon thousands of people over decades to develop the sport into what it is today.

Are you seriously equating not being arsed if a B appears on a few hoodies to wishing BFC was a franchise?

[claretonthecoast1882]

It would be a lot easier if those who were wrong just admitted it instead of continuing to post nonsense.

The lesson here is to stop gaining all your information and knowledge in general from twitter

[Rileybobs]

Well we've had full scale arguments about the letter B within this thread, and this is all hot on the heels of the kittens people were having the other week when we sold players for loads of money yet people couldn't comprehend that we might sign players ourselves in the week the window closed.

I’ve not really got anything to say about the ‘B’ logo or this membership scheme, but did people really overreact when they criticised the board for leaving Parker with a totally inadequate squad to face Sunderland and one which hadn’t had anywhere near enough time to prepare to face Rovers? Resulting in us missing out on what could be 5 invaluable points come the end of the season.

[RammyClaret61]

Burnley fans whinging… who'’d’ve thunk!

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1972 I think.

[Big Vinny K]

Well we've had full scale arguments about the letter B within this thread, and this is all hot on the heels of the kittens people were having the other week when we sold players for loads of money yet people couldn't comprehend that we might sign players ourselves in the week the window closed.

it’s great that you were calm and collected and think that this was a well planned and brilliantly executed strategy.

I think you may have been in the minority though.

SP would not have wanted to be starting players who were busy negotiating leaving the club. He would not have wanted to be signing new players hours before the deadline a day before the derby.

You are entitled to your opinion that this is the best way to run the club just like others are entitled to think it’s not.

[wilks_bfc]

Burnley fans whinging… who'’d’ve thunk!

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1972 I think.

Wonder what David thinks about todays supporter

[Anonymous Claret]

SP knows that every transfer window around deadline day there is potentially going to be a lot of movement of incoming and outgoing players. SP managed it the best he could and he also said in his presser before the Rovers game that it was the same for every other club.

As you know this is more likely to be driven players and agents waiting until the very last minute to get the best deals for themselves. SP would have known this when he was appointed. The problem is the system that allows the transfer window to remain open several weeks after the season has started. As someone mentioned on another thread a few weeks ago unless all the other European leagues are in alignment with the English leagues this problem will occur every season.

[quoonbeatz]

it’s great that you were calm and collected and think that this was a well planned and brilliantly executed strategy.

I think you may have been in the minority though.

SP would not have wanted to be starting players who were busy negotiating leaving the club. He would not have wanted to be signing new players hours before the deadline a day before the derby.

You are entitled to your opinion that this is the best way to run the club just like others are entitled to think it’s not.

Not sure it was a minority, a lot was just social media racket. Parker won’t have wanted the above but if he didn’t expect it, then I’m not sure why he signed up for the job as it was always going to happen; not ideal but it’s pretty the same every season at clubs like ours.

That transfer thread on here was wild, I genuinely feared for the mental health of some people, flying off the handle at the merest suggestion of things that might or might not happen, hanging on every word of the parasitic transfer ‘gurus’ on twitter. Doesn’t just apply to our fans obvs but every year we hope a few people learn the lessons of the transfer window - only business that happens matters. Rumours mean jack. They won’t though, the same people will be up in arms at ‘Sacha/Fab/Nixon’s’ latest cryptic tweet again.

[Row x]

I'm going to buy a junior package
Excellent value
Thank you to the club for dragging us kicking and screaming into the 21st century..... If only supporters could move on in a similar fashion

[Row x]

Not sure it was a minority, a lot was just social media racket. Parker won’t have wanted the above but if he didn’t expect it, then I’m not sure why he signed up for the job as it was always going to happen; not ideal but it’s pretty the same every season at clubs like ours.

That transfer thread on here was wild, I genuinely feared for the mental health of some people, flying off the handle at the merest suggestion of things that might or might not happen, hanging on every word of the parasitic transfer ‘gurus’ on twitter. Doesn’t just apply to our fans obvs but every year we hope a few people learn the lessons of the transfer window - only business that happens matters. Rumours mean jack. They won’t though, the same people will be up in arms at ‘Sacha/Fab/Nixon’s’ latest cryptic tweet again.

I go to most games, but every now and again read the matchday thread
If we go 1.0 down everyone wants the manager sacking, all players are crap etc etc
Sunderland two years ago was a brilliant example
We sell a player, and it's the end of the world, no thought to who might be coming in to replace said player
I really hope people don't live their lives, like they live on here.

[Plissken]

Wonder what David thinks about todays supporter

I want to know what he thinks about the music. "When I wrote that I was wanting some popular beat combos. The Beatles, Gerry and the Pacemakers. Not this rubbish. Sounds like someone dropped a full dishwasher down a flight of stars. Lady Gaga? I tell yer, she's not even a real lady but she's definitely gaga..."

[randomclaret2]

Burnley fans whinging… who'’d’ve thunk!

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1972 I think.

Pre 72 given the currency

[Barn4Burn]

How dare they try and increase the fan base. They should be trying to appease the stagnant.

[Cooclaret]

Anyone got anything to throw at the owners after today’s performance?

Looking forward to reading how they’re going to twist this to fit their narratives!

[Pickles]

Anyone got anything to throw at the owners after today’s performance?

Looking forward to reading how they’re going to twist this to fit their narratives!

That B logo's shite and the membership thing is tacky. Buzzing about the win today.

I don't know about you but I'm able to have more than one opinion at the same time, what a miracle!

[CoolClaret]

Anyone got anything to throw at the owners after today’s performance?

Looking forward to reading how they’re going to twist this to fit their narratives!

Weird comment.

[Cooclaret]

Weird comment.

That’s the way you’re going?

You’re a prime candidate for twisting this!