Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

[Herts Clarets]

I don’t, however, think it was as bad as made out in the podcast and Millwall away is never a game where you judge a season.

Not listened to the podcast yet, but unless they made it out to be akin to our 0-6 v Hereford or similar, then this game, especially the second half was every bit as bad. I cannot understand the logic of our keeper in possession of the ball passing to Roberts to CJ to Esteve to CJ to Esteve then back to Trafford while the opposition get into position. Then inching forward rolling the ball with the bottom of his boot to try and entice a forward to close him down. But they don't and eventually after what seems an age, either repeat the full back to centre half pantomime or launch the ball in the direction of the giant Cooper to win in the air. We were clueless in the second half, make no mistake about that.

[louieollie]

I love the podcast but I do feel they all play it safe and never really commit to anything just in case, a lot of skirting around the edges and not too often getting to the point of the debate. Not one of them admitted what a lot are thinking that maybe just maybe Scotty is not the right man for the job............I think he's lacking that killer instinct and it's finally rubbed off on his players.

[aggi]

Just listened to this and I think the focus on the fact that we should have beaten Millwall was over egged. It is never an easy game and in fact we didn’t win there under VK late in the 101 point season. By all means focus on the lack of creation and low xg etc but to suggest it is an easy game that we should be winning is misguided. I remember a game there under Dyche that we drew too. They were on an unbeaten run too and are clearly a difficult team to beat.

I actually think Parker needed to make a change at halftime given how they had got on top after the linesman change. We certainly needed to start the second half as we did the first so I think he was tactically at fault there. I don’t, however, think it was as bad as made out in the podcast and Millwall away is never a game where you judge a season.

I guess tonight should be a good yardstick for that with Leeds away at Millwall.

[RVclaret]

I guess tonight should be a good yardstick for that with Leeds away at Millwall.

Turned out to be a good yardstick. Looks like Hibsclaret was right.

[Hibsclaret]

It’s not about being right just because of another result. Anyone that knows anything about football in this country knows that Millwall away is a tough game. My point was that the podcast suggested that we should be winning there when we have rarely done that even with much better teams (on paper and in terms of our league position) than Millwall.

[Jakubs Tash]

Everyone is getting this so wrong…. It wasn’t the result against Millwall (or Oxford, or Preston, or QPR etc etc) that was the issue - it was the performance, the negative/conservative tactics and the fact we never really trouble the opposition keeper. Had we gone to Millwall and had a real go but got beat it would have been far easier to accept.

[jlup1980]

Everyone is getting this so wrong…. It wasn’t the result against Millwall (or Oxford, or Preston, or QPR etc etc) that was the issue - it was the performance, the negative/conservative tactics and the fact we never really trouble the opposition keeper. Had we gone to Millwall and had a real go but got beat it would have been far easier to accept.

Absolutely spot on. We're Burnley fans, we can deal with losing... it's happened a lot over the years!! The manner of the defeats is the problem. I'm going tonight so I hope there's a significant uplift in the effort and application of the team. SP needs to take the handbrake off and allow the players to express themselves more. We seem frightened to death of getting the ball in the box!

[dandeclaret]

I love the podcast but I do feel they all play it safe and never really commit to anything just in case, a lot of skirting around the edges and not too often getting to the point of the debate. Not one of them admitted what a lot are thinking that maybe just maybe Scotty is not the right man for the job............I think he's lacking that killer instinct and it's finally rubbed off on his players.

Maybe it's not what a lot are thinking.... maybe it's what a vocal few are thinking. We're Burnley, we give managers time - it's been a key part of our journey over the last 35 years or so. When Stan was under pressure, he got time, we got results. When Dyche was under pressure in the first season, he got time, we got results. We're not a cycle through managers, and all the associated drag it brings - cost of replacements, bloated playing staff with players the manager doesn't want, instability in ways of working for the club..... and long may that continue, especially with a manager moulding a new squad, and who has lost 1 of the last 10 games. And i don't care what Fulham and Bournemouth fans say - Bournemouth fans thought Eddie Howe was fantastic, and broadly he was a load of shite here.

[THEWELLERNUT70]

I thought initially with a runtime of 80 minutes this week we were going to have a 12" extended mix rant and swear laden extravaganza

Unfortunately though the runtime is around 40 minutes and the rest is dead air

[Ightenhill_Claret]

Whoops. Hadn’t realised there was a load of dead air - did wonder why it took a while to process. Apologies for those hoping for an extended sweary Woody remix!

[Row x]

Absolutely spot on. We're Burnley fans, we can deal with losing... it's happened a lot over the years!! The manner of the defeats is the problem. I'm going tonight so I hope there's a significant uplift in the effort and application of the team. SP needs to take the handbrake off and allow the players to express themselves more. We seem frightened to death of getting the ball in the box!

