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The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by aggi » Fri May 16, 2025 6:24 pm

Seems that's what the new Everton ground will be called.

They're a law firm founded in Liverpool, surprised they have the money for it

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by kentonclaret » Fri May 16, 2025 6:31 pm

Surprised it’s not been named the David Dickinson Stadium. I’m sure it’s a “real bobby-dazzler” and certainly isn’t “as cheap as chips”.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by RVclaret » Fri May 16, 2025 6:33 pm

What a horrendous stadium name.
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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri May 16, 2025 6:36 pm

aggi wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 6:24 pm
Seems that's what the new Everton ground will be called.

They're a law firm founded in Liverpool, surprised they have the money for it
There must be a fair bit of money to be made as a solicitor in Liverpool.
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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Pickles » Fri May 16, 2025 6:41 pm

Sounds the sponsors of the half-time raffle at a Sunday league ground.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Tribesmen » Fri May 16, 2025 6:42 pm

No doubt everyone will call it the HD

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by MrTopTier » Fri May 16, 2025 6:46 pm

Getting £10million a year apparently.

You’re get dicked at the Dickinson. Song for both home and away fans!!

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by ChrisG » Fri May 16, 2025 8:43 pm

I used to work for Hill Dickinson almost 20 years ago. They are a big firm, and have their roots in marine law, which fits with their location.

They've also sponsored Lancs CCC for many years.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by mikeS » Fri May 16, 2025 8:51 pm

Best name by a mile is Boltons.
Brilliant whoever named it that

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Claretitus » Fri May 16, 2025 9:06 pm

mikeS wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 8:51 pm
Best name by a mile is Boltons.
Brilliant whoever named it that
:lol: :lol: Unlucky at the Tough Sheet Stadium.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Fri May 16, 2025 9:12 pm

£10m a year can go towards our compensation I suppose :lol:

But how dehumanising can it get? Goodison, like Anfield and Turf Moor, is so iconic that it could never be renamed for a few pieces of silver.

Now, it feels soulless. Next they will be renaming the whole football club itself.

So sad. But it is the modern world, chasing a quick buck and a competitive advantage. It won’t lead us anywhere good, nothing surer.
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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Claret Till I Die » Fri May 16, 2025 9:15 pm

Wimpy Brasshorn Fart
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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by theduke » Fri May 16, 2025 9:22 pm

3rd biggest naming rights deal in Europe

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by JohnMcGreal » Fri May 16, 2025 9:35 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 9:12 pm
£10m a year can go towards our compensation I suppose :lol:

But how dehumanising can it get? Goodison, like Anfield and Turf Moor, is so iconic that it could never be renamed for a few pieces of silver.

Now, it feels soulless. Next they will be renaming the whole football club itself.

So sad. But it is the modern world, chasing a quick buck and a competitive advantage. It won’t lead us anywhere good, nothing surer.
Dehumanising? Come on, Crosspool.

I agree that it's a shame in a way, but time moves on and a rickety old ground like Goodison is no longer fit for purpose.

Stadium sponsorship is big money and it's probably better to go down that route with a new ground rather than selling the rights to an old ground.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by CoolClaret » Fri May 16, 2025 9:35 pm

How sh1te is late-stage capitalism?

"The Hill Dickinson stadium", crikey.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Tufty » Fri May 16, 2025 9:45 pm

Could've been worse.....The Armitage Shanks Stadium for example.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Wokingclaret » Fri May 16, 2025 10:04 pm

Shame

I liked Bramley Moore Dock

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Claretitus » Fri May 16, 2025 10:10 pm

Tufty wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 9:45 pm
Could've been worse.....The Armitage Shanks Stadium for example.
Yeah. A bit J Arthur Rank , that.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Fri May 16, 2025 10:17 pm

JohnMcGreal wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 9:35 pm
Dehumanising? Come on, Crosspool.

I agree that it's a shame in a way, but time moves on and a rickety old ground like Goodison is no longer fit for purpose.

Stadium sponsorship is big money and it's probably better to go down that route with a new ground rather than selling the rights to an old ground.
Time moves on is a statement of the obvious. But things don’t have to change for the worse. Nor do clubs have to chase money for the expense of their soul, for a sum that doesn’t really shift the competitive dial.

The “product” is an intangible glue that binds together that local community like a tribe. When that starts disappearing, the product suffers, whether they know it or not. Out of town stadiums have the same impact as corporate stadium names, as did sponsorship on shirts becoming ever more blatant, as did too many mercenary players. Soon, it becomes like going to the theatre, just a night out, not a passion.

Not everyone sees it the same way, I accept that, I just find it sad.
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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by NewClaret » Sat May 17, 2025 12:11 am

theduke wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 9:22 pm
3rd biggest naming rights deal in Europe
What’s the first and second worth, our resident Evertonian?

Not that it really matters, going from the famous Goodison Park to a shiny bowl and renaming it after a tiny law firm is grim whatever pounds it’s bringing in.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by NewClaret » Sat May 17, 2025 12:15 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 10:17 pm
Time moves on is a statement of the obvious. But things don’t have to change for the worse. Nor do clubs have to chase money for the expense of their soul, for a sum that doesn’t really shift the competitive dial.

The “product” is an intangible glue that binds together that local community like a tribe. When that starts disappearing, the product suffers, whether they know it or not. Out of town stadiums have the same impact as corporate stadium names, as did sponsorship on shirts becoming ever more blatant, as did too many mercenary players. Soon, it becomes like going to the theatre, just a night out, not a passion.

Not everyone sees it the same way, I accept that, I just find it sad.
Completely agree.

