Jos Buttler stands down

[ClaretTony]

He’s stood down as England white ball captain

[CleggHall]

A good decision, excellent 1 day batsman but very poor captain. Replacement will be difficult to find

[ClaretTony]

A good decision, excellent 1 day batsman but very poor captain. Replacement will be difficult to find

I don’t agree he’s a poor captain, he’s just taken over during a period of transition.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Decent player on his day but they have been few and far between over recent years.

[Quickenthetempo]

The only trouble with cricket captaincy, is that it rarely comes available when things are going well.

[Casper2]

I don’t agree he’s a poor captain, he’s just taken over during a period of transition.

So who’s responsible for the lack of preparation, playing golf instead of nets and picking players who haven’t played before ?

[ClaretTony]

So who’s responsible for the lack of preparation, playing golf instead of nets and picking players who haven’t played before ?

I would think the coaches and whoever selects the players.

[equinox]

Never heard of him.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

Jos did a decent job. We need to stop selecting our best players and making them captains, it doesn’t come naturally to many. Mike Brearley was one of our best captains but a long way off being our best player.

[Stevie2112]

So who’s responsible for the lack of preparation, playing golf instead of nets and picking players who haven’t played before ?

Every England player had a net the day before the game,they even gave this out on the commentary.
The biggest problem was the selection of too many similar bowlers, not enough variation, and under performance with the bat from many players.

[Andreshotboots]

I would think the coaches and whoever selects the players.

To me it's far deeper than that. Under McCullum there is zero consequences for poor shot selection and game management.

This goes right back to the Ashes where we were pulverising the Aussies, and out of desperation they went to bowling shortt pitched stuff, and about 5 of our batmen all got out out of pure arrogance and hideous game management, duck and dive for an hour and we'd have probably won that test.

It's the same in the 1 day arena, players like salt and Livingstone completely flatter to deceive, they hit a couple of decent shots then play a shot a club cricketer would regret and somehow retain their places game after game.

Root showed exactly how to bat in a 50 over game against Afghanistan, problem is there's very few who have that temperament, or the application to bat like that...and the bowling...don't even get me started

[TheFamilyCat]

To me it's far deeper than that. Under McCullum there is zero consequences for poor shot selection and game management.

This goes right back to the Ashes where we were pulverising the Aussies, and out of desperation they went to bowling shortt pitched stuff, and about 5 of our batmen all got out out of pure arrogance and hideous game management, duck and dive for an hour and we'd have probably won that test.

It's the same in the 1 day arena, players like salt and Livingstone completely flatter to deceive, they hit a couple of decent shots then play a shot a club cricketer would regret and somehow retain their places game after game.

Root showed exactly how to bat in a 50 over game against Afghanistan, problem is there's very few who have that temperament, or the application to bat like that...and the bowling...don't even get me started

Someone will be along shortly to ask if you'd rather watch Chris Tavare.

[Casper2]

Every England player had a net the day before the game,they even gave this out on the commentary.
The biggest problem was the selection of too many similar bowlers, not enough variation, and under performance with the bat from many players.

Didn’t have any before India series

[Casper2]

I would think the coaches and whoever selects the players.

Which the Captain is part of as you well know.

[ClaretTony]

Which the Captain is part of as you well know.

I don't well know sorry

[ClaretTony]

To me it's far deeper than that. Under McCullum there is zero consequences for poor shot selection and game management.

This goes right back to the Ashes where we were pulverising the Aussies, and out of desperation they went to bowling shortt pitched stuff, and about 5 of our batmen all got out out of pure arrogance and hideous game management, duck and dive for an hour and we'd have probably won that test.

It's the same in the 1 day arena, players like salt and Livingstone completely flatter to deceive, they hit a couple of decent shots then play a shot a club cricketer would regret and somehow retain their places game after game.

Root showed exactly how to bat in a 50 over game against Afghanistan, problem is there's very few who have that temperament, or the application to bat like that...and the bowling...don't even get me started

Totally agree.

[Andreshotboots]

Someone will be along shortly to ask if you'd rather watch Chris Tavare.

Played with him at Somerset..Believe it or not he hit the ball harder than anybody at the club..