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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:41 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:19 pm
Can you bookmark posts on here?
Haha feel free, he’s a player I’ve wanted us to sign for nearly three years, I’m probably more jealous than anything .

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by AfloatinClaret » Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:52 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:34 am
...My main worry is that a deal was actually in place in summer and didn’t happen... meaning we now have some form of gentleman’s agreement in place with Newcastle/Trafford to do it now.
Such a situation might also explain why Hladky was prepared to trade a starting spot at Ipswich to instead sit on our bench

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:11 pm

Me thoughts entirely

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:40 pm
I remember watching him at Lorient a couple of years ago (when I wanted us to sign him in the summer we got promoted).

He’s a top player that’s had a bad move. I’m just amazed he’s willing to drop to the championship (IMO he’s actually exactly what we need).

Big statement from Sunderland. Got to imagine this might kick the likes of us and the other two into similar moves
I would hope we didn’t need any kicking and already have some ambitious plans lined up. Although a lack of firm links at the moment…

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Pickles » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:31 pm

Lewis O'Brien is back from LA and available on loan from Forest. Was excellent for Huddersfield in the season they got to the playoff final. Wrong move to Forest and then the cock up of his failed move to Rovers. Would like us to be interested.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:32 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:52 pm
Such a situation might also explain why Hladky was prepared to trade a starting spot at Ipswich to instead sit on our bench
To be honest, I still don’t understand the Hladky situation as I’d have thought he’d fancy a shot at the premier league.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:51 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:10 pm
Anyone that’s actually seen this lad play will know just how good of a signing that is.

Best player in the league by some distance.
The best player in the league in one who delivers key things in that league.

At the moment that is Maxime Esteve. His role in the best ever defence (so far) attests to that.

This new lad may yet be a world beater, but then again he may not.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by louieollie » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:51 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 8:10 pm
Anyone that’s actually seen this lad play will know just how good of a signing that is.

Best player in the league by some distance.
Never heard of him or seen him so not about to blow my wad on what could have been ..............ignorance is bliss sometimes 😉
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Spijed » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:54 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:32 pm
To be honest, I still don’t understand the Hladky situation as I’d have thought he’d fancy a shot at the premier league.
When Ipswich signed Muric he probably realised he wouldn't be number one.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:55 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:51 pm
The best player in the league in one who delivers key things in that league.

At the moment that is Maxime Esteve. His role in the best ever defence (so far) attests to that.

This new lad may yet be a world beater, but then again he may not.
Potentially just opinions but for me I don’t think a defender can be the best player in the league.

Got to be an attacker surely.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by DCWat » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:10 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:55 pm
Potentially just opinions but for me I don’t think a defender can be the best player in the league.

Got to be an attacker surely.
Why can’t a defender be the best player in a league? That’s just nonsense.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by AfloatinClaret » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:10 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:54 pm
When Ipswich signed Muric he probably realised he wouldn't be number one.
But I suspect - especially being available for free - that Hladky could have found himself a starting place in the Championship rather than sitting on Burnley's bench

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:14 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:10 pm
Why can’t a defender be the best player in a league? That’s just nonsense.
Last defender to get championship player of the year was Jagielka in 2006

Not exactly a ridiculous statement. Really uncommon for a defender to be the best player in the league.

As good as Esteve has been difficult to say he’s best player in the league when I’m not sure he’s our best player.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Mattster » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:16 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:10 pm
But I suspect - especially being available for free - that Hladky could have found himself a starting place in the Championship rather than sitting on Burnley's bench
Not one that would pay as well though, I'd imagine unless Sheffield United were interested and they were focused on Cooper.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by DCWat » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:19 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:14 pm
Last defender to get championship player of the year was Jagielka in 2006

Not exactly a ridiculous statement. Really uncommon for a defender to be the best player in the league.

As good as Esteve has been difficult to say he’s best player in the league when I’m not sure he’s our best player.
So a defender can be the best player - you’ve contradicted what you said. Yes, it’s rarer, but there’s no reason that a defender (or goalkeeper for that matter) can’t be voted the best player in a league.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Robbie_painter » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:20 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:14 pm
Last defender to get championship player of the year was Jagielka in 2006

Not exactly a ridiculous statement. Really uncommon for a defender to be the best player in the league.