The only performance I have any issue is the Millwall game

Hopefully you were happier with last night's performance

Lots of over reaction on here and social media, but not with fans in general

[Row x]

Maybe it's not what a lot are thinking.... maybe it's what a vocal few are thinking. We're Burnley, we give managers time - it's been a key part of our journey over the last 35 years or so. When Stan was under pressure, he got time, we got results. When Dyche was under pressure in the first season, he got time, we got results. We're not a cycle through managers, and all the associated drag it brings - cost of replacements, bloated playing staff with players the manager doesn't want, instability in ways of working for the club..... and long may that continue, especially with a manager moulding a new squad, and who has lost 1 of the last 10 games. And i don't care what Fulham and Bournemouth fans say - Bournemouth fans thought Eddie Howe was fantastic, and broadly he was a load of shite here.

I would struggle to put it better than this, apart from the Eddie Howe comment, his buys did OK eventually

[Vegas Claret]

When Dyche was under pressure in the first season, he got time, we got results.

Big difference though, we hadn't just dropped out of the PL having spent the GDP of a small country. We don't know at this point how desperate ALK need us to be back there because of the finances - if it's a case of it has to be this season then we will need to see more output from this team, I doubt we will spend much at all in January because of the size of the squad - and it's still a very good squad at this level.

[Hibsclaret]

Any pre game podcast?

[Goliath]

I would struggle to put it better than this, apart from the Eddie Howe comment, his buys did OK eventually

More than OK. He signed 2 future England internationals for about 2 million plus Ben Mee who must have been very close as well.

[forzagranata]

Back from the international break and on all podcast platforms (inc You Tube) with the Bristol City de-brief

[dandeclaret]

That gravy addiction might need some treatment to be fair.... not normal behaviour the lengths gone to to try and salvage a good roast....

[Fretters]

Which one of them was eating their tea with the mic still on last night?

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Which one of them was eating their tea with the mic still on last night?

And doing the washing up

[helmclaret]

Who went you the toilet half way through? Could have muted the mic for that bit.

[ArmchairDetective]

Who went you the toilet half way through? Could have muted the mic for that bit.

Just listened to this exact bit and thought the same

[claretdj]

Who went for a shite mid pod?

[123EasyasBFC]

Whoever it was deep breathing right into the mic to, I had to turn off after 5 minutes

[agreenwood]

Great idea to make up for the absence of a few team members by having one of the podders record from BBC Radio’s sound props department.

We had tapping keys, creaking floorboards, baby toys and mobile phones going off.

Very atmospheric pod. Well done.

[forzagranata]

Mini-pod on the Plymouth game is out on all platforms- utilizing an AI 'you know' remover tool.

Full pod to come on Friday.

[Goody1975]

Mini-pod on the Plymouth game is out on all platforms- utilizing an AI 'you know' remover tool.

Full pod to come on Friday.

Not sure if you have a set time for release, but I find quite often on Monday/Friday mornings that it isn't out in time for the morning commute.

Can this be set at 6am for the early starters?

[forzagranata]

Not sure if you have a set time for release, but I find quite often on Monday/Friday mornings that it isn't out in time for the morning commute.

Can this be set at 6am for the early starters?

Funnily enough, we have just switched over a few production things and you should find that the pod is out overnight UK time - so even if you went for a quick jog at 5am you should find the pod there

[Fretters]

Perfect bonus pod for my 12 minute commute this morning!

[bfc-njr-2017]

Daz Bentley on the pod?! It’s a no from me.

Shame really, this was my favourite Burnley podcast, but I need to stop listening now.

[Jakubs Tash]

Daz Bentley on the pod?! It’s a no from me.

Shame really, this was my favourite Burnley podcast, but I need to stop listening now.

That seems harsh.

Darren has added to the podcast. He speaks well and shares some good opinions - most of which I tend to agree with. He’s a fan like we all are but he can also has some great insight and stories about when he worked for the club.

[dandeclaret]

I think Daz has been a decent addition. I listend to the one with Vizeh on whilst I was flying on a small plane between safari sites in Kenya - i felt I wanted to jump out without a parachute about half way through..... and we'd just won 5-0 as well. It's good that it's a bit more uplifting recently, even the positive weeks were getting hammered by some of the squad.

[Fretters]

Darren is a good bloke and always sorted my mum out with accessible seats (often in the hospitality section) when she was terminally ill. He didn't have to but he always saw her right. Talks a lot of sense on the pod too.

[agreenwood]

Tended to listen to Turfcast more of late, but still listen to this.

