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when we go up ...

Post by brexit » Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:51 pm

Are there any players from the three teams coming down or Leeds (who will fail miserably in the play-offs) that we can realistically sign that would improve our squad?

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Post by StuffyClaret » Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm

Muric?

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Post by fidelcastro » Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:13 pm

IF.

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Post by Goliath » Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:37 pm

brexit wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:51 pm
Are there any players from the three teams coming down or Leeds (who will fail miserably in the play-offs) that we can realistically sign that would improve our squad?

A few..maybe Winks, Gnonto and Walker-Peters off the top of my head. Dan James would probably be useful depth to the squad as well.

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Post by SouthLondonexile » Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:42 pm

I like the positive thinking here. Harwood-Bellis

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Post by Burnley1989 » Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:56 pm

These are the sort of conversations you have with your mate at work or in the pub, opposition fans will be taking screenshot ready to pounce. :lol:
Personally, I hate them as they generally bite you on the arse and theres a hell of a battle still to go yet.

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Post by Ptgclaret » Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:58 pm

Since we're being optimistic, Delap

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:46 pm

Ptgclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:58 pm
Since we're being optimistic, Delap
I think we were looking at Delap years ago, but he chose Stoke as his Dad was there. I never rated him and he did next to nothing for Stoke.

That said he has had a very good season. Someone will probably take a punt on him, I can't see him going back to the Championship.

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Post by blatherwickstattoos » Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:56 pm

Delap if we can afford what they want. But he’ll go onto a bigger club I reckon. Wouldn’t touch any of the others as proven not good enough.

We 💯 need a marquee signing, striker ideally. Left back cover too.

Maybe try and buy back sander from Fulham

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Post by Bacchus » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:18 pm

Let's be honest, any of Leeds' regular front 4 would improve our squad, most would get into our starting team right now. Plus a couple that they have on the bench. And their left back.

Not sure about the three coming down in terms of viable signings. Those who have stood out like Delap and Dibling will probably move to clubs with deeper pockets than ours. Maybe Ndidi would add a bit of power to midfield that we lacked last time

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Post by Goalkeeper » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:21 pm

So adding premier league failures to our squad will keep us up?
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Post by morninbob » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:31 pm

Bacchus wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:18 pm
Let's be honest, any of Leeds' regular front 4 would improve our squad, most would get into our starting team right now. Plus a couple that they have on the bench. And their left back.

Not sure about the three coming down in terms of viable signings. Those who have stood out like Delap and Dibling will probably move to clubs with deeper pockets than ours. Maybe Ndidi would add a bit of power to midfield that we lacked last time
Solomon is only on loan, Aaronson over brownhill, really ? Piroe isn't a 9 and James isn't good enough.

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Post by pureclaret » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:39 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:13 pm
IF.
Who does he play for ?

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Post by bfcmik » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:47 pm

Goalkeeper wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:21 pm
So adding premier league failures to our squad will keep us up?
You mean like adding Championship failures such as Heaton, Pope and JBG did over the years? Many a player from a 'failing PL team' has gone on to great success at other clubs - Wilson Odobert, for example, was relegated with a failed PL team last season but scored a couple of goals in a Europa League game this week.

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Post by bfcmik » Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:54 pm

Goalkeeper wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:21 pm
So adding premier league failures to our squad will keep us up?
You mean like adding Championship failures such as Heaton, Pope and JBG did over the years? Many a player from a 'failing PL team' has gone on to great success at other clubs - Wilson Odobert, for example, was relegated with a failed PL team last season but scored a couple of goals in a Europa League game this week.

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Post by Stonehouse » Mon Mar 17, 2025 6:23 pm

Goalkeeper wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:21 pm
So adding premier league failures to our squad will keep us up?
Mee ,Berge ,Collins ,McNeil and Wood didnt do too bad.

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Post by Stonehouse » Mon Mar 17, 2025 6:25 pm

StuffyClaret wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:11 pm
Muric?
:
O’Shea anyone? :D

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Post by Bacchus » Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:45 pm

morninbob wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:31 pm
Solomon is only on loan, Aaronson over brownhill, really ? Piroe isn't a 9 and James isn't good enough.
I know Solomon is a loan, but so is Edwards if we're playing by those rules. Piroe has 15 goals this season, more than all of our strikers together. James has 10, more than all our wingers put together. Aaronson is a different profile to Brownhill, far more creative and also has a good few goals this season.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:52 pm

Here’s the list I would go for:

Southampton:
Tyler Dibling (very unlikely)
Walker Pieters

Ipswich:
Leif Davis
Omari Hutchinson

Leicester:
Ndidi
Soumare (had an under rated season in my opinion)

Sheffield:
Hamer
Burrows
I would also be tempted to take a risk on Souza or Campbell

Leeds:
Firpo has looked really good every time I have seen them.
Tanaka looks Leeds best player.