As good as Esteve has been difficult to say he’s best player in the league when I’m not sure he’s our best player.
Even more difficult to say a player is the best in the league when he hasn’t played a single game in said league yet.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:22 pm

DCWat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:19 pm
So a defender can be the best player - you’ve contradicted what you said. Yes, it’s rarer, but there’s no reason that a defender (or goalkeeper for that matter) can’t be voted the best player in a league.
I didn’t say it can’t happen. I said in my opinion I don’t think a defender can be.

Still don’t think a defender can be best player in the league. Got to be an attacker as they win you the games. Can have 46 0-0 draws and potentially get relegated

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:26 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:22 pm
I didn’t say it can’t happen. I said in my opinion I don’t think a defender can be.

Still don’t think a defender can be best player in the league. Got to be an attacker as they win you the games. Can have 46 0-0 draws and potentially get relegated

Or 46 5-5 draws?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by DCWat » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:26 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:22 pm
I didn’t say it can’t happen. I said in my opinion I don’t think a defender can be.

Still don’t think a defender can be best player in the league. Got to be an attacker as they win you the games. Can have 46 0-0 draws and potentially get relegated
“Attackers win you games, defenders win you titles”.

It’s a bit odd quoting a statement of a defender winning player of the season and then saying you don’t think a defender can be best player in the league.

Our previous manager won it in the Premier League, as did Schmeichel, Vidić (x2) van Dijk to name a few non strikers.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Stonehouse » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:27 pm

Think the arguement against a defender being best in the league is blown out of the water .
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Kevwando » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:30 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:22 pm
I didn’t say it can’t happen. I said in my opinion I don’t think a defender can be.

Still don’t think a defender can be best player in the league. Got to be an attacker as they win you the games. Can have 46 0-0 draws and potentially get relegated
46 clean sheets and the back four will be fighting over the best player of the league award.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by louieollie » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:43 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:55 pm
Potentially just opinions but for me I don’t think a defender can be the best player in the league.

Got to be an attacker surely.
🫣 Good lord 😵💫

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Lakeland Claret » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:47 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:54 pm
When Ipswich signed Muric he probably realised he wouldn't be number one.
He d left Ipswich after turning down contract before Music signed I think

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:53 pm

Didn’t mean to ruin the “transfers” thread by suggesting one of our players is the best in the league :lol: That’ll teach me for backing my own team.

But what it does show is that given the debate, this Sunderland guy is no different to many other signings, including some of ours. He may improve them, but it is unlikely to be decisively.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by TheFamilyCat » Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:00 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:48 pm
That is an absolutely insane signing.

He’s way way too good for this league. Best player in this league and they haven’t even had to pay a fee.
Fortunately you don't have a history of outrageous predictions.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by jojomk1 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:11 am

So Sunderland might get Enzo Le Fee
We get Barnes
What's the difference ?
Trust in our recruitment team
Still over three weeks to go

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Blyclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:12 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:00 am
Fortunately you don't have a history of outrageous predictions.


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Wow bit of a conversation stopper

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:14 am

Never heard of Enzo Le Fee but according to wiki he hasn't scored a goal since 22/23 season and now been bombed by Roma who are 10th in Serie A.

I presume he isn't an attacking midfielder but just read he is the best player in this league so what kind of player is he

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:24 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:14 am
Never heard of Enzo Le Fee but according to wiki he hasn't scored a goal since 22/23 season and now been bombed by Roma who are 10th in Serie A.

I presume he isn't an attacking midfielder but just read he is the best player in this league so what kind of player is he
His best seasons have come when playing as an attacking midfielder, at Lorient in Ligue 1 he got 10 goal contributions (more importantly was right up there for big chances created and chances created).

Since then he has moved into a DM type role and hasn’t had the same output.

I imagine he’s gone to Sunderland to play attacking midfield again

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by bumba » Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:44 am

Newcastle now chasing Kamil Grabara from Wolfsburg due to a January deal for Trafford being complicated
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by JohnDearyMe » Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:02 am

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:00 am
Fortunately you don't have a history of outrageous predictions.


