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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ClaretPete001 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:24 pm

Commy wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:10 pm
About -£33m.
You would think ...not enough....!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:28 pm

If you remove Humphreys and Flemming from that, too, it’s around £13m (both were guaranteed to sign regardless of promotion and should really be on ‘last seasons’ spend).

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:30 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:46 pm
Sunderland also signing striker Marc Guiu too: https://x.com/SAFCsource/status/1950535368165445828
That’s not strictly accurate based on the link you have provided, is it?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:31 pm

Is Micheal Mellon fit and ready to become a first team squad member

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by nig1954 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:39 pm

Based on the performances I saw whilst he was on loan at Bradford City, he’s far from ready. Prem defenders would outmuscle him all of the time. He doesn’t have the physicality or athleticism required and his anticipation isn’t the best. Prem goal scorers need pace, alertness and an eye for goal and at the moment Mellon doesn’t fit into any of those categories so I don’t envisage he’ll be in SP’s plans at present

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by kenyon6923 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:47 pm

Don't fall for past mistakes - us and Sunderland (who finished 8 WINS behind the top 2 in the championship !!!!) are sitting ducks because of the rules of the game unfortunately, slight increase of odds for Leeds, but still the odds for all 3 returning straight back down wont be huge.

Iffy teams over the years like Wolves, Forest, Palace etc etc have needed the last 2 seasons 29 and 26 points to finish 4th bottom or above. Yeah we can expect teams like Brentford and Forest maybe not to do as well as last season and maybe 1-2 other clubs but they would need to totally collapse not to get 29 points.

The team will give their all so just enjoy the ride.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:48 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:30 pm
That’s not strictly accurate based on the link you have provided, is it?
Leading the race atm, and trying to sign him. My point was they are still spending on quality additions.

I found this table interesting. They consider Isidor their third string Striker, and he is better than anything we have: https://x.com/rwmdawson/status/19504965 ... O7e5qvffGA

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by JarrowClaret » Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:55 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:48 pm
Leading the race atm, and trying to sign him. My point was they are still spending on quality additions.

I found this table interesting. They consider Isidor their third string Striker, and he is better than anything we have: https://x.com/rwmdawson/status/19504965 ... O7e5qvffGA
Not at penalties he isn’t ha ha
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by agreenwood » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:04 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:48 pm
Leading the race atm, and trying to sign him. My point was they are still spending on quality additions.

I found this table interesting. They consider Isidor their third string Striker, and he is better than anything we have: https://x.com/rwmdawson/status/19504965 ... O7e5qvffGA
Scored the same amount of league goals as Flemming last season.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:29 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:48 pm
Leading the race atm, and trying to sign him. My point was they are still spending on quality additions.

I found this table interesting. They consider Isidor their third string Striker, and he is better than anything we have: https://x.com/rwmdawson/status/19504965 ... O7e5qvffGA
That table looks all well and good on paper, but as we saw 2 years ago, the reality is you can’t just chuck 8/9+ new players into the starting 11, expecting them to gel straight away and not disrupt the morale of those that did the hard yards last year.

There’s a balance to be had, and I feel Sunderland and their fans are going to have a bit of a rude awakening when the season starts, much like we did.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goliath » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:30 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:29 pm
That table looks all well and good on paper, but as we saw 2 years ago, the reality is you can’t just chuck 8/9+ new players into the starting 11, expecting them to gel straight away and not disrupt the morale of those that did the hard yards last year.

There’s a balance to be had, and I feel Sunderland and their fans are going to have a bit of a rude awakening when the season starts, much like we did.
This is why us losing 3 main players is a big blow for us. Even if we sign good replacements, they need time to settle and find their role within the team.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by northernpowerhouse » Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:49 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 2:48 pm
I found this table interesting. They consider Isidor their third string Striker, and he is better than anything we have: https://x.com/rwmdawson/status/19504965 ... O7e5qvffGA
Their starting striker looks crap though, I'd take Fleming or Foster over him.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by martin_p » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:01 pm

Any more Sunderland news?
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Mattster » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:02 pm