Those old stadiums amongst the hard core supporters in the terraced houses around the stadium are (or were) fantastic. I’m glad Goodison is staying for that reason, but the soul of the club is ripped out by this move. Just as it was at West Ham when they left Upton Park, Spurs when they demolished White Hart Lane, etc.

But naming it after a small law firm is salt in the wounds.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Wile E Coyote » Sat May 17, 2025 12:28 am

Livingston was the Toni Macaroni stadium for a while, comedy name.
As are all cheapskate stand or ground sponsored name changes.
We arent much better in the stupidity stakes.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Rileybobs » Sat May 17, 2025 1:19 am

theduke wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 9:22 pm
3rd biggest naming rights deal in Europe
You’ll never sing that.
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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by JohnMcGreal » Sat May 17, 2025 8:36 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 10:17 pm
Time moves on is a statement of the obvious. But things don’t have to change for the worse. Nor do clubs have to chase money for the expense of their soul, for a sum that doesn’t really shift the competitive dial.

The “product” is an intangible glue that binds together that local community like a tribe. When that starts disappearing, the product suffers, whether they know it or not. Out of town stadiums have the same impact as corporate stadium names, as did sponsorship on shirts becoming ever more blatant, as did too many mercenary players. Soon, it becomes like going to the theatre, just a night out, not a passion.

Not everyone sees it the same way, I accept that, I just find it sad.
You could argue it's been going that way for decades and the main reason for that is rising ticket prices, pricing a lot of working class people out of the game. Not necessarily anything to do with new stadiums. Plenty of people are getting ripped off just fine in old ones, too.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Claret Till I Die » Sat May 17, 2025 10:15 am

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Row x » Sat May 17, 2025 11:18 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 10:17 pm
Time moves on is a statement of the obvious. But things don’t have to change for the worse. Nor do clubs have to chase money for the expense of their soul, for a sum that doesn’t really shift the competitive dial.

The “product” is an intangible glue that binds together that local community like a tribe. When that starts disappearing, the product suffers, whether they know it or not. Out of town stadiums have the same impact as corporate stadium names, as did sponsorship on shirts becoming ever more blatant, as did too many mercenary players. Soon, it becomes like going to the theatre, just a night out, not a passion.

Not everyone sees it the same way, I accept that, I just find it sad.
Season tickets at Everton have flown off the shelf
They had staggered days for you to pick your seat
No passion lost there

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Paul Waine » Sat May 17, 2025 4:12 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 12:11 am
What’s the first and second worth, our resident Evertonian?

Not that it really matters, going from the famous Goodison Park to a shiny bowl and renaming it after a tiny law firm is grim whatever pounds it’s bringing in.
Hi New, Hill Dickinson is not a tiny law firm. 200 partners, 1,000 staff. As already posted, started out in marine law - we all know Liverpool was a very big shipping centre - and now covers a lot more commercial law. Senior partners are reported to earn over £1 million a year.

Report I've read says the money is a lot less than £10 million, closer to £6 million, including add-ons.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Rowls » Sat May 17, 2025 4:15 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 9:35 pm
late-stage capitalism
:lol:

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Post by RHansburyEsq » Sat May 17, 2025 10:03 pm

A 200 partner law firm with £150 million turnover is not tiny, but as commercial law firms go they are mid-tier at best even in the UK. If it as much as people are saying, it is a very bold move by them.

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Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Sat May 17, 2025 10:42 pm

Things like this blow my mind, does having your name on a stadium really bring you well in excess of £6m-£10m a year on top of what you would have made?

Something like that wouldn't influence me to buy a product if a competitor of the same standing was even slightly cheaper.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by ChrisG » Sun May 18, 2025 8:57 am

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 10:42 pm
Things like this blow my mind, does having your name on a stadium really bring you well in excess of £6m-£10m a year on top of what you would have made?

Something like that wouldn't influence me to buy a product if a competitor of the same standing was even slightly cheaper.
It's not the kind of law firm that you'd go to for a personal dispute, so I'm guessing the idea is to get more global exposure and try and gain more high profile corporate clients. It's a bold move mind.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Leon_C » Sun May 18, 2025 10:34 am

mikeS wrote:
Fri May 16, 2025 8:51 pm
Best name by a mile is Boltons.
Brilliant whoever named it that
It is a thing of legend 😁

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Leon_C » Sun May 18, 2025 10:46 am

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:
Sat May 17, 2025 10:42 pm
Things like this blow my mind, does having your name on a stadium really bring you well in excess of £6m-£10m a year on top of what you would have made?

Something like that wouldn't influence me to buy a product if a competitor of the same standing was even slightly cheaper.
If a brand's long-term strategy involves gaining greater global recognition, then this type of thing can be powerful.

If your life/career doesn't involve hiring (or influencing the procurement of) a large corporate law firm, then it would have little impact for you, personally.

More broadly, on the matter of cost, the idea of 'building a brand' through recognition, is understood to bolster trust - allowing the brand to charge more for its wares.

It's a surprising association for me, indeed - and the name hardly rolls off the tongue (like "The Emirates" or "The Etihad").
I can understand why Evertonians might be slightly disappointed.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by Alanstevensonsgloves » Sun May 18, 2025 2:58 pm

Everton’s new ground has been named the Hill Dickinson stadium, after attracting sponsorship from a local legal firm.

Tickets next season are on a 'no win, no fee' basis.

:D

Nicked from the BBC website....

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by k90bfc » Sun May 18, 2025 6:54 pm

Does not matter what it is called the History and feeling of Goodison gone for ever,on match days will never feel the same,for the Fans,and pubs and clubs,with the feeling of matchday vibes,thankful,we have Our beloved Turf Moor,UTC.

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Re: The Hill Dickinson Stadium

Post by dibraidio » Sun May 18, 2025 7:21 pm

They can call it hickory dickory dock for all I care.

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