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Come on be fair, he didn't specify that he would be bagging 20 goals, I think he was actually referring to substitute appearances...

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:57 am

bumba wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:44 am
Newcastle now chasing Kamil Grabara from Wolfsburg due to a January deal for Trafford being complicated
Glad we are keeping Trafford seems to be getting more confident each week

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 10:50 am

Blackburn seemingly struggling in their swoop to loan Stoke's bench warming defender Kitching, unwanted by Lampard or most Stoke fans.

We'll never sing that, I'd imagine.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:11 am

DCWat wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:26 pm
“Attackers win you games, defenders win you titles”.
There's a lot of truth in that.
Over the course of a season an exceptional defender, most especially a goalkeeper, is likely to prevent you from conceding more 'likely' goals than the amount of extra goals an outstanding striker will score for you.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Rowls » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:34 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:26 pm
Or 46 5-5 draws?
You might stay up on goal difference.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:35 am

Owen Dodgson has joined Burton on loan

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:44 am

In for Jonjo Shelvey according to Turkish media. LOL

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:51 am

Weirdly jonjo shelvey on a deal till the end of the season wouldn’t actually be a bad deal

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by burnleycclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:53 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:51 am
Weirdly jonjo shelvey on a deal till the end of the season wouldn’t actually be a bad deal
Can't believe he's only 32. Always liked him as an attacking central midfielder who could spray quality passes around.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Mattster » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:54 am

Hope not. Would be another waste of a wage under the justification of "experience".

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:58 am

We've got Hannibal a modern day and younger Shelvey
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:58 am

Mattster wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:54 am
Hope not. Would be another waste of a wage under the justification of "experience".
Why is it a waste of a wage, if you could get an experienced player for 6 months to be back up to the 4 CMs we have at the moment it’s not a waste.

We have Cullen Laurent brownhill and then Hannibal, if we get injuries we are then short in the position

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by dandeclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:58 am

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:44 am
In for Jonjo Shelvey according to Turkish media. LOL
Good footballer.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:00 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:58 am
Why is it a waste of a wage, if you could get an experienced player for 6 months to be back up to the 4 CMs we have at the moment it’s not a waste.

We have Cullen Laurent brownhill and then Hannibal, if we get injuries we are then short in the position
It is the one area of the squad where we are certainly light on numbers

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by burnleycclaret » Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:03 pm

Shelvey could also play in the 10 role, although I've always found him at his best running from deep through the middle of midfield and speeding the attack up - potentially meaning less passing back/sideways.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:08 pm

We have our starting midfield 3 pretty much nailed on now and then in low block teams it’s Cullen with brownhill higher and then a number 10, having Shelvey on a cheap deal till the end of the season with an option if he performs well wouldn’t be a bad deal

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Mattster » Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:18 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:58 am
Why is it a waste of a wage, if you could get an experienced player for 6 months to be back up to the 4 CMs we have at the moment it’s not a waste.

We have Cullen Laurent brownhill and then Hannibal, if we get injuries we are then short in the position
Because we have four senior central midfielders already. Rather use one of the U21s as depth there than waste a wage on snail paced Shelvey to probably play about about 180 minutes all season and block progression routes for younger players. Bauress, Veevers, McDermott or Hugill are all perfectly capable of being emergency backup and picking up 5 minutes here or there.

Better still look to bring in a long term replacement for Bronwhill who we can phase in over the next month before he walks away on a free.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by BurnleyFC » Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:18 pm

Make no mistake, Shelvey was a terrific player. I just hope he still is if we’re after him.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by randomclaret2 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:21 pm

Mattster wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:18 pm
Because we have four senior central midfielders already. Rather use one of the U21s as depth there than waste a wage on snail paced Shelvey to probably play about about 180 minutes all season and block progression routes for younger players. Bauress, Veevers, McDermott or Hugill are all perfectly capable of being emergency backup and picking up 5 minutes here or there.

Better still look to bring in a long term replacement for Bronwhill who we can phase in over the next month before he walks away on a free.
If we're serious about being promoted we need proper backup in an essential area of the field

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:21 pm

We are definitely skint then

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