Appreciate it’s the generation/reference points of most of the panel, but the constant harping back to Ternent, Cotterill and Dyche grates after a while. I don’t need every current situation compared to something historic.

Will listen to this on my way to Preston tomorrow, but Bentley just added to that harping on about the past I felt. Hopefully there’s a bit less of that in this episode.

[agreenwood]

I think Daz has been a decent addition. I listend to the one with Vizeh on whilst I was flying on a small plane between safari sites in Kenya - i felt I wanted to jump out without a parachute about half way through..... and we'd just won 5-0 as well. It's good that it's a bit more uplifting recently, even the positive weeks were getting hammered by some of the squad.

Was that the episode where Vizeh admitted he’s barely seen a game this season?

[aggi]

I think Daz has been a decent addition. I listend to the one with Vizeh on whilst I was flying on a small plane between safari sites in Kenya - i felt I wanted to jump out without a parachute about half way through..... and we'd just won 5-0 as well. It's good that it's a bit more uplifting recently, even the positive weeks were getting hammered by some of the squad.

What I like about Vizeh being on is you can actually hear him properly.

[Goody1975]

Daz Bentley on the pod?! It’s a no from me.

Shame really, this was my favourite Burnley podcast, but I need to stop listening now.

I kind of agree, in the couple of dealings I had with him he didn't come across well, but I just may have been unlucky.

Also his playing up to the camera when co-commentating on Clarets Player was all a bit weird.

[xxmunkyennuixx]

I really like Connor. He gets the derby. He's a shithouse. I like when he comes inside and orchestrates the midfield. Vinny shafted him.

[dandeclaret]

Who do you reckon the fart culprit at 11:13 was?

Sounds horrendous in headphones

[Row x]

I kind of agree, in the couple of dealings I had with him he didn't come across well, but I just may have been unlucky.

Also his playing up to the camera when co-commentating on Clarets Player was all a bit weird.

I had the same experience, don't think we could both have caught him on an off day

[forzagranata]

Who do you reckon the fart culprit at 11:13 was?

Sounds horrendous in headphones

Ah this was missed in our new, improve audio edit.

I could spend half an hour searching the individual files to find the culprit but I thought I would ask AI who the guilty party was likely to be:

"Paul Woodhouse is the most likely to have made the fart sound. His regular presence, relaxed persona, and potential for humor align with an intentional prank, while his mic time supports an accidental slip. Andrew Greaves, as host, is less likely to be the source; Chris Boden seems too measured; and Darren Bentley’s guest status makes him less probable unless he’s confirmed present and acting out of character.
Final Answer: Paul Woodhouse."

[claret wizard]

Thought the post Preston Cup episode was a bit of an echo chamber. Someone (just to be Devil’s Advocate) has to at least point out that it’s a pretty pointless competition, that we still would have been hard pressed to beat a good Prem side in the 1/4’s and is a distraction for our run in. Spark some debate about the real value of the FA Cup and how Burnley have treated it. Instead we just got foul mouth tirades from armchair fans slagging off the club.

[forzagranata]

Thought the post Preston Cup episode was a bit of an echo chamber. Someone (just to be Devil’s Advocate) has to at least point out that it’s a pretty pointless competition, that we still would have been hard pressed to beat a good Prem side in the 1/4’s and is a distraction for our run in. Spark some debate about the real value of the FA Cup and how Burnley have treated it. Instead we just got foul mouth tirades from armchair fans slagging off the club.

Fair comment. We decided a while ago to do honest, genuine opinions rather then have devil's advocate - but that episode was a good example of why you do sometimes need to go that route.

[helmclaret]

Who do you reckon the fart culprit at 11:13 was?

Sounds horrendous in headphones

We had toilet noises a few weeks ago and now farts!

Must be the same production software Radio 4 uses for the Archers.

[GetIntoEm]

I can only presume they all post here with how positive they all are

[superdimitri]

Don't agree when they compare Gnonto and James to Edwards.
Edwards is the far better player. Clear premier league quality.
Those two are probably peak struggling premier league/top championship players.

Only a matter of time now until we overtake them, Sheffield United probably will too!

[forzagranata]

Promotion episode is out now on all platforms. UTC

[dandeclaret]

A very enjoyable listen - been a great aid to the season again.

[forzagranata]

Cheers. Been nice to see more and more Clarets listening every week.

[forzagranata]

By the way, podcast shows are now also available to watch on You Tube.

https://youtu.be/DB5nWJqly5U?si=iHa6pagkc-rJAQWE

[dandeclaret]

By the way, podcast shows are now also available to watch on You Tube.

https://youtu.be/DB5nWJqly5U?si=iHa6pagkc-rJAQWE

Parental Guidance rating.....