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Post by fidelcastro » Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:42 pm

pureclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:39 pm
Who does he play for ?
Hilarious :roll:

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:48 pm

None from a relegated club. With many they are too good for the Championship, not good enough for the PL. This will be O’Sheas third successive PL relegation and Ramsdales third, although I rate him higher.
What we still need is a goalscorer. We need to look abroad.

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Post by dougcollins » Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:11 pm

morninbob wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:31 pm
Solomon is only on loan, Aaronson over brownhill, really ? Piroe isn't a 9 and James isn't good enough.
Aaronson really isn't very good.

I work in Leeds and most of the DL fans wouldn't have him near.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:16 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:48 pm
None from a relegated club. With many they are too good for the Championship, not good enough for the PL. This will be O’Sheas third successive PL relegation and Ramsdales third, although I rate him higher.
What we still need is a goalscorer. We need to look abroad.
You are right about the goal scorer situation, I think foster has proven he’s more effective as a counter attacking striker in the prem but even so our entire forward line has been incredibly poor at goal scoring this season.

We need a striker and winger than can notch if we go up.

As good as Anthony has been recently his goal returns have been poor and we would be needing him to notch/assist similar levels in the prem as he has in the championship this season.

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:21 pm

Jens Cajuste has been Ipswich’s best player from what I’ve seen. Bit of an all rounder centre mid. On loan from Napoli, they had a purchase option of £10m if they stayed up. I think his performances might attract an established PL team though.

Someone mentioning Delap is funny, that lad is going for £30m+ and quite comfortably to one of the ‘big teams’. As for striker discussion, I’m keeping a close eye on Yousef Salech at Cardiff, him and Isidor the only two strikers I’ve been really impressed with this season, and his profile (tall & physical) comes in handy in the Prem.

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:30 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:21 pm
Jens Cajuste has been Ipswich’s best player from what I’ve seen. Bit of an all rounder centre mid. On loan from Napoli, they had a purchase option of £10m if they stayed up. I think his performances might attract an established PL team though.

Someone mentioning Delap is funny, that lad is going for £30m+ and quite comfortably to one of the ‘big teams’. As for striker discussion, I’m keeping a close eye on Yousef Salech at Cardiff, him and Isidor the only two strikers I’ve been really impressed with this season, and his profile (tall & physical) comes in handy in the Prem.
Do you think the club will buy from England for a striker? I just think the cost might rule that out. Got to imagine if that Salech keeps banging them in, Cardiff will be looking for 20m plus?

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Post by RVclaret » Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:43 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:30 pm
Do you think the club will buy from England for a striker? I just think the cost might rule that out. Got to imagine if that Salech keeps banging them in, Cardiff will be looking for 20m plus?
I’d like us to. I feel there’s less of a transition / shock. Delap has shown this season how having physicality & aggression gives you a good starting point at least, Adebayo the season before. I can’t see Cardiff being in the financial position to demand close to that, they might even go down yet!

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Post by Spijed » Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:48 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 8:48 pm
None from a relegated club. With many they are too good for the Championship, not good enough for the PL. This will be O’Sheas third successive PL relegation and Ramsdales third, although I rate him higher.
What we still need is a goalscorer. We need to look abroad.
Do you actually need to be good enough for the Prem, or just as players like Matt Lowton were, good enough for a team that in its entirety was good enough to compete at that level?

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:14 pm

Spijed wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:48 pm
Do you actually need to be good enough for the Prem, or just as players like Matt Lowton were, good enough for a team that in its entirety was good enough to compete at that level?
Think your dissing Lowton there. He was more than a good enough RB for a few seasons.
The more PL level players you have the better, surely?

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Post by NottsClaret » Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:16 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 9:43 pm
I’d like us to. I feel there’s less of a transition / shock. Delap has shown this season how having physicality & aggression gives you a good starting point at least, Adebayo the season before.
That was our biggest weakness last time and would be again. The Prem is getting like US sports now, where the biggest and best athletes are chosen, then they coach them to do whatever. Even in our all conquering promotion under Kompany, in that cup game against a crap Man Utd team, we played some nice stuff but were miles off it physically.