Kone from Wycombe would apparently only take around £5m to sign. I'd genuinely say take him and spend the rest of the Trafford money on 2 midfielders. Kone has the physicality to step up to the Prem IMO, looking at the next Watkins/Toney IMO.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:04 pm

northernpowerhouse wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 3:49 pm
Their starting striker looks crap though, I'd take Fleming or Foster over him.
Foster? Really? How many did he score last season?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goliath » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:05 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:02 pm
Kone from Wycombe would apparently only take around £5m to sign. I'd genuinely say take him and spend the rest of the Trafford money on 2 midfielders. Kone has the physicality to step up to the Prem IMO, looking at the next Watkins/Toney IMO.
Bit of a risk that one. Not sure we have the funds to be taking 5 million pound gambles this summer. Would have been a worth it if we weren't saddled with debt and just lost 3 players who we need to replace. Every penny should be going on ready made first team players imo.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:13 pm

We need to concentrate on signing a Premier league ready cm.I didn't feel AP needed the distraction of building the brand in Spain as the job at Burnley needs 100% focus

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Mattster » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:14 pm

Any upgrade on Flemming/Foster is going to take £20m+. If we've only got the Trafford money to spend then we're going to have to get creative. Midfield is more of a pressing need than a striker IMO.

Who could we sign at striker that is ready made and wouldn't take almost all of the budget?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:15 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:05 pm
Bit of a risk that one. Not sure we have the funds to be taking 5 million pound gambles this summer. Would have been a worth it if we weren't saddled with debt and just lost 3 players who we need to replace. Every penny should be going on ready made first team players imo.
Isn’t there risk involved with every transfer though, whether that’s a 5m risk from a league one striker or a 15m risk on a Belgium league striker.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:16 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:14 pm
Any upgrade on Flemming/Foster is going to take £20m+. If we've only got the Trafford money to spend then we're going to have to get creative. Midfield is more of a pressing need than a striker IMO.

Who could we sign at striker that is ready made and wouldn't take almost all of the budget?
What makes you think we only have the Trafford money to spend?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Mattster » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:23 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:16 pm
What makes you think we only have the Trafford money to spend?
All our transfer movements dying down whilst the Trafford sale dragged on suggests it's most of, if not all, our remaining budget.

IMO we need two centre midfielders, a GK and a striker. I'd want the majority of the budget to go the midfield. An experienced but cheaper GK plus a gamble like Kone would allow for that.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:29 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:23 pm
All our transfer movements dying down whilst the Trafford sale dragged on suggests it's most of, if not all, our remaining budget.

IMO we need two centre midfielders, a GK and a striker. I'd want the majority of the budget to go the midfield. An experienced but cheaper GK plus a gamble like Kone would allow for that.
Was it not more a case of we needed to make sure we were 20m in profit at the end of this PSR cycle, which comes to an end tomorrow.

The cycle starts again on 1st August which gives us more flexibility to do deals.

I would say cm and striker should be bulk of the budget but then I agree we need another cm to. Try and get an experienced keeper in a cheaper deal and I would even say an experienced centre half who has more pace than Worrall.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:33 pm

Sheff U and now Ipswich apparently after McBurnie who is a free agent.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Pearcey » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:36 pm

martin_p wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:01 pm
Any more Sunderland news?
It’s the only reason I look. Been a quiet few minutes. :(
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:39 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:33 pm
Sheff U and now Ipswich apparently after McBurnie who is a free agent.

If McBurnie was offering to pay us so he could play he still wouldn't be worth it
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:40 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:36 pm
It’s the only reason I look. Been a quiet few minutes. :(

We have 1 club every season that some become jealous of, seems Sunderland is this years one

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:46 pm

I’m going to predict that we loan Colyer from United as one central midfielder and buy another.

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Re: Summer transfer window

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:51 pm

I really hope that you guys who are suggesting that we need a new PSR cycle on August 1 to add the final few players we need prove to be correct.

I know nothing about how it works, and if I did, much of it would go over my head. Fingers crossed you’ve called it right.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:58 pm

**** me any actual Burnley news?
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:21 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:14 pm
Any upgrade on Flemming/Foster is going to take £20m+. If we've only got the Trafford money to spend then we're going to have to get creative. Midfield is more of a pressing need than a striker IMO.