Laurent makes a positive difference for us in this league and he's nowhere near one of our best players, but he's a unit. The problem is, in that league, you need to find - and afford - several Josh Laurents who can also play. You watch some mid-table Prem games and think we wouldn't last two minutes against these.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:54 am

Harvey Barnes seems a bit part player
Harrison Reed Fulham
Alfie Doughty at Luton he won't fancy Div 1 next year
Brad Potts PNE useful cm
Dara O'Shea if we loose CJ or Steve

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Post by Tribesmen » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:00 am

Spend all the money on Mo Salah , 100 million may do it

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Post by ClaretLoup » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:31 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:54 am
Harvey Barnes seems a bit part player
Barnes started for the Mags in the Cup Final, he'll be on a massive whack.

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Post by Goliath » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:34 am

Presuming Trafford goes, Cooper from Sheff Utd would be a no brainer if we want to spend that much on another keeper.

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:39 am

Watching Joellinton on Sunday, transformed from a poor CF to a dynamic midfielder, could we do the same with Lyle.
He's fast, has a good touch (when he isn't shooting), holds the ball up well and protects it, links play..........

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Post by Spijed » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:19 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:16 am
That was our biggest weakness last time and would be again. The Prem is getting like US sports now, where the biggest and best athletes are chosen, then they coach them to do whatever. Even in our all conquering promotion under Kompany, in that cup game against a crap Man Utd team, we played some nice stuff but were miles off it physically.

Laurent makes a positive difference for us in this league and he's nowhere near one of our best players, but he's a unit. The problem is, in that league, you need to find - and afford - several Josh Laurents who can also play. You watch some mid-table Prem games and think we wouldn't last two minutes against these.
I still think there's a place for small players if they have the ability.

I can't imagine the likes of Paul Scholes would struggle today even if faced with bigger players. It's just that Josh Cullen doesn't have Premier league ability

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Post by Rileybobs » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:38 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:39 am
Watching Joellinton on Sunday, transformed from a poor CF to a dynamic midfielder, could we do the same with Lyle.
He's fast, has a good touch (when he isn't shooting), holds the ball up well and protects it, links play..........
Lyle Foster?

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Post by blatherwickstattoos » Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:56 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 11:39 am
Watching Joellinton on Sunday, transformed from a poor CF to a dynamic midfielder, could we do the same with Lyle.
He's fast, has a good touch (when he isn't shooting), holds the ball up well and protects it, links play..........
No

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Post by Colburn_Claret » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:51 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:38 pm
Lyle Foster?
It was tongue in cheek.

IF we go up we will need some physicality in midfield.
Brownhill, Cullen and Hannibal all offer the skills but not the physicality. Laurent the physicality but not sure the step up would be too great.

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Post by dougcollins » Tue Mar 18, 2025 2:58 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 10:54 am
Harvey Barnes seems a bit part player
Born in Burnley, does that qualify us for a discount?

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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:27 pm

Don't attack me here, but I quite the look of the big lad upfront for Blackburn..he can score goals, he's a.powerful player,.I think he's decent with his feet for a big unit and certainly an option if we are chasing equalisers or even winning goals..

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Post by HurstGrangeClaret » Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:55 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:56 pm
These are the sort of conversations you have with your mate at work or in the pub, opposition fans will be taking screenshot ready to pounce. :lol:
Personally, I hate them as they generally bite you on the arse and theres a hell of a battle still to go yet.
I also hate threads like this when you think how tight it is at the top and how we’re still not in an automatic spot.
Everything to play for,including the play-off lottery!

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Post by dougcollins » Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:35 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 4:27 pm
Don't attack me here, but I quite the look of the big lad upfront for Blackburn..he can score goals, he's a.powerful player,.I think he's decent with his feet for a big unit and certainly an option if we are chasing equalisers or even winning goals..
He was rubbish in the games against us.

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Post by Andreshotboots » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:27 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Tue Mar 18, 2025 6:35 pm
He was rubbish in the games against us.
He was, but he hasn't been since in a poor side, and he offers something totally different. There's a definite shift, even at the top level now to a return of the big man..

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Post by scouseclaret » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:38 pm

brexit wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 12:51 pm
Are there any players from the three teams coming down or Leeds (who will fail miserably in the play-offs) that we can realistically sign that would improve our squad?
Well we’ll almost certainly be needing to replace Trafford, so Meslier…???

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Post by Shaggy » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:39 pm

I think we should target Daizen Meida at Celtic. Lightening fast and has energy to burn, plus can play across all the front positions.

Wouldn’t cost that much and won’t be on a high wage either.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Mar 18, 2025 7:50 pm

Ptgclaret wrote:
Mon Mar 17, 2025 2:58 pm
Since we're being optimistic, Delap
That ship has sailed!..........He's going to a top team.

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