Who could we sign at striker that is ready made and wouldn't take almost all of the budget?
Giovanni Simeone £6m
Luka Jovic Free

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Big Vinny K » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:22 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:51 pm
I really hope that you guys who are suggesting that we need a new PSR cycle on August 1 to add the final few players we need prove to be correct.

I know nothing about how it works, and if I did, much of it would go over my head. Fingers crossed you’ve called it right.
Good chance that is correct as it does work in 3 year cycles.
We do need to hit a certain level of profit number in year 3 for us to avoid a PSR breach and that year end finishes tomorrow. As fans we have no idea really what last years numbers are going to be as its virtually impossible for any of us to get an accurate figure on last years wage bill which will obviously be key to our profit number. But for those running the club and our finances they will know exactly what profit number we need to hit to avoid the PSR breach so they will have been managing our transfer spend and wages accordingly to achieve this.

Does not necessarily mean we are waiting for the 1st August and delaying transfer spend and signings to achieve this as we could be well within where we need to and there may be just the usual delays and obstacles in trying to sign players. But if 2 or 3 signings happen next week then I’d say there’s a good chance we did hold these back for PSR.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by KRBFC » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:21 pm
Giovanni Simeone £6m
Luka Jovic Free
We also could’ve had Tammy Abraham for £13m, Morata set to move on loan to Como.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:28 pm

Noticed that Shira on “X” posted saying we are interested in that Andy Diouf.

Rehashed perhaps?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Taffy on the wing » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:40 pm

....................ALL IS DROSS!!!!!..................

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:41 pm

I’m off to the Sunderland board to read up on the Burnley news.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ollieclarets8 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:44 pm

Seems like Sunderland is a lot of people's second team this season.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ecc » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:47 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:27 pm
We also could’ve had Tammy Abraham for £13m, Morata set to move on loan to Como.
Morata in valiant attempt to clock up a record number of transfers in football history.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by martin_p » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:48 pm

ollieclarets8 wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:44 pm
Seems like Sunderland is a lot of people's second team this season.
Second?
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:49 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:21 pm
Giovanni Simeone £6m
Luka Jovic Free
I mentioned jovic early on in this thread he would be a good free option. Simeone is a good player.

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Re: Summer transfer window

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:54 pm

If some of you spent as much time searching for and posting the Burnley news you’re so desperate to see rather than complaining about Sunderland posts, this thread might head in the direction you want it to. :lol:

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by boyyanno » Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 5:51 pm
Link to another midfielder

https://x.com/glongari/status/195058856 ... cYMQnkX92A
Was linked to us earlier in the season, he's one I'd be really keen on to be fair.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:05 pm

seems some struggle with a "summer transfer window" thread that has news about the "summer transfer window"
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by mkmel » Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:06 pm

Cap wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 4:50 pm
https://x.com/Oliveira32Pablo/status/19 ... U268g&s=19
Sunderland after Mount on loan
It also says we are interested in a loan for Mount

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:07 pm

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:03 pm
Was linked to us earlier in the season, he's one I'd be really keen on to be fair.
Don’t know much about him.

But after reading about him and his style it certainly seems to fit the type of the player we are looking for

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:08 pm

As a side note has anyone else seen that Sheff weds are apparently playing us in a friendly tomorrow (that is at risk of being cancelled because they can’t pay the players)

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:09 pm

mkmel wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:06 pm
It also says we are interested in a loan for Mount
Please god no

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by JR1882 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:11 pm

mkmel wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:06 pm
It also says we are interested in a loan for Mount
He’s on 250k a week so I’d imagine that will take some doing. Can’t imagine United will be willing to cover too much in their current predicament.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:23 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Wed Jul 30, 2025 6:11 pm
He’s on 250k a week so I’d imagine that will take some doing. Can’t imagine United will be willing to cover too much in their current predicament.
Tbf this is exactly the kind of deal I can imagine United are desperate for.

Loan deal where we pay 30-40% of his wages. That 30-40% allows them to offer a new striker the wages they want.

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